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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 0:07:49 GMT
It would also get rid of all the situations where it's unclear how long a player would be out, etc etc. There is literally no downside. Are you saying, essentially, once a player misses 18 games in real life they go on the IR in the sim and then it starts being retroactive? So say someone misses 22 games irl. In d5 they go on the IR at the 18 game mark and then miss 22 games in here? I would be okay with that, but we would still have to consider injuries that are considered significant from the initial diagnosis, right? So, say our rule is 6 weeks and some is said to be out 9, they go on the IR right away, correct? Yeah exactly. I even volunteer to keep track of games missed. I already do for another league. In the current system I've proposed they don't go out right away... Youd miss too many games if you did that since we are behind the real NBA. Jabari should've played 51 games for Ian like real life, not the 30 or so he ended up playing because that's how far along D5 was when he got hurt. It's just more consistent, easier, and more accurate. I don't see why we use this current system. Maybe someone can point out an advantage of the current system over what I've proposed? |
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Post by Ian Noble on Mar 18, 2017 12:09:19 GMT
So if Embiid misses 164 games over two seasons - do you wait until he's missed those games and then take him out?  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 12:16:59 GMT
So if Embiid misses 164 games over two seasons - do you wait until he's missed those games and then take him out? No you'd take him out after he missed the 18 games or whatever, but then keep him out until he misses the amount of games he missed in real life. For example, it looked like Kevin Love was going to be out a long time, but he only missed 13 consecutive games, therefore he misses no time. For the case of Jabari or Embiid instead of removing them immediately like we do here, just remove them after the game number they got hurt in real life. Cleaner Simpler More precise More accurate Better. |
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Mar 18, 2017 15:11:38 GMT
So if Embiid misses 164 games over two seasons - do you wait until he's missed those games and then take him out? No you'd take him out after he missed the 18 games or whatever, but then keep him out until he misses the amount of games he missed in real life. For example, it looked like Kevin Love was going to be out a long time, but he only missed 13 consecutive games, therefore he misses no time. For the case of Jabari or Embiid instead of removing them immediately like we do here, just remove them after the game number they got hurt in real life. Cleaner Simpler More precise More accurate Better. However, I think when an injury is clearly going to make the player be out for a long time, the go on the IR immediately. If not, I think it is a flaw and I would prefer our current sysytem. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 15:33:06 GMT
No you'd take him out after he missed the 18 games or whatever, but then keep him out until he misses the amount of games he missed in real life. For example, it looked like Kevin Love was going to be out a long time, but he only missed 13 consecutive games, therefore he misses no time. For the case of Jabari or Embiid instead of removing them immediately like we do here, just remove them after the game number they got hurt in real life. Cleaner Simpler More precise More accurate Better. However, I think when an injury is clearly going to make the player be out for a long time, the go on the IR immediately. If not, I think it is a flaw and I would prefer our current sysytem. Maybe you're misunderstanding. How is removing a season ending player from the sim for more games than they miss IRL make sense? You say "right away" but you forget we are more than 18 games behind real life! Right away would be early. So if you remove a player right away you're removing him in the sim way before they get hurt IRL! Same number of games missed. Accurate Precise Clean |
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Mar 18, 2017 17:53:42 GMT
However, I think when an injury is clearly going to make the player be out for a long time, the go on the IR immediately. If not, I think it is a flaw and I would prefer our current sysytem. Maybe you're misunderstanding. How is removing a season ending player from the sim for more games than they miss IRL make sense? You say "right away" but you forget we are more than 18 games behind real life! Right away would be early. So if you remove a player right away you're removing him in the sim way before they get hurt IRL! Same number of games missed. Accurate Precise Clean Still wouldn't want it that way. It would have to be a, "he only played 8 games before being injured" type of thing. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 18:07:19 GMT
Maybe you're misunderstanding. How is removing a season ending player from the sim for more games than they miss IRL make sense? You say "right away" but you forget we are more than 18 games behind real life! Right away would be early. So if you remove a player right away you're removing him in the sim way before they get hurt IRL! Same number of games missed. Accurate Precise Clean Still wouldn't want it that way. It would have to be a, "he only played 8 games before being injured" type of thing. So you think it makes more sense to remove a player in the sim before he got injured IRL? Why? |
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Mar 18, 2017 18:22:53 GMT
thats not what I said
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Post by Deleted on Mar 18, 2017 18:46:57 GMT
Okay I see what you're saying. Yeah if someone tore his ACL before the first 18 games of the season just remove them after the game they tear their ACL, not "immediately". |
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Mar 18, 2017 23:46:19 GMT
Okay I see what you're saying. Yeah if someone tore his ACL before the first 18 games of the season just remove them after the game they tear their ACL, not "immediately". I just meant if the guy tears his all after 8 games, make him play 8 games and then put him out, don't give him the extra ten games. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 19, 2017 0:30:25 GMT
Okay I see what you're saying. Yeah if someone tore his ACL before the first 18 games of the season just remove them after the game they tear their ACL, not "immediately". I just meant if the guy tears his all after 8 games, make him play 8 games and then put him out, don't give him the extra ten games. yes, that is what I said in your quoted post here. |
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Post by Ian Noble on Mar 26, 2017 17:50:59 GMT
Allen Iverson - Omer Asik has been out forever. Added him to the list.
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Post by Magic Johnson on Mar 27, 2017 13:40:41 GMT
Reggie Bullock is healthy again  actually he has been for a while. |
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Mar 31, 2017 23:30:01 GMT
Robert Covington done for season
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Post by Kareem Abdul-Jabbar on Apr 1, 2017 3:32:39 GMT
Robert Covington done for season Jahlil Okafor also. ^^ |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 1, 2017 13:32:03 GMT
Zubac out with high ankle sprain
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Apr 2, 2017 17:24:43 GMT
Derrick Rose, welcome home to the IR.
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Apr 2, 2017 17:26:54 GMT
We never added Eric Bledsoe, Luol deng, and Mozgov
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Post by Alex English on Apr 2, 2017 19:40:04 GMT
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Post by Walt Frazier on Apr 2, 2017 22:33:13 GMT
We never added Eric Bledsoe, Luol deng, and Mozgov He's my guy so sure, I'll chime in. Bledsoe has "knee soreness" and didn't want to be shut down. The Suns are also in tank mode and want to see their younger guys more. "Coach Earl Watson called Bledsoe resting a "management decision"" "The Suns are shutting down Eric Bledsoe (knee soreness) for the season. This confirms an earlier report. Bledsoe has been taking it easier in practice and does have a wrap on his leg more often these days. He is under contract for the next two years and is still just 27, so this is somewhat unconventional. Although, the Suns clearly are looking at beyond the 2017-18 season. Bledsoe did take to Twitter after Wednesday's game to drop an unamused face, so he may not be happy about this." I think in the past when it's close to the end of the season, we've looked at "normal missed time" for injuries and if they're less than 6 weeks we don't sit them. I promise if I'm out of the playoffs in Late march Sim-time, we can sit him in here too as a "management decision" to see my younger players play more. |
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Post by Charles Barkley on Apr 3, 2017 3:22:14 GMT
It would also get rid of all the situations where it's unclear how long a player would be out, etc etc. There is literally no downside. Are you saying, essentially, once a player misses 18 games in real life they go on the IR in the sim and then it starts being retroactive? So say someone misses 22 games irl. In d5 they go on the IR at the 18 game mark and then miss 22 games in here? I would be okay with that, but we would still have to consider injuries that are considered significant from the initial diagnosis, right? So, say our rule is 6 weeks and some is said to be out 9, they go on the IR right away, correct? pretty sure this is exactly what i proposed a month ago, in all fairness i got it from adam's league |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2017 11:52:03 GMT
We never added Eric Bledsoe, Luol deng, and Mozgov He's my guy so sure, I'll chime in. Bledsoe has "knee soreness" and didn't want to be shut down. The Suns are also in tank mode and want to see their younger guys more. "Coach Earl Watson called Bledsoe resting a "management decision"" "The Suns are shutting down Eric Bledsoe (knee soreness) for the season. This confirms an earlier report. Bledsoe has been taking it easier in practice and does have a wrap on his leg more often these days. He is under contract for the next two years and is still just 27, so this is somewhat unconventional. Although, the Suns clearly are looking at beyond the 2017-18 season. Bledsoe did take to Twitter after Wednesday's game to drop an unamused face, so he may not be happy about this." I think in the past when it's close to the end of the season, we've looked at "normal missed time" for injuries and if they're less than 6 weeks we don't sit them. I promise if I'm out of the playoffs in Late march Sim-time, we can sit him in here too as a "management decision" to see my younger players play more. Wouldn't it be nice to have a system for this instead of having to make Ian make judgement calls about this that effects people's teams? |
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Post by Ian Noble on Apr 3, 2017 18:39:20 GMT
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Post by JR Wiles on Apr 3, 2017 23:35:33 GMT
Yeah, there goes the playoffs...
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Post by Kareem Abdul-Jabbar on Apr 4, 2017 2:09:42 GMT
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Post by Ian Noble on Apr 4, 2017 17:41:21 GMT
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Post by Ian Noble on Apr 5, 2017 13:39:43 GMT
Adreian Payne was back playing recently
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Post by Bryan Colangelo on Apr 5, 2017 22:14:06 GMT
Ian Noble Lowry is returning tonight for the raps!!!
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Post by Shaquille O'Neal on Apr 7, 2017 4:43:56 GMT
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