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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2015 4:13:17 GMT
Current Rating: 84
Suggested Rating: 78
Right? 84 is crazy, right?
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Nov 7, 2015 15:26:14 GMT
I don't care what has rated as long as he shoots sub 50% and fairly bad in FTs. He just got a double double last night with rebounds in only 24 minutes.
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Post by Ian Noble on Nov 7, 2015 15:53:33 GMT
I still love Rondo, I don't see why he gets a decrease. Back when he was averaging a triple-double during the Playoffs I would've made a case that he was an 89 or 90, but now that he's a mere mortal I don't see why he's lower than 80.
Keep him at 84 imho.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2015 16:37:56 GMT
So guards that shoot less than 40% and less than 35% FT and occasionally get a double double are rated an 84?
Anyone want to stack up Rondos numbers (both this year and last year) against people rated lower than him? I figured it was a given that 84 is egregiously too high for him.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2015 16:39:07 GMT
Like how does anyone justify rondo being rated higher than tyreke Evans or kemba walker? They get just as many assists and rebounds, triples his point total, and shoot drastically better from the floor and the stripe.
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Nov 7, 2015 17:08:18 GMT
80
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Post by Alex English on Nov 7, 2015 19:45:23 GMT
I don't believe Rondo is an 84, but we're six games into the season. Their play doesn't mean a thing yet. We need to wait until we get like 20 games minimum to start to draw conclusions.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Nov 7, 2015 20:09:48 GMT
What Alex said, its why we wait so long to start the season as well.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 7, 2015 21:14:34 GMT
I don't believe Rondo is an 84, but we're six games into the season. Their play doesn't mean a thing yet. We need to wait until we get like 20 games minimum to start to draw conclusions. I am only making threads for the people that were also terrible the year before as well. |
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Nov 8, 2015 14:18:40 GMT
84
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Post by Ian Noble on Nov 8, 2015 14:58:49 GMT
Had 14/12/15 game last night.
84 I say! Don't move him!
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Nov 8, 2015 16:04:16 GMT
I will say this. I'm not against people putting in Stock Watch threads on guys who are continuing a trend from last season. If they turn it around before the start of our season then just throw it out.
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Nov 9, 2015 5:45:49 GMT
I know Rondo has stats but when hes on the floor the King's O looks worse than when he's off
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Post by Ian Noble on Nov 15, 2015 14:19:18 GMT
Rondo's now had 3 triple-doubles in a week. Get off his ass guys!  |
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Nov 15, 2015 21:32:19 GMT
Rondo's now had 3 triple-doubles in a week. Get off his ass guys! He still needs his FT to be the same as like Deandre Jordan though. |
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Nov 16, 2015 14:27:42 GMT
Who wins in a game of horse, DeAndre Jordan or Tristan Thompson? All shot attempts must be at least 8 feet away from the hoop.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Nov 17, 2015 1:39:24 GMT
Probably Tristan just based on his shooting motion.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Nov 17, 2015 3:25:07 GMT
Actually I vote 85.
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Post by Mike Krzyzewski on Nov 17, 2015 13:34:05 GMT
No change.
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Post by Ian Noble on Nov 19, 2015 9:14:31 GMT
4th trip-dub in 5 games.
I'd honestly give him an 87 right now.
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Nov 19, 2015 14:44:24 GMT
I'd caution against evaluating empty stats kings are still trash
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Post by Glenn Robinson on Nov 19, 2015 17:40:49 GMT
I'd honestly give him an 87 right now.  |
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Post by Ian Noble on Nov 19, 2015 21:52:22 GMT
I'd honestly give him an 87 right now. I'll show myself out.  |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 20, 2015 20:28:42 GMT
ROND========================O
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jan 2, 2016 1:14:49 GMT
So, I'm doing some ratings work. Looking at Rondo, and this thread would take him down to an 82. But, looking at his individual numbers, I really can't "allow/support" this. Yes, his Passing/Dribbling are already at insane levels, same as his steal and awarenesses. But, at one point or another we took his 3PT SO FAR down, it now needs to be brought up a bit, and I can't execute that while taking him down two OVR points. In conjunction with some other areas (his rebounding #'s really aren't high enough in his ratings, at all, tbh), I'm almost having trouble keeping him at an 84 and not raising him.
So, since he needs a look-see based on his current ratings, I'm gonna keep him at an 84 but give him a work-over. You'll see the results when we're done.
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jan 2, 2016 1:33:33 GMT
So, I'm doing some ratings work. Looking at Rondo, and this thread would take him down to an 82. But, looking at his individual numbers, I really can't "allow/support" this. Yes, his Passing/Dribbling are already at insane levels, same as his steal and awarenesses. But, at one point or another we took his 3PT SO FAR down, it now needs to be brought up a bit, and I can't execute that while taking him down two OVR points. In conjunction with some other areas (his rebounding #'s really aren't high enough in his ratings, at all, tbh), I'm almost having trouble keeping him at an 84 and not raising him. So, since he needs a look-see based on his current ratings, I'm gonna keep him at an 84 but give him a work-over. You'll see the results when we're done. Thanks for your effort Walt! |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2016 21:00:00 GMT
This is dumb, we voted him an 82 but now our votes don't matter? He might put up stats, but they are empty stats, thus why people are voting to lower him. One person's opinion does not trump the votes of the entire league. The RC is already sketchy enough by tricking GMs and moving the ghost 'injury' rating up and down to impact the player's overall, but this takes it to a whole new level. The ghost rating gets re edited to 70 each time, or at least it should be. Only in older changes/builds is it different than 70. |
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Post by Alex English on Jan 2, 2016 21:11:12 GMT
Yea what is this? We can't open the door where Walt can just ignore the votes. If Rondo is first, who's next? And how often will this start happening? As long as our system is one where we average out all the votes, then we have to go with the votes, no matter what. It doesn't really matter if one person thinks some ratings are off.
If we'll go down that road then just let me independently set the ratings for all the players, I think I'd do a better job than giving everyone a fair vote. Ya'll don't know what you're talking about. So give me the role of stockwatch dictator. Deal?
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Post by Alex English on Jan 2, 2016 21:24:29 GMT
I haven't even voted, a lot of other haven't as well. I'd give Rondo an 83 right now. He's having his best season in years. He's still one of the worst shooting point guards of this generation though, and the Kings suck.
So the votes are:
78, 79, 80, 83, 84, 85, 87 = 82.2
Rondo is still at an 82.
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Post by Kareem Abdul-Jabbar on Jan 2, 2016 22:58:47 GMT
81 ^^
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