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Post by Alex English on Feb 7, 2013 21:31:27 GMT
These threads are really starting to pile up. I figure it would be easier to deal with if it was all in one place. I know Ian does a lot of work around here but I think this whole section is getting pretty big and it needs to be dealt with. I would support skipping sims for a few days so Ian can spend time on this instead. I don't know how Ian or other people feel about it, just a thought.
So here is the list of unresolved threads:
73 Nikola Pekovic -> 78.5, 78, 78, 78, 78, 78, 77
73 Nikola Vucevic -> 79.5, 78, 77.5, 75.5
79 Paul George -> 84, 84, 83, 83, 80.5
78 Jrue Holiday -> 83.5, 83, 83, 83, 83, 83, 82
82 David Lee -> 87.5, 85.5, 85.5
78 Nicolas Batum -> 84.5, 83, 82.5, 82.5, 82
71 Jeff Teague -> 80, 79, 79, 79, 78
73 Greivis Vasquez -> 80.5, 80, 79.5, 77, 77, 77, 74
68 Tiago Splitter -> 76, 76, 75.5, 75, 75, 74, 73.5
77 Goran Dragic -> 84, 82.5, 82, 82, 81.5, 81, 81, 81, 80.5, 80
79 Ty Lawson -> 83.5, 83, 83, 83, 83, 83, 82, 81
72 Omer Asik -> 80, 79, 78, 78, 78, 77.5, 77
69 Patrick Paterson -> 75, 75, 75, 75, 73
80 Serge Ibaka -> 85, 83, 83, 82.5, 81.5, 80, 80
78 Marcin Gortat -> 84, 82, 82, 82, 82, 81.5, 81, 81, 81, 81, 81, 81, 80, 78
80 Ryan Anderson -> 86, 82.5, 82.5, 82.5, 82, 82, 80, 80
I ignored the threads that were either a giant clusterfuck (Kevin Love thread) or didn't have any real agreement or participation.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Feb 8, 2013 4:07:50 GMT
Great stuff Alex, nice work.
Taking out the top and the bottom, then averaging the rest out, this is what we end up with:
73 Nicola Pekovic -> 78
73 Nikola Vucevic -> 78
79 Paul George -> 83.3333 - So, 83?
78 Jrue Holiday -> 83
82 David Lee -> 85.5? I'd say an 86, only 3 ratings, averages out close to 86.
78 Nicolas Batum -> 82.666667 - So, 83?
71 Jeff Teague -> 79
73 Greivis Vasquez -> 78
68 Tiago Splitter -> 75
77 Goran Dragic -> 81.4375...? 81?
79 Ty Lawson -> 83
72 Omer Asik -> 78
69 Patrick Patterson -> 75
80 Serge Ibaka -> 82
78 Marcin Gortat -> 81.269...so 81.
80 Ryan Anderson -> 81.96667...so 82.
As for Love, agreed, clusterfuck of a thread. There seemed to be a general consensus that his rebounding should be boosted to on par with Dwight, but switch their O/D Reb ratings so Love at 97 O and 95 D. Other than that, nothing decided there, though that's really all I was after :-p
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Post by Deleted on Feb 8, 2013 4:22:52 GMT
Great stuff Alex, nice work. Taking out the top and the bottom, then averaging the rest out, this is what we end up with: 73 Nicola Pekovic -> 78 73 Nikola Vucevic -> 78 79 Paul George -> 83.3333 - So, 83? 78 Jrue Holiday -> 83 82 David Lee -> 85.5? I'd say an 86, only 3 ratings, averages out close to 86. 78 Nicolas Batum -> 82.666667 - So, 83? 71 Jeff Teague -> 79 73 Greivis Vasquez -> 78 68 Tiago Splitter -> 75 77 Goran Dragic -> 81.4375...? 81? 79 Ty Lawson -> 83 72 Omer Asik -> 78 69 Patrick Patterson -> 75 80 Serge Ibaka -> 82 78 Marcin Gortat -> 81.269...so 81. 80 Ryan Anderson -> 81.96667...so 82. As for Love, agreed, clusterfuck of a thread. There seemed to be a general consensus that his rebounding should be boosted to on par with Dwight, but switch their O/D Reb ratings so Love at 97 O and 95 D. Other than that, nothing decided there, though that's really all I was after :-p How many votes are needed for a player to be considered for an increase. I still think we should somehow not do this unless there are rules and guidelines! |
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Post by Ian Noble on Feb 14, 2013 21:26:30 GMT
Nice work, Alex!
I've been extremely busy (and ill) in real life recently. I hope to have more time to dedicate to this section soon.
I'll venture back to this thread after I've browsed a few others, although it looks like some players have already been under heavy debate!
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Post by Ian Noble on Feb 14, 2013 21:44:25 GMT
73 Nikola Pekovic -> 78.5, 78, 78, 78, 78, 78, 77, 77
73 Nikola Vucevic -> 79.5, 78, 77.5, 75.5
79 Paul George -> 84, 84, 83, 83, 80.5, 82
78 Jrue Holiday -> 83.5, 83, 83, 83, 83, 83, 82, 81
82 David Lee -> 87.5, 85.5, 85.5
78 Nicolas Batum -> 84.5, 83, 82.5, 82.5, 82, 82
71 Jeff Teague -> 80, 79, 79, 79, 78
73 Greivis Vasquez -> 80.5, 80, 79.5, 77, 77, 77, 74, 78
68 Tiago Splitter -> 76, 76, 75.5, 75, 75, 74, 73.5
77 Goran Dragic -> 84, 82.5, 82, 82, 81.5, 81, 81, 81, 80.5, 80
79 Ty Lawson -> 83.5, 83, 83, 83, 83, 83, 82, 81
72 Omer Asik -> 80, 79, 78, 78, 78, 77.5, 77
69 Patrick Paterson -> 75, 75, 75, 75, 73
80 Serge Ibaka -> 85, 83, 83, 82.5, 81.5, 80, 80, 81
78 Marcin Gortat -> 84, 82, 82, 82, 82, 81.5, 81, 81, 81, 81, 81, 81, 80, 78
80 Ryan Anderson -> 86, 82.5, 82.5, 82.5, 82, 82, 80, 80
I've added my own opinion onto the end of each player, strikethrough every thread that I feel needs more discussion and left Jeff Teague and Tiago Splitter because I honestly haven't followed them and don't even value my own opinion on them, lol.
Then using my system of deduction (eliminate top and bottom 2 or 3 ratings, average the rest):
73 Nikola Pekovic -> 78
73 Nikola Vucevic -> 79.5, 78, 77.5, 75.5
79 Paul George -> 83
78 Jrue Holiday -> 83
82 David Lee -> 87.5, 85.5, 85.5
78 Nicolas Batum -> 83
71 Jeff Teague -> 79
73 Greivis Vasquez -> 78
68 Tiago Splitter -> 75
77 Goran Dragic -> 81
79 Ty Lawson -> 83
72 Omer Asik -> 78
69 Patrick Paterson -> 75
80 Serge Ibaka -> 82
78 Marcin Gortat -> 81
80 Ryan Anderson -> 82
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Post by Alex English on Feb 14, 2013 22:46:05 GMT
As usual thanks for all the hard work Ian. I'm glad this is getting dealt with.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Feb 15, 2013 3:28:44 GMT
As usual thanks for all the hard work Ian. I'm glad this is getting dealt with. +1 |
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