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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2016 11:52:14 GMT
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Post by Danny Longley on Aug 4, 2016 13:02:21 GMT
Ian Noble, are we actually good to sign these guys already? If so: Year 1: $6,407,208
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2016 13:24:30 GMT
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Post by Ian Noble on Aug 4, 2016 14:14:15 GMT
Ian Noble, are we actually good to sign these guys already? If so: Year 1: $6,407,208 Yes, although I believe Josh Richardson still needs to be created in-game. Whether he's created in time for next season or not is not something I can guarantee, but that doesn't mean he won't be!
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Post by Shaquille O'Neal on Aug 4, 2016 14:15:43 GMT
8,000,000 8,000,000 8,000,000 8,000,000 8,000,000 that escalated Quickly
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Aug 4, 2016 15:17:29 GMT
is there a list of players we can bid on? or is it just anyone we can think of?
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Post by Ian Noble on Aug 4, 2016 16:53:50 GMT
is there a list of players we can bid on? or is it just anyone we can think of? To be absolutely strict about it, nobody should bid on a player that has not yet been added to the FA List! Also Josh Richardson is not yet created in-game either. For this instance I'll let it run its course but it would be a problem if there were loads like this.
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Aug 4, 2016 17:44:07 GMT
He's not a fa he's on the gsw
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Post by Chris Mullin on Aug 4, 2016 18:12:47 GMT
He's not a fa he's on the gsw No he's not anymore. Apparently I missed the deadline to sign him.
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Post by Alex English on Aug 4, 2016 19:29:58 GMT
What will Josh Richardson's rating be? I assume in the low 70s?
If he'll be 70+ then he's supposed to be handled by an RSFA agent. So I'm not sure he should be open for an auction bid like this.
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Post by James Kay on Aug 4, 2016 19:58:11 GMT
Honestly GSW should just get him, the end of OSFA was very ambiguous, I don't think he should be punished for missing a moving arbitrary deadline by like 1-2 days
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Post by JR Wiles on Aug 4, 2016 20:55:42 GMT
No he should not get him!!
Rules are Rules. He signed him days too late by date and after Ian declared OSFA over!!
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Post by Chris Mullin on Aug 4, 2016 21:08:43 GMT
Honestly GSW should just get him, the end of OSFA was very ambiguous, I don't think he should be punished for missing a moving arbitrary deadline by like 1-2 days Yea let's go with what James said
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Post by JR Wiles on Aug 4, 2016 21:26:45 GMT
Honestly GSW should just get him, the end of OSFA was very ambiguous, I don't think he should be punished for missing a moving arbitrary deadline by like 1-2 days Yea let's go with what James said Why the fuck should you have the privilege of signing your guy where the r ule was put in place with the date to sign by and Ian gave everyone e xtended time as it was? Ian declared OSFA Over!! You posted for the guys after Ian did that! I dont care if it was mentioned or not. I wanted to sign Seth Curry who was a FA but he was not created yet and I had to wait. Might be a different situation I understand, but I lost out on signing my guy and then Miami signed him when I was not on or around. Rules are in place and I dont care what GM it is the rules need followed...Even IAN!!!Thats my thought. His contract ran out and he is a Free Agent. He might not be created yet but he is a FA and since he is a FA any GM can still bid on him and any other FA. If the player is CURRENTLY rated 70 or under they can be signed with the top bid in a 24 hour period. If they are over they must find out the Player agent and bid like in Free Agency to the best deal per the PA.Lets not get away from the rules!!!
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Post by Chris Mullin on Aug 4, 2016 22:22:56 GMT
Yea let's go with what James said Why the fuck should you have the privilege of signing your guy where the r ule was put in place with the date to sign by and Ian gave everyone e xtended time as it was? Ian declared OSFA Over!! You posted for the guys after Ian did that! I dont care if it was mentioned or not. I wanted to sign Seth Curry who was a FA but he was not created yet and I had to wait. Might be a different situation I understand, but I lost out on signing my guy and then Miami signed him when I was not on or around. Rules are in place and I dont care what GM it is the rules need followed...Even IAN!!!Thats my thought. His contract ran out and he is a Free Agent. He might not be created yet but he is a FA and since he is a FA any GM can still bid on him and any other FA. If the player is CURRENTLY rated 70 or under they can be signed with the top bid in a 24 hour period. If they are over they must find out the Player agent and bid like in Free Agency to the best deal per the PA.Lets not get away from the rules!!!JR, First off, I would appreciate it if you didn't speak so disrespectfully towards me when it really isn't warranted. We can communicate without cussing at one another. I'm not going to argue with you about this or anyone for that matter. I've already communicated with Ian about it privately and voiced my side of the story. While I don't necessarily agree with his decision he is the boss and whatever he says is what we go by. Ian has obviously made his decision as we stand in a Josh Richardson free agent thread that he has made several comments in already. Therefore I really don't know what you are getting so worked up about. I'm not 100% sure you even know what the situation actually is based on some of your comments. For a myriad of different reasons I don't expect any of the other GMs in this league to support me on this matter regardless of how they actually feel about it. James Kay did show me some support and I appreciate it, so thank you James.
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Aug 4, 2016 22:45:39 GMT
I support JR Trump! Let's build a wall around Golden State and see if he wants to mess with us after that!
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Post by Bryan Colangelo on Aug 5, 2016 0:13:07 GMT
I feel bad for GWS but let's remember Washington didn't pick up the team options on Trey Burke and Lucas Nogueira and Kareem really wanted them back on the team. Ian didn't allow it even though he was a day or so late. I'm for keeping him on Golden State but if Ian says no, I don't blame him as well since he already made an example this offseason.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Aug 5, 2016 0:15:58 GMT
The only thing I'd like to add here, is that I think this deadline is significantly later than it was in the past. I believe that July 1st was the deadline, or rather, June 30th, just last year. A GM had until the season the player was drafted in, was over, to claim and sign their 2nd rounder.
That's why I originally posted in the Richardson signing thread, I thought he was weeks late.
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Post by Chris Mullin on Aug 5, 2016 1:42:55 GMT
I know I just said I wasn't going to debate this, but I want to say a couple of things. The deadline to sign 2nd rounders was initially July 21st which is also the same day OSFA was supposed to end as well as the same day 1st round picks and player's signed on bird rights contracts were supposed to count against your salary cap according to the League Schedule. If we're following the League Schedule to the letter like some are suggesting then ALL of these things should happen on the same day. This day was initially supposed to be July 21st according to the League Schedule. League ScheduleThe end of OSFA was pushed back to August 1st, which apparently also meant that was also the last day to sign 2nd rounders if we're going by how things are laid out on the League Schedule. Sticking with this line of thinking, 1st round draft picks and players signed on bird rights contracts should have kicked in on August 1st as well thus potentially changing several teams available cap space if we're following the League Schedule to the letter. The latter two things were not enforced. The post Ian made regarding OSFA ending stated that no new offers could be made, but player agents would continue with negotiations until their players signed or decided to wait for Regular Season free agency if they didn't get an offer they liked. Nowhere in that post did it say that Regular Season Free Agency would officially begin on August 1st. How can Regular Season Free Agency begin if OSFA is still going on? As long as player agents are still negotiating offers made prior to August 1st it is still part of OSFA. I realize Ian has been away and hasn't been able to update the salaries yet, but they also haven't been updated because some teams are still negotiating with player agents in OSFA. The only rule being enforced by the August 1st deadline is the rule regarding signing 2nd rounders. Meanwhile 1st round picks and Bird Right players salaries still do not count against a team's available cap space here on August 4th. Again if we're following the League Schedule to the letter then everything should have kicked in on August 1st if that was truly the end of OSFA. Not just the cutoff to sign your 2nd round picks. As I said earlier though, Ian is the boss and whatever he decides is what we go by and I will live with that. I just wanted to share my point of view on the situation.
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Post by Jay Z on Aug 5, 2016 1:45:10 GMT
$12,187,851 $10,980,047 $9,891,934 $8,911,652 $8,028,516
$50 mil over 5
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Post by Walt Frazier on Aug 5, 2016 1:47:43 GMT
That's a fair point to bring up Chris. I only meant, sort of a separate and related issue I guess, I'm not sure why the deadline was even related to OSFA ENDING this year, when in the past, I'm pretty sure it was when OSFA BEGAN, you were out of time. Ian's rule has been that you only have until the end of the year the player is drafted. Not, the end of the next offseason after the year the player was drafted has already completed. Why the change, Ian Noble - Or am I really just remembering that differently? Here's where I'm getting my info - dynasty5ive.proboards.com/post/40651/threadAnd here - dynasty5ive.proboards.com/post/39878/threadIt's been a June 30th deadline for 2 years running. I'm not sure why it was changed this year in the first place but...yea.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2016 2:29:15 GMT
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Post by Jay Z on Aug 5, 2016 2:41:03 GMT
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Aug 5, 2016 2:41:29 GMT
is there a list of players we can bid on? or is it just anyone we can think of? To be absolutely strict about it, nobody should bid on a player that has not yet been added to the FA List! Also Josh Richardson is not yet created in-game either. For this instance I'll let it run its course but it would be a problem if there were loads like this. Wait a minute Ian, did you just contradict yourself? Please compare your 1st paragraph to your 2nd paragraph. I think, this should not be allowed I asked you about the availability of the uncreated players before OSFA started and you said they are not.
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Post by Ian Noble on Aug 5, 2016 8:55:43 GMT
Guys I'm going to put a hold on Josh Richardson until I'm back on Monday, it's not a straightforward situation.
Stop bidding for now please, wait until I've been able to take a good look at what's going on.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2016 12:35:29 GMT
Why do people have to be created before they are signed? I'll personally make any builds that someone signs that isn't in the game. When you're making a <70 player it's not like the build matters much anyway.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Aug 5, 2016 13:03:17 GMT
Ian just asked for bidding to stop. I would assume, If Richardson is allowed to be bid on, a new thread will happen.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2016 13:13:38 GMT
Ian just asked for bidding to stop. I would assume, If Richardson is allowed to be bid on, a new thread will happen. That's fine. My previous question is still a thing though, and it's probably the only part of this league I dont like. Free Agency is so restricted to like a few dudes on a list that haven't been on an NBA roster in forever. There are shitloads of guys I'd be signing but they are always "not made" until 2 years after they break out. Why don't we just make people on a basis of: If someone signs them, then we make them?
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Aug 5, 2016 14:04:26 GMT
I think it is just due to the time variable.
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Post by JR Wiles on Aug 5, 2016 14:38:01 GMT
The deadline-date to sign our 2nd rounders was in place!
The rule was to sign you guy before the season when the player was drafted was over.
It was declared MANY times now that July 1 was the beginning of the NEW SEASON! (In many threads including recently those on MLE)
The reason I am so involved is because CERTAIN people try to use their words and power within the group or the veteranship to persuade those who like them to follow or feel for them. THE DATE TO SIGN WAS PASSED AND TO ME PERSONALLY, THIS SHOULD NOT BE A CONVERSATION I HAVE TO WASTE TIME ON HERE OUT. IM DONE.
JR TRUMP
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