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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2014 0:38:52 GMT
Pelicans Trade:
79 Shane Battier $3,270,000
77 Troy Murphy $1,000,000 $1,000,000
75 Omri Casspi $3,313,480
2016 #2 New Orleans
Spurs Trade:
75 Josh Childress $7,182,500 $7,317,500
2017 SAS 1st
We accept this deal. We are doing this to free up more cap space to hopefully resign Thomas. We also get two more legit vets that can help now in Battier and Murphy. We lose another first but it's worth it to get these two guys and free up cap space. We do though gain a 2nd.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2014 0:40:25 GMT
If need be we will release DJ White.
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Post by James Kay on Mar 26, 2014 0:44:32 GMT
this is a no-brainer reject. I don't see why you even bothered posting it
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2014 0:51:13 GMT
Whys that?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2014 0:53:30 GMT
It's a fair trade. Don't start shit. My team can win against almost any team. This helps us both...
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2014 1:04:56 GMT
You have the worst team in the league. I don't care how many picks you have. What's Wiggins going to help you do? Make the playoffs...I think not. From what I've seen personally I think he's still raw and it will be a few years before he shows any signs of greatness at all. I'm here to win. Not sure why most of you wouldn't be.
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Post by Phil Jackson on Mar 26, 2014 1:13:26 GMT
I think this trade is too much...It has to be rejected...This trade is too obvious...Made it realistic for the league
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2014 1:16:09 GMT
Oh god. This is why I didn't want you as an assistant. How is this not realistic? Please unless your a CM don't comment. Thanks
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Post by Phil Jackson on Mar 26, 2014 1:19:29 GMT
I'm just commenting sir. Sorry. Why would anyone give a better defensive player like Shane Battier to a Josh Childress type? and how would you know that your pick is top 5 pick? Do you think a real GM will accept that trade?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2014 1:24:39 GMT
The Spurs are horrible. Ask around... but nothing against you. You just don't understand. But he gets a first for expirings. It's fair.
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Post by Bryan Colangelo on Mar 26, 2014 1:42:48 GMT
you think 7 million in cap space can get Thomas re-sign?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2014 1:47:13 GMT
Before this trade I'm at 60 mil next season. I'll work it out. If not I'll have cap to sign players.
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Post by Bryan Colangelo on Mar 26, 2014 1:49:09 GMT
you have 5 million in MLE if you are over the salary cap. You are telling me, 2 million dollars is worth a 1st rounder in 2017?
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Mar 26, 2014 1:51:26 GMT
I accept this trade as I don't have cap space next season anyways. Im looking to take contracts that expire in 2015 while gathering assets and this fits that perfectly. None of the players I gave up are in my future plans.
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Mar 26, 2014 1:54:07 GMT
If any Trade Committee members have questions I'm happy to answer them
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2014 1:55:35 GMT
I want to win now! I tried trading him only because I've had bad luck trying to resign to build or contend. Then that failed. I've always wanted to keep him but I don't trust anyone. So my Outlook is to win and go from there. I have time to get more cap space. Our goal is to make the playoffs. The rest will fall into place. And if you haven't noticed I don't care for picks. At least I'm consistent. And I do get a second here.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Mar 26, 2014 2:06:38 GMT
Spurs is giving up a 1st for two mediocre NBA players and a retired NBA player who will need to be on his roster for 2 years.
Spurs are already too low on talent, can't allow this.
Reject
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Post by James Kay on Mar 26, 2014 2:10:16 GMT
You have the worst team in the league. I don't care how many picks you have. What's Wiggins going to help you do? Make the playoffs...I think not. From what I've seen personally I think he's still raw and it will be a few years before he shows any signs of greatness at all. I'm here to win. Not sure why most of you wouldn't be. Yeah, I do. So I will get a top pick. I'll also have 30 million in cap space. A player like Wiggins would be nice but he's not integral to my plans by any means. You're trading away a first round pick for a rental of Shane Battier, Omri Casspri, and two years of Troy Murphy (lol). I just think that a first round pick is too much to clear 6 mil in cap space. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2014 2:12:26 GMT
Seriously Walt I'm here to win. The trades fair. I'm so tired of bullshit rejects. If you think they are average players ok but they will help me win now.
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Post by Bryan Colangelo on Mar 26, 2014 2:12:47 GMT
So you feel, Battier and Troy Murphy who are mediocre players and who will likely play on the bench for 1 season is worth giving up a pick. Listen i get that you dont care for your picks, but what i am trying to say is that you could possible trade more players with long term salary along with that pick to get more cap room.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2014 2:16:14 GMT
So you feel, Battier and Troy Murphy who are mediocre players and who will likely play on the bench for 1 season is worth giving up a pick. Listen i get that you dont care for your picks, but what i am trying to say is that you could possible trade more players with long term salary along with that pick to get more cap room. could but it's my team and I choose not too. And my team as is will finish the season ahead of your walt. Let me run my team. |
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Post by James Kay on Mar 26, 2014 2:17:42 GMT
Seriously Walt I'm here to win. The trades fair. I'm so tired of bullshit rejects. If you think they are average players ok but they will help me win now. I feel like you might not understand how this works... or you are trolling so hard. In what world are these players going to help you "win now" ?! Right now, the best player on your team is Mike Miller. MIKE. MILLER. Maybe IT deserves a slightly higher rating, a starting 5 of: IT Mike Miller Trevor Ariza Andray Blatche Al Harrington is not going to win ANYTHING. Battier, Murphy, and Casspi are drops in the bucket to your trainwreck of a team. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2014 2:22:47 GMT
Seriously Walt I'm here to win. The trades fair. I'm so tired of bullshit rejects. If you think they are average players ok but they will help me win now. I feel like you might not understand how this works... or you are trolling so hard. In what world are these players going to help you "win now" ?! Right now, the best player on your team is Mike Miller. MIKE. MILLER. Maybe IT deserves a slightly higher rating, a starting 5 of: IT Mike Miller Trevor Ariza Andray Blatche Al Harrington is not going to win ANYTHING. Battier, Murphy, and Casspi are drops in the bucket to your trainwreck of a team. I don't give a shit. Tired of other GMs running my team. Might as well just release Thomas now... |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 26, 2014 2:23:30 GMT
And that's not my roster anyway..dumbass
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Post by Bryan Colangelo on Mar 26, 2014 2:26:35 GMT
JR, you just went from
1) Trading Josh to get cap space to re-sign Thomas - Which i understand.
2) Trading for these two players to win now and get cap space - Which i understand, but doesn't really make sense since these two players are old.
3) Trading for these two players and not caring for cap space. - Now i am confused since you just said you could trade more players with long term salary with that draft pick, to get more cap space.
Which is it? i thought you wanted Cap space and you say "I choose not too"
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Post by Walt Frazier on Mar 26, 2014 2:29:40 GMT
JR I'm sorry, but I always value based on real life. Battier, Murphy (retired) and Casspi are worth just about nothing. A 1st Round Pick is worth a good amount. A 1st Round Pick for a team with a bunch of has-beens and mediocre players (other than IT2) is worth Gold.
Your team's future is bad. Very. Bad. Not going to mince words with you JR, it's how I feel, all the evidence points that way. Bad team right now, this trade makes your franchise worse. Bad managing.
Big REJECT.
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Post by James Kay on Mar 26, 2014 3:31:31 GMT
And that's not my roster anyway..dumbass You're right, my bad. But Mike Miller is still the highest rated player on your team. Also, chill. |
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Post by Dan Majerle on Mar 26, 2014 12:35:21 GMT
I think this is 50-50 for me since you will never know the positioning in 2017 pick of San Antonio and throwing it for an expiring contracts and which probably help in the current season also which saves him around 6M for the next season.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Mar 26, 2014 12:46:25 GMT
I think this is 50-50 for me since you will never know the positioning in 2017 pick of San Antonio and throwing it for an expiring contracts and which probably help in the current season also which saves him around 6M for the next season. You're not wrong here Dan, but the Spurs are not a normal situation. They're just not. If this was say Alex's Nuggets or the Warriors doing something similar, it would be closer. They have a ton of assets and have bright futures. That 2017 pick is arguably one of the top 3 pieces the Spurs have. His 2014 and 2015 1sts are already gone. His only real, possible, building blocks that he owns are... Isaiah Thomas (but needs resigned. I know he's trying to help that here but not at the expense of another of his 3 real assets) 2016 Spurs 1st 2017 Spurs 1st That's about it. He has 3 other solid players but none are true impact stars in any way - Frye, Afflalo, Gerald Green. He just does not get enough for that 2017 pick. |
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Post by Alex English on Mar 26, 2014 13:40:04 GMT
Reject. The Spurs have light at the end of the tunnel with just 11 mil in salary going into the 2015 off-season. That 2017 pick is one the most valuable assets the team has.
JR I think you really need to stop focusing only on ratings. You do know players get their ratings based on real life right? You have the most depressing collection of shitty, washed up and overrated players. Al Harrington, Mike Miller, and Tayshaun Prince are the core of your team and they are all just shells of what they once were. Battier and Murphy are more of the same here. Half the players on your team deserve significant rating decreases, and would get them if someone bothered to post a stockwatch thread about them. Even just focusing on ratings, how can you think your team can win when you only have one player rated at 80 or greater? Just scroll through the salary database and look at the ratings for some of the other teams.
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