Dan Majerle
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Post by Dan Majerle on Jul 7, 2016 18:29:14 GMT
May I ask this one to Ian, are your decision to base on number of post? if your bases on that I might as well post a spam anyware to the forum. Does your requirement needs to be always present to sign-up a player? That's the dumbest answer that I have receive from Jeremiah. Yes it's based on the number of posts you make. /s So you should include in your rule in signing free agents the number of post you have in the forum is part of the basis on every free agent signings. I don't see any NBA reality here in my opinion.
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Post by Ian Noble on Jul 7, 2016 18:35:57 GMT
Yes it's based on the number of posts you make. /s So you should include in your rule in signing free agents the number of post you have in the forum is part of the basis on every free agent signings. I don't see any NBA reality here in my opinion. I was joking.
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Dan Majerle
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Post by Dan Majerle on Jul 7, 2016 18:42:46 GMT
This is not a joke.
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Post by Ian Noble on Jul 7, 2016 18:50:28 GMT
You need to be really careful about what you're saying now Dan.
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Jul 7, 2016 20:29:45 GMT
Just my two cents but if Butler wasn't considering other teams then Kawhi shouldn't have either. Dan traded for him, was loyal to him, and improved his team around him. And then he walked to a team with no apparent roster.
I honestly, 100% believe we should null this signing for the betterment of the league and Kawhi should return to Phoenix. If Dan can't protect a star player with bird rights then the entire idea of the longevity of this league is at risk.
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Vlade Divac
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Post by Vlade Divac on Jul 7, 2016 22:35:34 GMT
I loved how I am ignored throughout this whole thread!
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jul 7, 2016 22:44:09 GMT
If Dan had put as much effort into his pitch as he had the last 12 hours of complaining this wouldn't be an issue. Dan do you realize that you have 115 posts in like 4 years and 25 of them have come in the past 15 hours? You have time to complain but not to form offers? If he signs back in Phoenix everyone would be exactly as butt hurt as they are now but because I had Kawhi sign with an absentee GM who has a shit team and no future draft picks. I tried my best to make the smartest decision I could for the player. So your questioning me as a GM now? do left my team down during the tenure for this team? Do I need to make a 1000 post to make you satisfy? My question for you is your integrity as a PA? you did not answer any of questionable call you made. Is that your best as a PA? how about Jimmy Butler call? Dan is basically implying that he really loss out on Kawhi and he already accepts it.
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jul 7, 2016 22:48:47 GMT
I really hate it when people ask for perfection from other people who are putting up more time, effort and work WITHOUT PAY! Tsk.. Complaining is part of this league but you need to remind yourself that you are attacking a fellow GM and not a service person that you are paying. Back off.
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Vlade Divac
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Post by Vlade Divac on Jul 8, 2016 0:47:02 GMT
You need to be really careful about what you're saying now Dan. He really will ban you bro!
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Post by Ghazny Dimalen on Jul 8, 2016 0:55:41 GMT
Nah don't overpower your authority sir Ian Noble..lmao Sir vlade i think you are invisjble tk this thread.
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Post by Charles Barkley on Jul 8, 2016 7:23:08 GMT
I'll probably make a few more posts, but the the that rubs me the wrong way - personally - was how quickly Jimmy Butler decided to return to the Bulls. As other players have mentioned already, Jeremiah's first response to my bid for Jimmy Butler was that he was loyal to the organization and wasn't going anywhere. At the time, I respected that. Butler has spent his whole career in a winning Chicago environment. But now that it has worked to draw in Kawhi Leonard as well? There was NO ONE ON THE TEAM during this off-season. Only CJ Miles, Gary Harris, and Julius Randle were even under contract. Yet somehow, it was never in doubt that Butler and Paul would return. Which allowed him to somehow draw in Kawhi. From the same PA. Now we wait for Shane to waive the hold of Noah and Afflalo and pursue a max contract big... somehow this team was given every benefit of the doubt. Yes, I loved being told all free agency that there was no talent on my team, when the Bulls who had no one signed landed the most important free agent of the past 3 years. Talent needs to be on the roster, imo. I had a better team on paper than the Bulls after the draft, yet was asked questions about the talent on my team when I spoke with every single PA. And I answered those questions. And answered them. And answered them. And then lost out because I didn't have enough talent. Well shit. The Bulls had a shit load of cap space and no talent. I have more cap space, and more talent. But I lost on Russell, Kemba, Kawhi, and others who haven't been announced yet, because I did not have the talent. Do you see the hypocrisy here? I'm very glad james brought this up, because I felt like an idiot thinking and talking about it to myself at work.
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Post by Charles Barkley on Jul 8, 2016 7:26:43 GMT
You put a lot of effort in also, I just didn't think through every single offer. I would have rather this took an extra WEEK, hell two weeks, if it meant I got ONE response to my offers and just knew where I stood in any way. Also, I know you all debated a lot amongst yourselves, but it feels a lot better as a bidder, to do more of that arguing and debating yourself. I would have liked to know I could have given you more to think about. Or to know that I was simply a "top4" offer or even if I was probably eliminated quickly because I apparently am not ready to win yet. Making the playoffs without Bledsoe or Okafor. If just feels shitty to not get any response for 5 days to something that was probably pages worth of typing. Just give me a "Hi Walt, thanks for the offer! There's a lot to think about here, as in many of our other offers. My gut instinct says you have a chance at Kawhi. How do you see your wing depth shaking out? Do you think you're really going to win more games than 'x'?" I could have talked about a trade for Blake Griffin I was considering. I want to win. That's why I wanted Kawhi. I could have explained that Jae Crowder does not have BR's, and I have no other SF on the roster as far as I'm concerned. And, explained that guys like Jae being a threat to Kawhi is equivalent to a 65 rated player taking minutes from an 80. It shouldn't have even been a factor but apparently was. Frustrating to get no responses. Thought that was a big sticking point for you in the OSFA board. You didn't get responses because that shit didn't matter. None of it mattered Walt. It doesn't matter that Chris Paul is in HIS FUCKING THIRTIES and Kawhi is just now 25. It doesn't matter who the best player on your roster is, because Shane signed Kawhi with JULIUS RANDLE as his. And I'm a big OJ da Juice Man fan but fuck me . It doesn't mattter if Kawhi's peak meshed with your key player's peak. It doesn't matter if stylistically Kawhi doesn't fit, BECAUSE JIMMY BUTLER DOES ESSENTIALLY THE SAME THING AT THE SAME POSITION.
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Post by Charles Barkley on Jul 8, 2016 7:29:36 GMT
I'm chatting to Jeremiah about Jimmy Butler, I might take on those negotiations just to ease all the work he's got on top of all this anger. Direct your anger at me here guys, I oversaw the Jimmy Butler thread but didn't read it enough to see the responses that were being given after initial offers were being sent. Clearly the Bulls are frontrunners to re-sign him, even without Kawhi, so I can understand why that message went out from Jeremiah, but there should have been more possibility for maneuver and all options should be explored. If Jimmy Butler's your biggest complaint about this Kawhi Leonard signing then that's not so bad. what the fuck are you talking about, i literally messaged you about this on the 2nd of july. How did you not bother to go in and look then? fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
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Post by Charles Barkley on Jul 8, 2016 7:31:52 GMT
Just my two cents but if Butler wasn't considering other teams then Kawhi shouldn't have either. Dan traded for him, was loyal to him, and improved his team around him. And then he walked to a team with no apparent roster. I honestly, 100% believe we should null this signing for the betterment of the league and Kawhi should return to Phoenix. If Dan can't protect a star player with bird rights then the entire idea of the longevity of this league is at risk. I feel like anyone who has half a brain saw this coming though. Anyone who has interacted with Dan would have bet money he would have fucked his offer up. I agree with Jeremiah not giving him to Dan after reading Dan's offer. I don't agree with him going to Chicago, especially with no one on their roster.
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jul 8, 2016 9:51:29 GMT
I'm chatting to Jeremiah about Jimmy Butler, I might take on those negotiations just to ease all the work he's got on top of all this anger. Direct your anger at me here guys, I oversaw the Jimmy Butler thread but didn't read it enough to see the responses that were being given after initial offers were being sent. Clearly the Bulls are frontrunners to re-sign him, even without Kawhi, so I can understand why that message went out from Jeremiah, but there should have been more possibility for maneuver and all options should be explored. If Jimmy Butler's your biggest complaint about this Kawhi Leonard signing then that's not so bad. what the fuck are you talking about, i literally messaged you about this on the 2nd of july. How did you not bother to go in and look then? fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk Because it is not his job to do so.... (General Message) The PAs are not meant to be perfect. They are giving you free services. This is getting crazy already because majority of you don't have the BALLS to accept that PAs decision is objective and you will not be favored everytime. So, if this is real life and a PA went with KD's decision to join in GSW, I am pretty sure we will reach at least 10 pages of rants. FA decisions are not mathematical equations that you put values to your teammates ratings, team situation and blah blah blah and then the highest number will be the choice. Do you think every decision in real life is the right one?? NO!!!! There are more crazy decisions in real life than here! So, how about buying some BALLS somewhere and remind yourself again that this PAs are not being paid to serve you and instead of bitching and ranting LIKE YOU ARE A CUSTOMER HERE, accept it and HELP IN CONTEMPLATING IN IMPROVING THE LEAGUE.
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Post by Charles Barkley on Jul 8, 2016 17:24:15 GMT
what the fuck are you talking about, i literally messaged you about this on the 2nd of july. How did you not bother to go in and look then? fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk Because it is not his job to do so.... (General Message) The PAs are not meant to be perfect. They are giving you free services. This is getting crazy already because majority of you don't have the BALLS to accept that PAs decision is objective and you will not be favored everytime. So, if this is real life and a PA went with KD's decision to join in GSW, I am pretty sure we will reach at least 10 pages of rants. FA decisions are not mathematical equations that you put values to your teammates ratings, team situation and blah blah blah and then the highest number will be the choice. Do you think every decision in real life is the right one?? NO!!!! There are more crazy decisions in real life than here! So, how about buying some BALLS somewhere and remind yourself again that this PAs are not being paid to serve you and instead of bitching and ranting LIKE YOU ARE A CUSTOMER HERE, accept it and HELP IN CONTEMPLATING IN IMPROVING THE LEAGUE. It isn't the commissioner's job to look into something when a GM brings it up in a very important time? Had Ian looked at the replies like he said he could, which I had assumed he could which is why I sent the message in the first place, I think some things would have gone differently in the Jimmy Butler saga. I don't know if you missunderstood what I was talking about or what, but when I got a response that I felt was terrible as a first response on the 1st day of free agency, I messaged Ian about it, hoping that he would look in to it. He asked me if I wanted him to say something to him. I didn't want to outright say yeah you need to, because I figured he would at least take my concern and look in to it and do his due diligence. Now we come to see that literally everyone who messaged Jeremiah about Jimmy Butler got the same, shitty response. You know its funny how you say that PAs aren't being paid to serve us and we shouldn't be bitching and that we need balls. Its funny because this same outrage and attitude is displayed throughout the year, in this league, to Walt Frazier and sometimes myself in the Ratings Committee. We don't get fucking paid to do that shit. But if the ratings aren't in soon, we hear it. If someone feels the numbers are wrong, we hear it. If someone feels the slightest inclination of anything about the ratings and how they are done, we hear it. We don't get fucking paid for that shit either. And it takes up a good portion of time to do, a lot longer of time that to read a fucking response, say thank you, Jimmy will consider your team. So how about you quit telling people how to act and how to be. Chances are if there's a serious amount of outrage for something, it is deserved. People don't become mad over things for no reason. This is arguably the most important free agent class and most important free agent position in D5's history, and I believe that it got fucked up. Getting one response when I sent Kawhi at least a message a day for 7 days, is pretty terrible. If you didn't have the time to be a Player Agent, you shouldn't have been one, plain and simple. 3
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Jul 8, 2016 18:56:41 GMT
I'm usually with you hanaminchi the PAs do a great job 99% of the time and there's no dispute they're underappeciated. However in this case I just can't get over this decision. It literally changes the fabric of the league forever. If you can get cap space you can get the highest level free agent no problem without a promise of people either signing there before or talented players already under contract. I'd have no problem with this if jimmy and Chris had a spirited free agency and decided they would return and THEN kawhi chose them. I'd disagree but whatever that's fine. But when he goes without those guys promising, that's messed up imo and has the potential to kill league parity. If average to slightly above average teams like Dan's can't keep their bird rights free agents what's the point? Should he just sell off Levine now too? Only go with draft picks? 25 teams might as well tank and let the super teams figure it out. They're gonna take our good bird rights free agents anyway.
I get why Dan was rejected and that was not a serious offer he made, gms need to put in more effort. I know I and many others here put in at least more than that, including magic who was mad about that post!
That said I agree with Barber, kawhi needs to be returned to the suns for the health of the league. If he leaves Phoenix is dead. That franchise won't make the playoffs for 3,4 years minimum and will be one of the worst in the league. I see this like a trade veto we need to protect this franchise from a GM's incompetentcy. I'd be sad to see another team with no hope to improve for the future, not to mention how this affects other bird rights free agents and destroys the interest level in the league. Overall this decision just does too much damage to stand.
Again just my opinion
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Jul 8, 2016 19:00:08 GMT
Also this opinion isn't self serving at all. I don't have any bird rights free agents coming up for years. It's just what I think is best for the league
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Post by JR Wiles on Jul 8, 2016 19:18:47 GMT
I'm usually with you hanaminchi the PAs do a great job 99% of the time and there's no dispute they're underappeciated. However in this case I just can't get over this decision. It literally changes the fabric of the league forever. If you can get cap space you can get the highest level free agent no problem without a promise of people either signing there before or talented players already under contract. I'd have no problem with this if jimmy and Chris had a spirited free agency and decided they would return and THEN kawhi chose them. I'd disagree but whatever that's fine. But when he goes without those guys promising, that's messed up imo and has the potential to kill league parity. If average to slightly above average teams like Dan's can't keep their bird rights free agents what's the point? Should he just sell off Levine now too? Only go with draft picks? 25 teams might as well tank and let the super teams figure it out. They're gonna take our good bird rights free agents anyway. I get why Dan was rejected and that was not a serious offer he made, gms need to put in more effort. I know I and many others here put in at least more than that, including magic who was mad about that post! That said I agree with Barber, kawhi needs to be returned to the suns for the health of the league. If he leaves Phoenix is dead. That franchise won't make the playoffs for 3,4 years minimum and will be one of the worst in the league. I see this like a trade veto we need to protect this franchise from a GM's incompetentcy. I'd be sad to see another team with no hope to improve for the future, not to mention how this affects other bird rights free agents and destroys the interest level in the league. Overall this decision just does too much damage to stand. Again just my opinion ----------- I agree with everything said above. Leonard should return for the future of our league.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jul 8, 2016 19:29:29 GMT
I'll have more to say about this after free agency is concluded as I don't want to interfere with other's offers. Until then I stand by my decision.
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Spike Lee
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Post by Spike Lee on Jul 8, 2016 22:55:50 GMT
For what it's worth... i agree with Brian. At least rescind the decision and reconsider AFTER Butler situation is cleared up.
Like most others have said, this is the most important part of the year for this league. We deserve the right to ask for this to be done with the utmost attention to detail and due diligence as possible.
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jul 8, 2016 23:02:03 GMT
I'm usually with you hanaminchi the PAs do a great job 99% of the time and there's no dispute they're underappeciated. However in this case I just can't get over this decision. It literally changes the fabric of the league forever. If you can get cap space you can get the highest level free agent no problem without a promise of people either signing there before or talented players already under contract. I'd have no problem with this if jimmy and Chris had a spirited free agency and decided they would return and THEN kawhi chose them. I'd disagree but whatever that's fine. But when he goes without those guys promising, that's messed up imo and has the potential to kill league parity. If average to slightly above average teams like Dan's can't keep their bird rights free agents what's the point? Should he just sell off Levine now too? Only go with draft picks? 25 teams might as well tank and let the super teams figure it out. They're gonna take our good bird rights free agents anyway. I get why Dan was rejected and that was not a serious offer he made, gms need to put in more effort. I know I and many others here put in at least more than that, including magic who was mad about that post! That said I agree with Barber, kawhi needs to be returned to the suns for the health of the league. If he leaves Phoenix is dead. That franchise won't make the playoffs for 3,4 years minimum and will be one of the worst in the league. I see this like a trade veto we need to protect this franchise from a GM's incompetentcy. I'd be sad to see another team with no hope to improve for the future, not to mention how this affects other bird rights free agents and destroys the interest level in the league. Overall this decision just does too much damage to stand. Again just my opinion That is the point actually. Kawhi is planning to return but Dan messed it up. S About your proposal, there is another angle to take on. How about the GMs on th other side, Shane Battier? He put up the work and fortunately, Dan let Kawhi go and he got the loot. And I don't agree that PHX is bound for hell already. They still have Goran, who will have a free reign in real life. If they bottom out this year and got a good rookie, that's two building blocks. Then, they have tradeable assets in Zach and Taj. If you look closely, PHX's situation is still much better than WAS or even my team.
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jul 8, 2016 23:03:36 GMT
For what it's worth... i agree with Brian. At least rescind the decision and reconsider AFTER Butler situation is cleared up. Like most others have said, this is the most important part of the year for this league. We deserve the right to ask for this to be done with the utmost attention to detail and due diligence as possible. We don't have the right to ask for that. UNLESS WE ARE PAYING THEM.
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Spike Lee
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Post by Spike Lee on Jul 8, 2016 23:12:18 GMT
For what it's worth... i agree with Brian. At least rescind the decision and reconsider AFTER Butler situation is cleared up. Like most others have said, this is the most important part of the year for this league. We deserve the right to ask for this to be done with the utmost attention to detail and due diligence as possible. We don't have the right to ask for that. UNLESS WE ARE PAYING THEM. will you please give the 'unless we pay them' thing a fucking break? we all care about the league and want it to be the best it can be. I joined this league bc its supposedly one of the best sim leagues in the world. yet, we fuck up the most important part of a season in the most fucked up way possible? fuck that. I don't accept that, regardless of how much I'm not paying them, bc its common God damn sense whats at stake. also idk where you live, but I live in America, where there is this beautiful thing called freedom of MOTHERFUCKING speech. that means I can say whatever the fuck i want.
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jul 8, 2016 23:19:05 GMT
Because it is not his job to do so.... (General Message) The PAs are not meant to be perfect. They are giving you free services. This is getting crazy already because majority of you don't have the BALLS to accept that PAs decision is objective and you will not be favored everytime. So, if this is real life and a PA went with KD's decision to join in GSW, I am pretty sure we will reach at least 10 pages of rants. FA decisions are not mathematical equations that you put values to your teammates ratings, team situation and blah blah blah and then the highest number will be the choice. Do you think every decision in real life is the right one?? NO!!!! There are more crazy decisions in real life than here! So, how about buying some BALLS somewhere and remind yourself again that this PAs are not being paid to serve you and instead of bitching and ranting LIKE YOU ARE A CUSTOMER HERE, accept it and HELP IN CONTEMPLATING IN IMPROVING THE LEAGUE. It isn't the commissioner's job to look into something when a GM brings it up in a very important time? Had Ian looked at the replies like he said he could, which I had assumed he could which is why I sent the message in the first place, I think some things would have gone differently in the Jimmy Butler saga. I don't know if you missunderstood what I was talking about or what, but when I got a response that I felt was terrible as a first response on the 1st day of free agency, I messaged Ian about it, hoping that he would look in to it. He asked me if I wanted him to say something to him. I didn't want to outright say yeah you need to, because I figured he would at least take my concern and look in to it and do his due diligence. Now we come to see that literally everyone who messaged Jeremiah about Jimmy Butler got the same, shitty response. You know its funny how you say that PAs aren't being paid to serve us and we shouldn't be bitching and that we need balls. Its funny because this same outrage and attitude is displayed throughout the year, in this league, to Walt Frazier and sometimes myself in the Ratings Committee. We don't get fucking paid to do that shit. But if the ratings aren't in soon, we hear it. If someone feels the numbers are wrong, we hear it. If someone feels the slightest inclination of anything about the ratings and how they are done, we hear it. We don't get fucking paid for that shit either. And it takes up a good portion of time to do, a lot longer of time that to read a fucking response, say thank you, Jimmy will consider your team. So how about you quit telling people how to act and how to be. Chances are if there's a serious amount of outrage for something, it is deserved. People don't become mad over things for no reason. This is arguably the most important free agent class and most important free agent position in D5's history, and I believe that it got fucked up. Getting one response when I sent Kawhi at least a message a day for 7 days, is pretty terrible. If you didn't have the time to be a Player Agent, you shouldn't have been one, plain and simple. 3 What gave you the right to be outrage? What gave you the right to ask for perfection from them? (General Message) In real life, decisions are not perfect either, so why ask for it here? Again, we are talking about a fellow GM here. Why can't the majority of you even have the balls to talk them properly and without animosity? Who are we in the first place. We are all in equal footing here. Those who take the responsibility of PA, TC and RC are sacrificing time, effort and brain cells and yet you treat them as your service crews in a restaurant. Maybe you are perfect? No, maybe you really want the Free Agency to be a simple math calculation where we put values and just compute the decision of the player.
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Spike Lee
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Post by Spike Lee on Jul 8, 2016 23:22:07 GMT
hanamichi, we are not asking for perfection. we are asking for competency. its not hard.
how can you say that we are asking for perfection when it was fucked up literally the exact same way last year?
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jul 8, 2016 23:22:22 GMT
We don't have the right to ask for that. UNLESS WE ARE PAYING THEM. will you please give the 'unless we pay them' thing a fucking break? we all care about the league and want it to be the best it can be. I joined this league bc its supposedly one of the best sim leagues in the world. yet, we fuck up the most important part of a season in the most fucked up way possible? fuck that. I don't accept that, regardless of how much I'm not paying them, bc its common God damn sense whats at stake. also idk where you live, but I live in America, where there is this beautiful thing called freedom of MOTHERFUCKING speech. that means I can say whatever the fuck i want. How can you even say that you care about the league if you are just BITCHING? A league is build around people who have emotions just like you are.
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Post by Spike Lee on Jul 8, 2016 23:27:46 GMT
will you please give the 'unless we pay them' thing a fucking break? we all care about the league and want it to be the best it can be. I joined this league bc its supposedly one of the best sim leagues in the world. yet, we fuck up the most important part of a season in the most fucked up way possible? fuck that. I don't accept that, regardless of how much I'm not paying them, bc its common God damn sense whats at stake. also idk where you live, but I live in America, where there is this beautiful thing called freedom of MOTHERFUCKING speech. that means I can say whatever the fuck i want. How can you even say that you care about the league if you are just BITCHING? A league is build around people who have emotions just like you are. lol bitching? are you even aware of what I've said? the only thing I said was i support Brian's thoughts. If anything, I'm most annoyed at the fact youre telling people how to feel and act. we're not children.
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jul 8, 2016 23:33:53 GMT
How can you even say that you care about the league if you are just BITCHING? A league is build around people who have emotions just like you are. lol bitching? are you even aware of what I've said?the only thing I said was i support Brian's thoughts. If anything, I'm most annoyed at the fact youre telling people how to feel and act. we're not children. yep. sorry for that. That is not for you.
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Post by Alex English on Jul 9, 2016 0:01:43 GMT
hanamichi, we are not asking for perfection. we are asking for competency. its not hard. how can you say that we are asking for perfection when it was fucked up literally the exact same way last year? It's kind of funny to read stuff like this. It's just so obvious, and if only we were competent we'd all get through this without a single hiccup, right? But, if we took a league poll, how many people would sign Kawhi with Phoenix, how many with Charlotte, how many with Chicago? How many to another team altogether? So there's lots of agreement that we're stupid and incompetent, yet little agreement of where Kawhi should have signed. Well those two things don't really match up do they? If all of you 'its not hard' and 'just be competent' people got in a room together to decide where Kawhi would sign, then I guarantee there would be disagreement, and I guarantee that 'not hard' solution would require a ton of debate and if you argued the same way there as here then some of you might start getting pissed at each other. Would you end up coming to the conclusion that everyone is stupid but you? For everyone that can't get over how unrealistic this signing is, I suggest you have a quick visit to nba.com. You'll see Kevin Durant in a Warriors jersey. Imagine that happened here. Imagine how fucking crazy you would all get. If you really want to consider this fully, you'll come to see that Kawhi going to the Bulls makes a lot of sense. Even if you personally disagree and would have decided on another team, Kawhi to the Bulls still has a lot of merit. So can we give it a rest please? This doesn't have to happen after every major free agency decision. Lets all lighten up a little bit.
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