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Post by George Gervin on May 28, 2020 13:12:02 GMT
New wrinkle in the return to action discussions: the playoff format according to a few NBA insiders (Shams, KOC, etc.) that has gained the most traction is a World Cup style, group stage approach since it would 1) hit the RSN 70 game minimum most teams need to get their whole payout on TV deals and 2) would be the ideal way— especially with the MLB quarreling on its return— to seize the solo spotlight before football returns in the fall.
Essentially the discussed structure would be the top 20 teams by record (12 from the West, 8 from the East) put into 5 tiers, then drawn similarly to how the WC draw is done. Once started, at the group stage each team in its pod would play 8 games with the top two teams advancing. The latter stages have yet to be ironed out (according to reports), but the League could have way more playoff games than normal under this structure.
I’d also love to see a Group of Death in this structure— like say the Clippers, Celts, Rockets, and Trailblazers— to see how intense those games would be.
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Post by Ian Noble on May 28, 2020 14:10:25 GMT
New wrinkle in the return to action discussions: the playoff format according to a few NBA insiders (Shams, KOC, etc.) that has gained the most traction is a World Cup style, group stage approach since it would 1) hit the RSN 70 game minimum most teams need to get their whole payout on TV deals and 2) would be the ideal way— especially with the MLB quarreling on its return— to seize the solo spotlight before football returns in the fall. Essentially the discussed structure would be the top 20 teams by record (12 from the West, 8 from the East) put into 5 tiers, then drawn similarly to how the WC draw is done. Once started, at the group stage each team in its pod would play 8 games with the top two teams advancing. The latter stages have yet to be ironed out (according to reports), but the League could have way more playoff games than normal under this structure. I’d also love to see a Group of Death in this structure— like say the Clippers, Celts, Rockets, and Trailblazers— to see how intense those games would be. That would be so awesome. Just one more massive logical step away from my promotion/relegation idea  |
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Post by George Gervin on May 28, 2020 14:23:50 GMT
New wrinkle in the return to action discussions: the playoff format according to a few NBA insiders (Shams, KOC, etc.) that has gained the most traction is a World Cup style, group stage approach since it would 1) hit the RSN 70 game minimum most teams need to get their whole payout on TV deals and 2) would be the ideal way— especially with the MLB quarreling on its return— to seize the solo spotlight before football returns in the fall. Essentially the discussed structure would be the top 20 teams by record (12 from the West, 8 from the East) put into 5 tiers, then drawn similarly to how the WC draw is done. Once started, at the group stage each team in its pod would play 8 games with the top two teams advancing. The latter stages have yet to be ironed out (according to reports), but the League could have way more playoff games than normal under this structure. I’d also love to see a Group of Death in this structure— like say the Clippers, Celts, Rockets, and Trailblazers— to see how intense those games would be. That would be so awesome. Just one more massive logical step away from my promotion/relegation idea I really hope this is the structure for this year— it’d be two straight weeks of at least 6 games a day, which in this sports starved environment, is exactly what I’d want lol. Though one of the big sticking points from some higher seeded teams is that the teams in 6-13 are kind of stacked and could lead to one “favorite” getting screwed in group play. An example used was if the Clippers as the team with the third best record ending up in a group with Miami (8), Philly (12), and Portland (17), where in most years those are all teams who are top 6 in their conference. But i would actually prefer the drama from such scenarios lol. Relegation would never fly in the States— owners have too much to lose here. |
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on May 28, 2020 14:28:04 GMT
So we'd have 4 groups of 5 teams each, with 2/5 teams progressing from each group. So that leads into an 8 team playoff, which I assume would still be best of 7?
Pretty awesome concept, especially all played at a central location. It would cool to have a world-cup like atmosphere in the future when fans are allowed to return, maybe have a different state host each year with venues in different cities. We have tons of good-sized basketball arenas across the US due to college basketball, so I'd imagine there's at least 15 states that could easily host games in 4-5 different stadiums each day for group stage.
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Post by George Gervin on May 28, 2020 14:30:45 GMT
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Post by Ian Noble on May 29, 2020 21:43:48 GMT
Jesus Christ Ian, all we had to do was wait another 2 months and you went ahead and jumped the gun  Seriously though, this is good news |
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Post by George Gervin on May 29, 2020 23:34:48 GMT
Bit disappointed the GM survey results Silver and team collected showed only 12 teams with interest in the World Cup option
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Post by George Gervin on Jun 2, 2020 23:00:25 GMT
Latest from Woj today: NBA should be voting at Board of Governors meeting Thursday on the return, with July 31 emerging as the start and the latest possible end date (assuming all series go to Game 7) would be October 12.
Draft would be sometime around October 20, and FA would start the week of Halloween
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Post by Ian Noble on Jun 5, 2020 8:37:53 GMT
Draft day announced as October 15th  |
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Jun 8, 2020 19:53:23 GMT
LaMarcus Aldridge played the entire D5 playoffs after having season-ending shoulder surgery on April 24 Would have been chaos if the Kings had made the finals and this news came out today |
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Post by Jerry West on Jun 8, 2020 19:57:11 GMT
LaMarcus Aldridge played the entire D5 playoffs after having season-ending shoulder surgery on April 24 Would have been chaos if the Kings had made the finals and this news came out today Bojan still played anyway after season ending surgery tho |
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Post by George Gervin on Jun 12, 2020 12:21:55 GMT
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Post by Ian Noble on Jun 15, 2020 12:38:47 GMT
So I think the best we have right now in terms of dates is:
NBA Draft starts: October 15
NBA Free Agency starts: October 18
We still need to wait until the Salary Cap is announced before we can start our D5 Player Options decisions, as well as the Team Options and Bird Rights claiming period.
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Post by Alex English on Jun 20, 2020 1:10:52 GMT
I haven't seen any in the NBA but plenty of pro athletes have tested positive recently. I'm not sure what the league's tolerances are but I'd have to guess some of these plans are at risk.
With rallies, protests and a general disregard for safety procedures because "freedom" it's clear the US will be dealing with covid for a very long time. If cases and deaths start increasing exponentially again you'd have to think everything will be shut down a second time.
Can we get all the NBA players to Orlando and put them all on lockdown right away? I don't want the NBA to be cancelled again lol.
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Post by George Gervin on Jun 20, 2020 1:17:01 GMT
I haven't seen any in the NBA but plenty of pro athletes have tested positive recently. I'm not sure what the league's tolerances are but I'd have to guess some of these plans are at risk. With rallies, protests and a general disregard for safety procedures because "freedom" it's clear the US will be dealing with covid for a very long time. If cases and deaths start increasing exponentially again you'd have to think everything will be shut down a second time. Can we get all the NBA players to Orlando and put them all on lockdown right away? I don't want the NBA to be cancelled again lol. To me the biggest issue now isn’t can they get them there right away, it’s that Florida is now the newest hotspot. They’re kind of fucked on this decision, but the Overlords at Disney/ESPN will damn sure make them play some games |
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Jun 20, 2020 1:47:51 GMT
There’s just no way this is gonna work IMO. It’s irresponsible to even try, and once they get to Orlando there’s a 100% chance that players are gonna test positive throughout and not be allowed to play. There’s no way anyone ever looks at this champion without an asterisk, especially as key guys miss important games.
It feels to me like a few guys who have a chance to win (Lebron especially) are strong-arming the rest of the league into doing this huge stupid stunt just to be help their legacy. The US doesn’t have coronavirus under control at all and bringing the ~1000+ people together to do this is just wildly irresponsible.
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Post by Amare Stoudemire on Jun 23, 2020 20:03:30 GMT
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Post by George Gervin on Aug 8, 2020 12:32:23 GMT
Per Woj this morning no cap negotiations have begun and the Leagues still waiting on its BRI audit to complete before analyzing the financial hit. He hinted that numbers may be available by end of August but that it could go down to the wire leading up to October FA on cap figures
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Post by Reggie Miller on Aug 11, 2020 4:14:20 GMT
Why is the league in a hurry to talk about next season when the current season hasn't finished yet? If it's due to TV contractual obligations, why not just take a hit for a year/season and right the ship first instead of rushing just to make the 'quota'?
Wasn't it the players who petitioned to have lesser games in the regular season some years back? They should take this opportunity to course correct. And, as you said, if they're after their respective individual legacies (aka all-time stats), I see no difference between incurring spots of DNP-rest in an 82-game season and playing all games in a hypothetical 60-game season.
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Post by George Gervin on Aug 20, 2020 20:20:14 GMT
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Post by Ian Noble on Aug 22, 2020 15:15:33 GMT
Aww jeez  |
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Post by Reggie Miller on Sept 4, 2020 23:59:28 GMT
A few paragraphs in, I'm all for what the article is saying. Sure, European club football has resumed, but that doesn't mean US leagues should do the same considering the situation across both sides of the Atlantic are different. As much as i like a playoff series between the Clippers and Lakers happening at Staples Center, I don't mind having an entire season in the bubble at all. |
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Post by George Gervin on Sept 9, 2020 20:50:50 GMT
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Post by Ian Noble on Sept 10, 2020 15:31:48 GMT
edit: for anyone wondering, yes this does mean our off season and draft are delayed further :/
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Post by Reggie Miller on Sept 11, 2020 2:39:41 GMT
I reckon that if the NBA is really bent on starting the season either in December or January, this would translate to a raucous and quick offseason for us. It would be a silly season in an almost literal sense.
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Post by Ian Noble on Sept 11, 2020 7:44:43 GMT
I reckon that if the NBA is really bent on starting the season either in December or January, this would translate to a raucous and quick offseason for us. It would be a silly season in an almost literal sense. We can take our time with the Off Season though, then transition straight into games afterwards. |
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Post by Ian Noble on Sept 22, 2020 18:00:10 GMT
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/ixqezy/stein_the_nbas_goal_for_202021_is_82_games_plus/
NBA wont start until at least 2021.
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Post by George Gervin on Sept 22, 2020 18:54:12 GMT
https://www.reddit.com/r/nba/comments/ixqezy/stein_the_nbas_goal_for_202021_is_82_games_plus/ NBA wont start until at least 2021. Kawhi let this cat out of the bag at the LAC-DEN series ending presser last week when he alluded to a long layoff, and when someone asked him to clarify he said “I’ve heard March we will be back” Biggest hurdle though is even with a vaccine, large air conditioned spaces with lots of people are proving to be huge transmission risks. Will fans want to be in an arena? |
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Post by Alex English on Sept 22, 2020 21:23:50 GMT
Mark Cuban was on JJ Redick's podcast a few weeks ago and he said he was optimistically hoping for a vaccine to become available and distributed throughout November, December and January, and that an MLK day (January 18) start date with fans was what he had in mind.
I know many vaccine trials have been fast tracked and some have started final phase human trials, but that timeline still seems overly optimistic to me. I think the thing to take away from that is that the NBA is waiting to see if a normal season is possible with fans. To me that means we won't get any concrete news for a while since the NBA will be waiting to see how the virus and vaccines progress.
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Post by Ian Noble on Sept 23, 2020 13:54:13 GMT
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