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Post by Ian Noble on May 23, 2017 19:24:43 GMT
Claim Bird RightsAny team wishing to re-sign their player/s using their Bird Rights this off season must reply here in this thread before Off Season Free Agency begins on July 1st, 2017. A cap hold will be applied to your player/s salary until the player is signed.
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Post by Ian Noble on May 23, 2017 19:31:53 GMT
The Boston Celtics claim Bird Rights on Glenn Robinson, acquired during the 2014 Draft and signed as a second rounder on the 19th June 2015. |
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on May 23, 2017 19:48:00 GMT
Nets claim bird rights on Michael Kidd-Gilchrist. It is actually very interesting to read through the comments in this trade a few years after the fact. |
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Post by Danny Longley on May 23, 2017 20:06:05 GMT
The Mavericks claim Bird Rights on Dirk Nowitzki who's been with the D5 Mavericks for all 6 seasons. We also claim Bird Rights on Courtney Lee, signed with the team July 12, 2014. |
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Post by Walt Frazier on May 23, 2017 20:09:39 GMT
The Minnesota Timberwolves will claim Bird Rights on Clint Capela. He has 2 full seasons on our roster plus part of the 3rd when we signed him towards the end of his Rookie season.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on May 23, 2017 21:08:23 GMT
Grizzlies claim Bird Rights on Nikola Jokic and await a decision on his restricted free agency.
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Post by Alex English on May 23, 2017 22:01:47 GMT
Do I need to claim Bird rights on James Harden? He's obviously going to opt out since he can nearly double his salary. I'm just going to claim Harden's Bird rights for his inevitable opt out decision.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on May 23, 2017 23:52:24 GMT
Do we really need to claim bird rights anymore now that we are essentially claiming players via RFA and team options and such.
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on May 23, 2017 23:55:45 GMT
Grizzlies claim Bird Rights on Nikola Jokic and await a decision on his restricted free agency. How would he be restricted? He is a 2nd rounder |
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on May 24, 2017 0:14:51 GMT
Grizzlies claim Bird Rights on Nikola Jokic and await a decision on his restricted free agency. How would he be restricted? He is a 2nd rounder Any player coming off of a rookie contract is considered restricted. Matthew Delladova for example was a restricted free agent for Cleveland last offseason, he had a qualifying offer of I think it was 1.5 million or something. |
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on May 24, 2017 0:19:12 GMT
Restricted Free Agent Matthew DellavedovaHe actually wasn't even drafted. Rule from the Wiki: For first-round draft picks, restricted free agency is only allowed after a team exercises its option for a fourth year, and the team makes a Qualifying Offer at the Rookie-scale amount after the fourth year is completed. For any other player to be a restricted free agent, he must be at most a three-year NBA veteran, and his team must have made a Qualifying Offer for either 125% of his previous season's salary or the minimum salary plus $200,000, whichever offer is higher. Jokic falls under this specification.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on May 24, 2017 0:30:12 GMT
So in reality, anyone who's signed the random free agents that are rookies to 4 year deals won't have those players be restricted because they will be 4 year vets and not 3 years by the time they are done with their deal. So like with Delly on my deal he won't be restricted he'll just be a regular bird rights player because he'll be a veteran too long.
In the end I actually think the 3 year max-limit for restricted free agents means that any new players added to free agency (who are rookies for our league) will encourage people to give shorter deals to those players overall improving the speed at which players change teams or at least have to give realistic deals.
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on May 24, 2017 1:07:58 GMT
No, I meant that it is clearly spelled out in everything Ian has ever posted about RFA that it only applies to 1st rounders in D5- whimsically adding rules to suit your needs is not how this league works. It would be unfair to GMs who planned based on the rules set in stone, as well as the players it impacts who would not want to be forced to re-sign with their current rosters.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on May 24, 2017 1:19:37 GMT
No, I meant that it is clearly spelled out in everything Ian has ever posted about RFA that it only applies to 1st rounders in D5- whimsically adding rules to suit your needs is not how this league works. It would be unfair to GMs who planned based on the rules set in stone, as well as the players it impacts who would not want to be forced to re-sign with their current rosters. The players aren't real, they aren't planning their lives. Why would it make sense that only 1st rounders are restricted free agents when random undrafted dudes can be restricted free agents? |
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Post by Charles Barkley on May 24, 2017 2:28:42 GMT
Restricted Free Agent Matthew DellavedovaHe actually wasn't even drafted. Rule from the Wiki: For first-round draft picks, restricted free agency is only allowed after a team exercises its option for a fourth year, and the team makes a Qualifying Offer at the Rookie-scale amount after the fourth year is completed. For any other player to be a restricted free agent, he must be at most a three-year NBA veteran, and his team must have made a Qualifying Offer for either 125% of his previous season's salary or the minimum salary plus $200,000, whichever offer is higher. Jokic falls under this specification. He hasn't been in D5 for 3 years though And our rules state only first round draft picks |
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Post by Charles Barkley on May 24, 2017 2:30:43 GMT
No, I meant that it is clearly spelled out in everything Ian has ever posted about RFA that it only applies to 1st rounders in D5- whimsically adding rules to suit your needs is not how this league works. It would be unfair to GMs who planned based on the rules set in stone, as well as the players it impacts who would not want to be forced to re-sign with their current rosters. The players aren't real, they aren't planning their lives. Why would it make sense that only 1st rounders are restricted free agents when random undrafted dudes can be restricted free agents? Random undrafted dudes can't be restricted free agents though. Our rules state only first round drafted rookies, because the whole reason behind RFA in here was to allow teams to keep their young players, those that are on the typical first round rookie deals, not necessarily those on the 2nd round deals. |
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Post by Charles Barkley on May 24, 2017 2:32:00 GMT
No, I meant that it is clearly spelled out in everything Ian has ever posted about RFA that it only applies to 1st rounders in D5- whimsically adding rules to suit your needs is not how this league works. It would be unfair to GMs who planned based on the rules set in stone, as well as the players it impacts who would not want to be forced to re-sign with their current rosters. You know those rules that everyone abides by and follows? They don't apply to Jeremiah. |
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on May 24, 2017 3:23:31 GMT
The players aren't real, they aren't planning their lives. Why would it make sense that only 1st rounders are restricted free agents when random undrafted dudes can be restricted free agents? Random undrafted dudes can't be restricted free agents though. Our rules state only first round drafted rookies, because the whole reason behind RFA in here was to allow teams to keep their young players, those that are on the typical first round rookie deals, not necessarily those on the 2nd round deals. They can in real life and we always try and emulate the real rules. |
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Glenn Robinson
 Milwaukee Bucks
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Post by Glenn Robinson on May 24, 2017 3:51:42 GMT
Milwaukee Bucks claim bird rights on both Anthony Davis and Bradley Beal.
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Kevin Hollis
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Post by Kevin Hollis on May 24, 2017 12:56:48 GMT
OKC is the claiming bird rights on Kevin Durant and DeMarcus Cousins
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Post by Charles Barkley on May 25, 2017 0:56:16 GMT
Claiming Bird Rights on Giannis Antetokounmpo
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on May 25, 2017 1:27:09 GMT
Do we need to claim bird rights on our rfas or are they implied?
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Post by Charles Barkley on May 25, 2017 3:34:14 GMT
Do we need to claim bird rights on our rfas or are they implied? Should claim them because even if you did not have them for three years, and they are an RFA, you have the ability to go over the cap, from what I understand. So there's a little variation in things. |
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Post by Charles Barkley on May 25, 2017 3:35:14 GMT
Milwaukee Bucks claim bird rights on both Anthony Davis and Bradley Beal. Aint gunna dew yew ne gud |
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Magic Johnson
Former Lakers GM
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Post by Magic Johnson on May 25, 2017 7:39:35 GMT
Lakers claim bird rights for Harrison Barnes.
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Post by Bryan Colangelo on Jun 3, 2017 18:06:12 GMT
Toronto claims demar derozan rights
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jun 4, 2017 0:16:54 GMT
We will claim Clarkson's BR  |
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Chris Mullin
 Golden State Warriors
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Post by Chris Mullin on Jun 6, 2017 18:32:28 GMT
The Warriors will claim BR's on Pau Gasol
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Post by James Kay on Jun 11, 2017 20:03:41 GMT
Claiming BRs on Ibaka.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jul 2, 2017 14:35:09 GMT
So, Jae Crowder. Since we changed our BR rules on the fly, I totally missed that he was coming off of his Rookie Contract. If we're giving JR the leniency on Jonas Valanciunas, I'd also like to get a 1-day leniency on Jae Crowder. He was coming off of his 1st-Round Rookie contract and I clearly would have claimed BR's on him. I feel like a fool, as I dealt Oladipo already with the singular intention of clearing up more cap for Jae, when I should have just had BR's on Jae and not needed to deal him in the first place. Point being, I clearly would have claimed his BR's had I been not confused and thinking about the old BR rules. I'm an idiot, but have a bit of mercy on me. I've owned him 2 full seasons and clearly would want his BR's. The spirit of this new rule should be automatic BR's, and if you don't want them, you have to renounce them. Especially this first season, IMHO. I've already punished myself by dealing Oladipo right before he goes to a much better situation for him IRL. :-( Ian Noble |
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