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Post by Ian Noble on Mar 11, 2014 22:35:19 GMT
It's really sad news, I feel for Embiid.
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Post by Alex English on Mar 12, 2014 1:04:30 GMT
Lol Billy you are just as bad as the people acting like he's Olajuwon, just in the opposite direction. He is still a top 5 prospect for this class.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Mar 12, 2014 4:18:28 GMT
Statistically only 2-3 out of the top 5 will actually ever be great in each given draft anyways.
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Post by Ian Noble on Mar 27, 2014 15:49:55 GMT
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Mar 27, 2014 16:17:25 GMT
Wiggins is starting with a base athleticism that is much more Paul George. He'll be a beast after an NBA offseason with pro trainers.
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Post by Ian Noble on Mar 31, 2014 21:01:34 GMT
Looks like Wiggins has declared.
I honestly don't see him being great in his rookie year. I think he's going to have an amazing career, but he looks slower to develop than Jabari and Randle (and Smart too).
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Post by Alex English on Mar 31, 2014 21:16:29 GMT
Yea I think Parker, Smart, and Randle are all more NBA ready. It will take a few years for his offense to develop. But Wiggins will be the best athlete in the class by a mile and the best defender, apart from maybe Embiid.
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Post by Ian Noble on Mar 31, 2014 21:31:04 GMT
Wiggins will go #1, get taken by Cleveland, and then sit behind Alonzo Gee in the rotation the first 3 years of his career! Book it! Cleveland - shitting on Canadian prospects since 2013
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Post by Alex English on Mar 31, 2014 21:38:59 GMT
Wiggins will go #1, get taken by Cleveland, and then sit behind Alonzo Gee in the rotation the first 3 years of his career! Book it! Cleveland - shitting on Canadian prospects since 2013 That goddamn buffoon Mike Brown!
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Post by Magic Johnson on Mar 31, 2014 21:43:22 GMT
Looks like Wiggins has declared. I honestly don't see him being great in his rookie year. I think he's going to have an amazing career, but he looks slower to develop than Jabari and Randle (and Smart too). Don't blame him for his lack of productivity in college and if he struggles as a pro early on in his career not his fault. Bill Self is one of the most overrated HC in college basketball, only reason why even has a job at KU is because of Chalmers, he should thank the lawd that Chalmers hit that shot against Rose and Memphis every night. Good recruiter but lousy coach, Wiggins should have been given more creative freedom on offense instead of playing in a garbage shitty system to let scrubs like Nadir Tharpe and Tarik Black to shine.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Apr 1, 2014 0:46:23 GMT
Wiggins will go #1, get taken by Cleveland, and then sit behind Alonzo Gee in the rotation the first 3 years of his career! Book it! Cleveland - shitting on Canadian prospects since 2013 That goddamn buffoon Mike Brown! To be fair Anthony Bennett sucking was more because of conditioning than anything. I get this weird feeling he passes Thompson on the depth chart sometime next season.
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Post by Alex English on Apr 1, 2014 1:45:30 GMT
Don't blame him for his lack of productivity in college and if he struggles as a pro early on in his career not his fault. Bill Self is one of the most overrated HC in college basketball, only reason why even has a job at KU is because of Chalmers, he should thank the lawd that Chalmers hit that shot against Rose and Memphis every night. Good recruiter but lousy coach, Wiggins should have been given more creative freedom on offense instead of playing in a garbage shitty system to let scrubs like Nadir Tharpe and Tarik Black to shine. This is completely wrong. You can't just hand over a basketball team to an 18 year old kid. That's nuts. Wiggins would develop and endless number of bad habits and would only learn to be selfish. Even playing within the system at Kansas he led the team with 422 field goal attempts, more than 100 more than Perry Ellis who took 317 attempts, second most on the team. It doesn't even work in the NBA with full grown men. The Knicks are 10-9 when Melo takes less than 20 shot attempts. When he takes 20 or more they are 23-32. Another fun fact, for his entire career, Kobe attempts 18.7 shots per game in wins (shooting 47.6%) and 21.3 attempts per game in losses (shooting 41.7%). Basketball is a team game. Look at the Spurs who have dominated for more than a decade playing system basketball. With few exceptions, isolation basketball is the worst gameplan a team can have.
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Post by Ian Noble on Apr 2, 2014 21:37:33 GMT
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Apr 2, 2014 22:34:06 GMT
AHHHH COME ON!
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Post by Charles Barkley on Apr 4, 2014 20:45:44 GMT
Basketball is a team game. Look at the Spurs who have dominated for more than a decade playing system basketball. With few exceptions, isolation basketball is the worst gameplan a team can have. But this is the only offense Mike Brown knows how to run!!!!
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Apr 5, 2014 2:10:45 GMT
Joel Embiid here I come.
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Post by Charles Barkley on Apr 5, 2014 18:23:04 GMT
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Apr 5, 2014 19:44:06 GMT
Lol, I like how McAdoo passed on being in the top 10 a few years back. Then he really didn't get any better now he'll end up at the end of the 1st go to a good team and get crazy overrated because he's playing off great players.
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Post by Ian Noble on Apr 5, 2014 20:23:27 GMT
Has Embiid definitely declared? I seem to remember it being in doubt...
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Apr 5, 2014 22:13:01 GMT
We won't know for a bit I presume. I think he leaves though.
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Post by Charles Barkley on Apr 6, 2014 20:13:40 GMT
Is it just me or is Randle's draft stock not really moving because of the deep tourney run, but, instead, the Harrison twins, Young, and Johnson are climbing?
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Post by Ian Noble on Apr 6, 2014 20:20:19 GMT
Randle really has to step up to continue moving up though, he's got The Big 3 ahead of him.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Apr 7, 2014 5:02:00 GMT
The important thing to remember is that Randle isn't really the guy leading the team to victories. Its the other players who finally clicked and are playing to their strengths finally. These Harrison kids played themselves off the draft boards. Now they are proving they've got something. I think the only way Randle goes up is if Parker and Embiid don't declare.
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Post by Charles Barkley on Apr 7, 2014 5:24:41 GMT
Yeah, I don't think Randle will crack the top 3 in the draft boards. He may be taken above the others because of team need or whatever, but he has performed all season. It just seems like this young Kentucky team was like, "Ok guys, I guess these games count now, let's actually care." Where as they probably took a lackadaisical AAU-ish approach to all the regular season games, besides Randle at least. I am liking Randle more and more when I think about the fact that he "carried" his team this season when no one else on it seemed to really care much. And I am already sky high on Julius.
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Post by Ian Noble on Apr 16, 2014 8:50:41 GMT
Today is Jabari Parker decision day!
He said he's going to follow Coach K's advice. I think if K is honest he'll tell Jabari that he's perhaps the most NBA ready player and should declare. However Jabari might really want to avenge his early exit this year.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Apr 16, 2014 12:54:31 GMT
Coach K doesn't give a damn about the well being of his players.
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Post by Ian Noble on Apr 16, 2014 21:14:27 GMT
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Post by Charles Barkley on Apr 16, 2014 22:04:10 GMT
I don't think Jabari is declaring today. Which means that is likely very torn about this whole thing. I don't understand why he would stay though, he is already the most NBA ready prospect. So staying at Duke to work on his game is pointless because the level of competition in college isn't equal to that of the NBA.
It would be very interesting to see what happens if he stays, he would go number 1 next year for sure but what does that do the rest of this draft and how does it change next year's draft prospects? A lot of NBA teams like Mudiay (PG SMU) next year. I think Parker staying will cause someone to rise unexpectedly and get picked in the top 5, like Smart or Harris.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 16, 2014 22:33:26 GMT
I don't think Jabari is declaring today. Which means that is likely very torn about this whole thing. I don't understand why he would stay though, he is already the most NBA ready prospect. So staying at Duke to work on his game is pointless because the level of competition in college isn't equal to that of the NBA. It would be very interesting to see what happens if he stays, he would go number 1 next year for sure but what does that do the rest of this draft and how does it change next year's draft prospects? A lot of NBA teams like Mudiay (PG SMU) next year. I think Parker staying will cause someone to rise unexpectedly and get picked in the top 5, like Smart or Harris. He will declare. Players like him in the past that choose not to..regret it later. What if he gets injured or doesn't play as well. Not only that he might not be a top pick next season. Money wise. He needs to declare to get the money. If he gets injured in the NBA you get the best doctors. You can Afford it. If your top 10 prospect you declare. Otherwise it may end up being the worst mistake of their lives.
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Post by Ian Noble on Apr 17, 2014 16:52:38 GMT
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