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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Apr 17, 2014 19:46:28 GMT
Wow, you guys read that? He's going #1 no question.
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Post by Charles Barkley on Apr 17, 2014 21:09:55 GMT
I wouldn't touch Parker with the first pick and I don't think he will go number 1 in the NBA draft.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 17, 2014 21:21:25 GMT
I wouldn't pick Wiggins. He will be a great player but he doesn't desire the game enough. Not yet at least. I hate LeBron and his arrogance..but that's what wiggins needs. He needs to be involved every play and I dont see him wanting that. You have to want to be the best. Even if your still learning and improving!!
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Post by Ian Noble on Apr 18, 2014 19:06:35 GMT
Jazz won the coin toss for 4th.
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Apr 18, 2014 19:13:02 GMT
Jazz won the coin toss for 4th. FFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUU It's a nice reward for not tanking the last game of the season
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Post by Ian Noble on Apr 18, 2014 19:23:01 GMT
Celtics always get screwed when it comes to the draft. ALWAYS. It breaks my balls.
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Post by Magic Johnson on Apr 18, 2014 19:29:33 GMT
Celtics always get screwed when it comes to the draft. ALWAYS. It breaks my balls. Better than Dumbtoni playing Nick Young and having career night against Utah and of course beating Spurs final night to screw us over from 6th place in lotto to 4th place. You guys at-least lost on a technicality we lost because Dumbtoni hates us.
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Post by Charles Barkley on Apr 19, 2014 0:09:45 GMT
I wouldn't pick Wiggins. He will be a great player but he doesn't desire the game enough. Not yet at least. I hate LeBron and his arrogance..but that's what wiggins needs. He needs to be involved every play and I dont see him wanting that. You have to want to be the best. Even if your still learning and improving!! No one coming out of college these last few years has that mentality. Mainly because all these kids do is play AAU all summer long. And if for some reason you guys aren't familiar with the AAU circuit, it is basically glorified pick up games. These kids are friends with everyone and have the "chummy" attitude towards each other. I think AAU basketball is killing the game. It puts them in a lackadaisical mind set, a la the Kentucky team that didn't start playing til the games mattered. And these kids don't understand the game because all their AAU offense consists of is isolation.
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Post by Charles Barkley on Apr 19, 2014 0:10:17 GMT
Celtics always get screwed when it comes to the draft. ALWAYS. It breaks my balls. **COUGH** **COUGH** LEN BIAS **COUGH** **COUGH**
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Post by Charles Barkley on Apr 19, 2014 0:14:45 GMT
Back on Parker:
He has the "Chris Paul" body. By this I mean, he looks like an average dude who you see at the court on the first Saturday of Spring looking for a game. Parker still has that JaMarcus Russel baby fat and got crazy out of shape when he was hurt in high school. He may be the most NBA ready guy in this draft, but he lacks the elite athleticism and lateral quickness it takes to guard the NBA's best night and night out. Wiggins may have a "poor" jumper right now, but so did Paul George his rookie year. I'd take Wiggins over Parker because as a rebuilding team, I don't need an NBA ready guy. Parker may end up leading his team to the playoffs the first season just like Melo did, especially if he winds up in the East. But the potential of Wiggins, Embiid, and even Gordon is insane.
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Post by Ian Noble on Apr 19, 2014 8:07:21 GMT
Celtics always get screwed when it comes to the draft. ALWAYS. It breaks my balls. **COUGH** **COUGH** LEN BIAS **COUGH** **COUGH** I think you just proved my point Sir Charles!
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Apr 19, 2014 13:56:22 GMT
The Jazz are going to trade Derrick Favors for the 2nd pick if they don't win the lotto to select Jabari Parker. Mormon with NBA all-star potential playing in Utah, you can almost hear the attendance and jersey sales.
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Post by Charles Barkley on Apr 19, 2014 18:57:40 GMT
The Jazz are going to trade Derrick Favors for the 2nd pick if they don't win the lotto to select Jabari Parker. Mormon with NBA all-star potential playing in Utah, you can almost hear the attendance and jersey sales. I don't think anyone would trade the number 2 pick for Favors straight up and I don't think the Jazz would give up Favors to move up ~3 spots. I could see the Jazz trading their 2016 first and swapping picks though. But I think as the NBA Draft Combine happens, Parker's and Randle's stock will decline as they aren't the athletic specimen that Exum, Wiggins, and Gordon are. All in all, I think Parker will end up going 3rd and Randle 6th.
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Post by Charles Barkley on Apr 19, 2014 19:01:00 GMT
**COUGH** **COUGH** LEN BIAS **COUGH** **COUGH** I think you just proved my point Sir Charles! That '86 Celtics team went on to win the 'ship without Bias though. Had Bias kept his nose clean, it would have been David Robinson - Tim Duncan before that even happened. I think the whole Len Bias thing is one of the greatest "what if's" in basketball history, because by all accounts, he was going to be something special. It would have changed the Bad Boy Pistons and possibly stunted the Lakers Dynasty. Hell, it may have even changed Jordan's legacy.
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Post by Ian Noble on Apr 19, 2014 19:06:59 GMT
I think you just proved my point Sir Charles! That '86 Celtics team went on to win the 'ship without Bias though. Had Bias kept his nose clean, it would have been David Robinson - Tim Duncan before that even happened. I think the whole Len Bias thing is one of the greatest "what if's" in basketball history, because by all accounts, he was going to be something special. It would have changed the Bad Boy Pistons and possibly stunted the Lakers Dynasty. Hell, it may have even changed Jordan's legacy. It would have likely completely changed the 1990s. Boston lost Bird to back problems a few years after they drafted Bias. With Len Bias in the lineup we would've been a much bigger Free Agent destination and would've rebuilt easier from the end of the Bird-McHale-Parish era, at least have pushed the Laimbeer/Dumars/Thomas Pistons much harder than we did and perhaps won one or two more championships. Perhaps!
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on May 17, 2014 18:32:36 GMT
I think Julius Erving is the best comparison for Andrew Wiggins. Wiggins strikes me as more of a T-Mac/Rudy Gay style player.
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Post by Ian Noble on May 22, 2014 13:59:32 GMT
My spidey-sense tells me this is how the top picks will pan out this year, what do you guys think?
Cleveland - Embiid Milwaukee - Parker Philadelphia - Wiggins Orlando - Randle Utah - Gordon Boston - Vonleh LA Lakers - Exum
People are quite down on Embiid, but he was by far the most exciting NCAA player before injury. Also I think his injury worries wont be so bad because he relies on fundamentals more than athleticism, so injury worries aren't as much of a concern.
Also I feel like Exum will force his way down to the Lakers and Boston will have to go for Al Jefferson 2.0, Noah Vonleh, which isn't bad at all really.
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on May 22, 2014 14:08:48 GMT
Cleveland - Embiid Milwaukee - Wiggins Philadelphia - Parker Orlando - Exum Utah - Vonleh Boston - Smart LA Lakers - Randle or Gordon
I don't see Exum dropping that far. He's similar to Oladipo in that he's a combo guard but there's no way Orlando or Philly pass him up; especially since Oladipo doesn't look like he can be the primary playmaker. In fact, I could see Philadelphia taking him and creating the perfect backcourt of two 6'7 light skinned guys. I think he has a lot of buzz around him and is guaranteed top 5.
On the flip side, I think Randle will slide further and further down as people take a closer look at these uber-athletes.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on May 22, 2014 15:10:57 GMT
Cleveland is taking Wiggins, all the Embiid BS is a smoke screen.
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Post by Ian Noble on May 22, 2014 15:43:47 GMT
Is there a need for smoke screens if you're picking #1?
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Post by Chris Mullin on May 22, 2014 15:50:07 GMT
Is there a need for smoke screens if you're picking #1? There is always a need for smoke screens. i just used 2 this morning alone..
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on May 22, 2014 16:22:10 GMT
Is there a need for smoke screens if you're picking #1? At no point do you want to give a sense of comfort to your opponents in knowing what's going to happen.
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Post by Glenn Robinson on May 22, 2014 23:57:57 GMT
Cleveland is taking Wiggins, all the Embiid BS is a smoke screen. I wouldn't be so sure of that. With Irving, Waiters, Thompson and Bennett they are lacking a true inside post presence and defensive rim protector. If Embiids back checks out, I could definitely see them taking him as he probably has the most potential in this draft. I could see Wiggins being the pick as well, but I just think that they could look at Embiid seriously.
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Post by Charles Barkley on May 23, 2014 2:08:27 GMT
I think this draft will go just like every other NBA draft goes. The players will be drafted according to the potential they have. Embiid has the potential to be special, like really really special. It wouldn't surprise me if Wiggins went #1 to the Cavs, but I think as their roster sits right now, Embiid is what they need more than a SF.
Ultimately, I think the draft ends up going like this: Embiid-Wiggins-Parker-Exum-Vonleh-Gordon-Smart-Randle.
I think there will be a lot of moves between now and the draft. I think the Jazz will do everything in their power to move up and get Parker and I think Philly would be ok dropping down to 5 and grabbing Vonleh. I like the idea of Exum going to the Magic and making a crazy athletic back court; Dipo would guard the point but play the 2. Randle will fall because he doesn't have the crazy potential Vonleh and Gordon have.
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on May 23, 2014 2:16:05 GMT
I think this draft will go just like every other NBA draft goes. The Cavaliers' pick will be a bust and they'll be right back in the top 3 again next year. FTFY
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Post by Charles Barkley on May 23, 2014 2:38:35 GMT
I think this draft will go just like every other NBA draft goes. The Cavaliers' pick will be a bust and they'll be right back in the top 3 again next year. FTFY LOL If I'm the Cavs, I swap picks with Minny and get Love. Or trade Kyrie to Minny for Dieng, Rubio and their pick. But the Cavs are incompetent so they won't make any smart moves and will just hope LeBron comes back and has pity sex with them.
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Post by Clyde Drexler on May 23, 2014 11:55:39 GMT
My spidey-sense tells me this is how the top picks will pan out this year, what do you guys think? Cleveland - Embiid Milwaukee - Parker Philadelphia - Wiggins Orlando - Randle Utah - Gordon Boston - Vonleh LA Lakers - Exum People are quite down on Embiid, but he was by far the most exciting NCAA player before injury. Also I think his injury worries wont be so bad because he relies on fundamentals more than athleticism, so injury worries aren't as much of a concern. Also I feel like Exum will force his way down to the Lakers and Boston will have to go for Al Jefferson 2.0, Noah Vonleh, which isn't bad at all really. I'm having the similar thought process for that top 3; or at least I think Wiggins will drop to Philly.
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Post by Ian Noble on May 23, 2014 12:14:16 GMT
Cleveland - need an inside presence, don't want to lose Luol Deng. Joel Embiid. Milwaukee - not fashionable enough for Wiggins to stick around longer than his rookie contract. Parker has the work ethic and is humble enough to stick with the Bucks. Philly - why not take Wiggins?
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on May 23, 2014 12:15:43 GMT
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on May 23, 2014 13:12:29 GMT
Ian I don't think anyone really cares if Luol Deng leaves Cleveland, he doesn't solve the floor spacing problem they have and there are 3 and D guys available SFs this off-season. Although I really like Embiid and think he might be the pick I don't think Deng has anything to do with it.
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