2012/13 Stock Watch Discussion

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*BookmarkLockedFalling Kevin Love (89)
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Walt Frazier 88 1,357 by Walt Frazier
Apr 12, 2018 11:32:24 GMT
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*BookmarkLockedFalling Marc Gasol/Kawhi Leonard/other players
Otis Smith 3 245 by Otis Smith
Jul 13, 2013 7:36:54 GMT
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*BookmarkLockedFalling Unfinished Rating Changes
Walt Frazier 4 255 by Walt Frazier
Jun 19, 2013 3:19:54 GMT
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*BookmarkLockedFalling Omer Asik
Deleted 11 316 by Walt Frazier
Jun 19, 2013 3:00:31 GMT
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*BookmarkLockedFalling Tim Duncan
Rubén Magnano 12 264 by Kevin Ware
Jun 19, 2013 2:16:08 GMT
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*BookmarkLockedFalling Big Man Ratings
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Josh Barber 33 676 by Chris Mullin
Jun 18, 2013 18:08:45 GMT
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*BookmarkLockedFalling Quincy Pondexter
Greg Schiano 9 219 by Walt Frazier
Jun 18, 2013 17:31:39 GMT
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*BookmarkLockedFalling Zach Randolph
Bryan Colangelo 2 221 by Walt Frazier
Jun 18, 2013 17:28:42 GMT
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*BookmarkLockedFalling Patrick Patterson
Magic Johnson 11 364 by Walt Frazier
Jun 18, 2013 17:21:31 GMT
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*BookmarkLockedFalling Eric Bledsoe
Deleted 24 393 by Deleted
Jun 18, 2013 16:50:11 GMT
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*BookmarkLockedFalling DeMar DeRozan
Dominique Wilkins 11 324 by Walt Frazier
Jun 18, 2013 16:23:13 GMT
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*BookmarkLockedFalling Rajon Rondo
Ian Noble 18 412 by Walt Frazier
Jun 18, 2013 15:20:55 GMT
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*BookmarkLockedFalling Kosta Koufos
Deleted 6 247 by Walt Frazier
Jun 17, 2013 18:37:09 GMT
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*BookmarkLockedFalling LAL bigs (Asik/Randolph/Vucevic)
Magic Johnson 2 234 by Blake Bowman
Jun 16, 2013 20:07:10 GMT
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*BookmarkLockedFalling LeBron James
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Shaquille O'Neal 46 783 by Deleted
Jun 16, 2013 1:34:07 GMT
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*BookmarkLockedFalling Lance Stephenson
Shaquille O'Neal 9 224 by Shaquille O'Neal
Jun 8, 2013 10:52:56 GMT
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*BookmarkLockedFalling Stephen Curry
Chris Mullin 17 282 by Josh Barber
May 22, 2013 17:28:18 GMT
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*BookmarkLockedFalling Carmelo Anthony
Ian Noble 3 172 by Danny Longley
May 15, 2013 10:54:00 GMT
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*BookmarkLockedFalling Grizzlies Updated Ratings Request
Greg Schiano 2 270 by Greg Schiano
Apr 25, 2013 16:57:40 GMT
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*BookmarkLockedFalling Avery Bradley
Ian Noble 4 229 by Ian Noble
Mar 16, 2013 9:02:33 GMT
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*BookmarkLockedFalling Rudy Gay
Clyde Drexler 9 258 by Walt Frazier
Feb 16, 2013 4:37:29 GMT
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*BookmarkLockedFalling Combined Stockwatch Thread
Alex English 6 277 by Walt Frazier
Feb 15, 2013 3:28:44 GMT
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*BookmarkLockedFalling Earl Clark
Rubén Magnano 12 299 by Otis Smith
Jan 27, 2013 22:50:25 GMT
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*BookmarkLockedFalling All-Star Reserves/Rating Increases
Deleted 8 282 by Ian Noble
Jan 26, 2013 10:27:45 GMT
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*BookmarkLockedFalling Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
Blake Bowman 7 203 by Walt Frazier
Jan 26, 2013 0:00:16 GMT
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*BookmarkLockedFalling Most overrated/underrated
Rubén Magnano 1 204 by Rubén Magnano
Jan 25, 2013 7:58:34 GMT
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*BookmarkLockedFalling Paul George
Alex English 22 418 by Rubén Magnano
Jan 25, 2013 2:32:38 GMT
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*BookmarkLockedFalling Former All-Stars/Name Players
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Danny Longley 46 1,332 by Rubén Magnano
Jan 23, 2013 7:04:57 GMT
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*BookmarkLockedFalling Power Forwards
Walt Frazier 15 319 by Magic Johnson
Jan 23, 2013 6:52:45 GMT
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*BookmarkLockedFalling Jrue Holiday
Otis Smith 6 298 by Alex English
Jan 22, 2013 1:03:09 GMT

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Bryan Colangelo: posting players tmr! just out for dinner tonight Oct 21, 2021 22:17:05 GMT
Jerry West: Bjelica, Thad Young and DAJ are the next players I'm trying to finish negotiations Oct 21, 2021 20:57:58 GMT
Tom Izzo: Looking to make some trades. Everybody except Giannis and Randle available Oct 20, 2021 10:02:08 GMT
Jerry West: Thad Young, Millsap and Favors are the next guys to get signed, get your offers in Oct 19, 2021 17:47:56 GMT
Kareem Abdul-Jabbar: Looking to trade 2 1sts round picks for player/s in their rookie contracts. ^^ Oct 19, 2021 2:30:39 GMT
Bryan Colangelo: get offers for Taurean Prince Oct 19, 2021 2:15:38 GMT
James Kay: If you're not a max player, there's no reason you wouldn't want to do it Oct 19, 2021 1:54:11 GMT
Jeremiah Hill: I was just point it out to try and get people to notice we're doing it a bit more often than average. Also not trying to be argumentative. Oct 19, 2021 1:50:19 GMT
Hanamichi Sakuragi: Just a byproduct of our market. That will be hard to control. Oct 19, 2021 1:45:00 GMT
Walt Frazier: In here, we haven't needed to use our cap (many of us) so there are a lot of teams with a bunch of money now, who smartly plan to use more of it now and less of it later, keeping themselves flexible and active for the next round of FA Oct 19, 2021 1:31:38 GMT
Walt Frazier: using BR's and other Exceptions to sign & keep players. Oct 19, 2021 1:31:04 GMT
Walt Frazier: I think this is arguably, potentially, tied to us not having a cap floor, too. Real-life teams almost always go with raises b/c they have less money now, and theoretically more in the future due to cap raises or just getting themselves over the cap and Oct 19, 2021 1:30:56 GMT
Walt Frazier: I have experienced plenty of offers as a PA that began as declining (say 10-9.5-9-8.5 for $37M total) but then the overall price went up to like $50M so they ended up raising the first year a bit and adding raises instead of decline. Oct 19, 2021 1:23:32 GMT
Walt Frazier: to use raises or keep it flat in order to remain competitive in the negotiations, they'll do it. But if not, we have no real reason to not do the decline. Oct 19, 2021 1:21:27 GMT
Walt Frazier: I do think the players have no reason to NOT want more money earlier. AND, if the market for a player ends at a point where the team with cap space has room to start them high and then go down, so be it. If the market is hotter and the team ends up needing Oct 19, 2021 1:21:09 GMT
Walt Frazier: Not being argumentative, but how many of those 360 have Rookie-scale contracts which are automatically set on the rising scale? Roughly, at the very least, the 30 1st round picks in each year, for 4 years currently... so that's 120 or so. Oct 19, 2021 1:20:27 GMT
Jeremiah Hill: That's 11 guys total out of 360 (12 guys per team). Oct 19, 2021 0:42:44 GMT
Jeremiah Hill: Found Barton, Vucevic, Buddy, Ross, Hardaway, Brooks, a Plumlee and some guy named Gabriel Deck with declining option. Oct 19, 2021 0:42:09 GMT
Jeremiah Hill: 2 on the Cavs in Love and Cedi. That's 3 out of 16 top payrolls so far. Oct 18, 2021 23:57:21 GMT
Jeremiah Hill: James I just went through the 10 highest payroll teams on Hoopshype and found a total of 1 declining contract in Al Horford. It's not common. Oct 18, 2021 23:54:36 GMT
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