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Post by JR Wiles on Mar 15, 2016 13:58:49 GMT
I get that Anthony Bennett will likely be a bust and Cameron Payne will likely have a better NBA career but its to early to say. Basically we are predicting the future with Cameron Payne. I accept, JR gets a prospect and $7,632,971 more in cap space. Exactly...Thank You |
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Post by Danny Longley on Mar 15, 2016 16:17:12 GMT
It looks like I might be the only one, but I reject.
Once Andrew Bynum comes off the books, the Spurs will have approximately 39m of cap space to work with - more than enough to throw Jackson a max deal - so if feels like it's unnecessary to throw away one of their better assets for nothing of long term value - Derrick Williams is a bench big for a mediocre team, and again, Bennett has failed to do anything of note for the Wolves, the Raptors, or even the Raptors' D-League team.
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Post by JR Wiles on Mar 15, 2016 16:25:06 GMT
I would like to also resign Williams as well. You guys are all about picks. Money is just as important..
I explained things to you Danny. Its more than fair enough. Can predict the future. Base trades off the present...
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Post by Danny Longley on Mar 15, 2016 16:40:44 GMT
I would like to also resign Williams as well. You guys are all about picks. Money is just as important.. I explained things to you Danny. Its more than fair enough. Can predict the future. Base trades off the present... Anthony Bennett has failed to make a mark even in the D-League, and hasn't scored more than 5 points in a game all season. Derrick Williams is a backup for a team that's more than likely to miss the playoffs. With Payne, it's not even the case of a pick anymore, IMO he's shown himself to be a capable PG, has had some very good games but unfortunately plays behind Russell Westbrook. He's also on a very cap friendly deal, more than likely to be way cheaper than whatever backup PG you're going to end up throwing money at come free agency - so that kills the Kaman part for me. Both present and future in mind, it's still a reject for me. |
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Post by JR Wiles on Mar 15, 2016 16:53:03 GMT
Its cool Danny. I think it comes down to gms liking guys more than if a trade is fair or not. AB has talent. He just needs to realize it in his "young" head. Thats coming from his former GM. Alot of times guys ask to go down to the D League to get mins and get better. AB went because they forced him. In his head with his talent he didnt need to go or prove things. This lead to him not trying. Showing coaches he was expendable. Its a fair deal. AB will play in the league again.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2016 17:04:50 GMT
Its cool Danny. I think it comes down to gms liking guys more than if a trade is fair or not. AB has talent. He just needs to realize it in his "young" head. Thats coming from his former GM. Alot of times guys ask to go down to the D League to get mins and get better. AB went because they forced him. In his head with his talent he didnt need to go or prove things. This lead to him not trying. Showing coaches he was expendable. Its a fair deal. AB will play in the league again. Bruh it's not fair if you're trading a top 15 pick for two guys that wont be in the NBA next year. |
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Post by JR Wiles on Mar 15, 2016 17:13:10 GMT
Derrick Williams wont be in the league?
Kaman still plays and gets mins.
And fair is fair. Bynums numbers are coming off. It was never a secret. You should have made deals. Sorry im trying to better my team.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2016 17:24:32 GMT
Basically we are predicting the future with Cameron Payne. If this is your logic to accept this trade then you think draft picks are virtually worthless too "Oh we are predicting the future that a top 15 draft pick will have a good future so we can trade him for players sitting on waivers". Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2016 17:24:42 GMT
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Post by Ian Noble on Mar 15, 2016 17:51:00 GMT
I see the love for Ian won out 5 of the 15 trades I've submitted in the history of D5 have been rejected. 1 in 3 trades. If there's a bias I'm not benefitting lol. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2016 18:29:45 GMT
Well you got Cameron Payne for free and like 5 1st rounders for pick 14 last year  But maybe those trades would've passed anyway  |
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Post by JR Wiles on Mar 15, 2016 18:34:37 GMT
I see the love for Ian won out 5 of the 15 trades I've submitted in the history of D5 have been rejected. 1 in 3 trades. If there's a bias I'm not benefitting lol. This comes down to a trade being fair but some gms wanting to predict the future and give us opinions instead of looking at the main picture. This honestly started with only Bennett and Payne. Thats how much risk i have in Anthony Bennett. We have seen players take odd routes through their careers. Overseas and back. Coming back alot better than before and sometimes better. There are teams thinking about signing him. Its if they can package together the training and time to go along with the money to do everything. Even since being waived from Toronto people say he still has the talent and the game to have a career in the NBA. You guys can give up on a 22yr old if you want. I save cap, get down to one veteran player if you can really even call Nick that., and pick up a young backup with the potential still to improve in Williams...then i get My project..my secret weapon. Even if he just becomes a role player. It still all works out. At worst i get more cap to sign FAs and bring back Reggie Jackson, improving my team and getting that much closer to go from front to back and back to the championship again. How cool would that be? |
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Post by JR Wiles on Mar 15, 2016 19:24:50 GMT
Accepts:
Alex
Bryan
Josh-You still on the TC or does Ian need to delete that under your name. Lmao.
Rejects:
Danny
Just trying to see where things stand. Too much over a trade not worth enough to reject. Some people love drama. Thought that was a female thing. Thought wrong I guess.
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Post by JR Wiles on Mar 15, 2016 19:31:53 GMT
Boston Celtics--Involved in Trade
Dallas Mavericks--Rejected
Denver Nuggets-Accepted
Minnesota Timberwolves
Toronto Raptors--Accepted
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Post by Bryan Colangelo on Mar 15, 2016 19:31:58 GMT
Alex and I accept
Danny rejected, if Walt rejects, goes to a league vote.
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Post by JR Wiles on Mar 15, 2016 19:32:55 GMT
Ok thanks
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Post by Walt Frazier on Mar 15, 2016 20:34:03 GMT
I've really been marinating on this. Time to vote.
Bennett is Beasley 2.0, but with LESS of a proven track record. A lot less.
Ian, you're just too damn smooth of a negotiator. I love you man, but I think this trade is bad for JR.
I'm very on the edge of if it's "bad enough to reject" or not, but I can't shake it, so here it comes.
Reject.
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Post by James Kay on Mar 15, 2016 20:37:14 GMT
Wooo! League Vote!
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Mar 15, 2016 21:19:54 GMT
Accept for unbiased reasons
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Post by Ian Noble on Mar 15, 2016 21:21:54 GMT
GM's have 24 hours to vote on this trade! When Walt's post is 24 hours old I will tally up the results. I've really been marinating on this. Time to vote. Bennett is Beasley 2.0, but with LESS of a proven track record. A lot less. Ian, you're just too damn smooth of a negotiator. I love you man, but I think this trade is bad for JR. I'm very on the edge of if it's "bad enough to reject" or not, but I can't shake it, so here it comes. Reject. |
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Post by Ian Noble on Mar 15, 2016 21:23:12 GMT
Accept for personal gain on my 2017 pick Rules: "GMs in the league are given 24 hours to provide their unbiased opinion on the trade." |
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Mar 15, 2016 21:34:30 GMT
Accept for personal gain on my 2017 pick Rules: "GMs in the league are given 24 hours to provide their unbiased opinion on the trade." edited  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2016 21:44:27 GMT
Reject. Why do I fight for someone who hates me so much?
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Post by Ian Noble on Mar 15, 2016 21:50:04 GMT
Rules: "GMs in the league are given 24 hours to provide their unbiased opinion on the trade." edited lol |
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Post by Charles Barkley on Mar 15, 2016 23:15:22 GMT
Bruh, we all thought he was a talented kid with upside until we realized he was fat and lazy and couldn't run the length of the court 5 times. Anthony Bennett can't be considered a bust because that whole draft was full of busters. I don't think one person from that draft starts for a playoff team. Bennett is done. Don't know why you're trading for him, Payne is a way better asset and worth more than the 7 million in cap space and Bennett. I reject. #MakeTheSpursGreatAgain Also, JR, if we had restricted free agency, you wouldn't need that cap space for Reggie, bruh. Did you hear what ive posted? I dont care if you or anyone else thinks hes a bust with no value. Im still getting cap space and Derrick Williams. Not only that the GM of the team he was just waived...commented that he is talented and still has a chance with the right team. Yes, i get the whole RFA thing. Yes im still against it. Why...because i didnt get it when i lost Tim Duncan did I? Anyway this is about now and a fair trade. And exactly most of the draft class was not good. I dont get where you are coming from with your # hashtag shit. The Spurs are good and bevoming better. I dont need or want help so back the fuck up. Thanks Nah bruh. |
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Post by Charles Barkley on Mar 15, 2016 23:16:10 GMT
I see the love for Ian won out 5 of the 15 trades I've submitted in the history of D5 have been rejected. 1 in 3 trades. If there's a bias I'm not benefitting lol. Prolly because you won't do a trade unless it is heavily in your favor, bruh |
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Post by JR Wiles on Mar 15, 2016 23:26:09 GMT
Reject. Why do I fight for someone who hates me so much? No one hates you. Just mind your business when it comes to something that has nothing to do with you. Thats the only issue. Now you got to screw me over. Unbiased. I rarely get involved in trades but it goes all ways. So be happy, and when he does sign with a team and makes a comeback i want you to stop voicing your opinion in trades. Thats fair. And hes Not even a Beasley 2.0 Beasley is a decent player. Head case sure. But he still plays the game and has value as well. I really hope this trade goes through because its fair and its how i want my team built. Why should the league get the vote. ****PLEASE VOTE WITHOUT REASON GUYS. PLEASE. I JUST WANT THIS OVER WITHOUT GETTING TOO ANNOYED... |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 15, 2016 23:27:59 GMT
Reject. Why do I fight for someone who hates me so much? No one hates you. Just mind your business when it comes to something that has nothing to do with you. Thats the only issue. Now you got to screw me over. Unbiased. I rarely get involved in trades but it goes all ways. So be happy, and when he does sign with a team and makes a comeback i want you to stop voicing your opinion in trades. Thats fair. And hes Not even a Beasley 2.0 Beasley is a decent player. Head case sure. But he still plays the game and has value as well. I really hope this trade goes through because its fair and its how i want my team built. Why should the league get the vote. ****PLEASE VOTE WITHOUT REASON GUYS. PLEASE. I JUST WANT THIS OVER WITHOUT GETTING TOO ANNOYED... Yeah JR, when Bennett comes back and dwarfs Cameron Payne I'll stop calling your trades terrible like they are. |
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Post by JR Wiles on Mar 15, 2016 23:47:23 GMT
I get that Anthony Bennett will likely be a bust and Cameron Payne will likely have a better NBA career but its to early to say. Basically we are predicting the future with Cameron Payne. I accept, JR gets a prospect and $7,632,971 more in cap space. Bump-- i need the cap in the trade. I would like to better my team and sign Derrick and Reggie in the offseason. If Benette works out too thats 3 guys i get for Payne. Is that not fair enough? Not to add Bynums contract... |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 16, 2016 0:48:38 GMT
I get that Anthony Bennett will likely be a bust and Cameron Payne will likely have a better NBA career but its to early to say. Basically we are predicting the future with Cameron Payne. I accept, JR gets a prospect and $7,632,971 more in cap space. Bump-- i need the cap in the trade. I would like to better my team and sign Derrick and Reggie in the offseason. If Benette works out too thats 3 guys i get for Payne. Is that not fair enough? Not to add Bynums contract... No it isn't enough. Do you even math? You cleared like 8 million in cap space, the fact that you gave up a top 20 pick for that is fucking insane. You could've given away a shitty second and cleared that much room. |
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