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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Apr 3, 2015 19:31:00 GMT
74 Leandro Barbosa $8,242,625
76 Dion Waiters $2,033,200 $2,592,330(TO) $3,530,753
76 Udonis Haslem $4,620,000
Total: $14,895,825
For:
Antawn Jamison $6,000,000 (contract)
76 D.J. Augustin $1,000,000 $1,000,000 (PO)
73 Trevor Booker $1,000,000 $1,000,000 (TO)
Golden State 2015 First Rounder
New Orleans Pelicans 2015 Second Rounder
Total: $8,000,000
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Apr 3, 2015 19:37:23 GMT
JR gets a good young player for his rebuild and a pair of players he's been wanting to give him a boost in his playoff race.
I think I'm getting fair value for the former #4 overall draft pick but I need to make room for my free agency targets and think that Dion has the most value while someone can still get bird rights on him. I know they are late picks but I have a few sleepers I've got my eye on. Luckily JR has so many 2nd rounders that he can move up with a trade or basically grab the next Chandler Parsons so losing these picks doesn't really hurt him much.
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Post by James Kay on Apr 3, 2015 20:22:28 GMT
Jeremiah what even is this trade… You’re giving away Dion for a very late 2015 first round and a 2015 2nd round. And why are you saying you’re clearing cap? You only clear 1.5 mil and if you really wanted you could just not pick up Dion’s team option, anyway, so you’re really only getting those picks. I think you need to keep all the potential talent you can get. Yeah, you have cap space out the ass but no one is gonna want to sign to your team when Marcus Smart is both the best player and best developing player on your team. And in that regard I think Dion Waiters will do you a lot more good than an extra 1.5 mil in OSFA.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 3, 2015 20:30:16 GMT
I accept. We are in the rebuilding process and we bring In special player, even though we give up picks.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Apr 3, 2015 20:55:40 GMT
Jeremiah what even is this trade… You’re giving away Dion for a very late 2015 first round and a 2015 2nd round. And why are you saying you’re clearing cap? You only clear 1.5 mil and if you really wanted you could just not pick up Dion’s team option, anyway, so you’re really only getting those picks. I think you need to keep all the potential talent you can get. Yeah, you have cap space out the ass but no one is gonna want to sign to your team when Marcus Smart is both the best player and best developing player on your team. And in that regard I think Dion Waiters will do you a lot more good than an extra 1.5 mil in OSFA. According to everyone's denial of my trade with New Orleans Pelicans, my team next year will be so bad its not even fair which by my assessment means I'm not getting any big name free agents (most of the people saying this were Player Agents so I assume they already made the decision despite not seeing my offers or plans). If I decided I'm not going to pick up Dion's option why would I just lose him for nothing? That stupid as hell when I can get a first and a 2nd for him. I have specific draft targets, free agent targets and even trades during the draft targets. I even have them all in a hand written note book so I don't accidentally e-mail it to any of you guys if I get drunk. So far my record of drafting has been pretty decent, I have a guy who's basically what I thought he'd be during his first year (Tony Allen who shoots too much), Nick Johnson who I nabbed and a international prospect who is flourishing overseas right now (the only reason he's not in the NBA now is cause the Nuggets nabbed Nurkic as well). I assist myself in getting these picks and Augustine who I will trade to a contender for another 2nd this year or in the future all while helping to screw up one of Ian's lotto picks if the Spurs can catch up 6 games within 28 games (which might not be as hard as you think with his upcoming schedule.)
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Post by James Kay on Apr 3, 2015 21:11:48 GMT
Jeremiah what even is this trade… You’re giving away Dion for a very late 2015 first round and a 2015 2nd round. And why are you saying you’re clearing cap? You only clear 1.5 mil and if you really wanted you could just not pick up Dion’s team option, anyway, so you’re really only getting those picks. I think you need to keep all the potential talent you can get. Yeah, you have cap space out the ass but no one is gonna want to sign to your team when Marcus Smart is both the best player and best developing player on your team. And in that regard I think Dion Waiters will do you a lot more good than an extra 1.5 mil in OSFA. According to everyone's denial of my trade with New Orleans Pelicans, my team next year will be so bad its not even fair which by my assessment means I'm not getting any big name free agents (most of the people saying this were Player Agents so I assume they already made the decision despite not seeing my offers or plans). If I decided I'm not going to pick up Dion's option why would I just lose him for nothing? That stupid as hell when I can get a first and a 2nd for him. I have specific draft targets, free agent targets and even trades during the draft targets. I even have them all in a hand written note book so I don't accidentally e-mail it to any of you guys if I get drunk. So far my record of drafting has been pretty decent, I have a guy who's basically what I thought he'd be during his first year (Tony Allen who shoots too much), Nick Johnson who I nabbed and a international prospect who is flourishing overseas right now (the only reason he's not in the NBA now is cause the Nuggets nabbed Nurkic as well). I assist myself in getting these picks and Augustine who I will trade to a contender for another 2nd this year or in the future all while helping to screw up one of Ian's lotto picks if the Spurs can catch up 6 games within 28 games (which might not be as hard as you think with his upcoming schedule.) I think you misunderstood what I was saying about cutting Dion. I didn’t mean you should actually do that, I just meant you can’t count that as an asset gained in this trade, because his salary isn’t necessarily tied to you. You’re trading an expiring and dion for 2 low picks and that’s it. Just think Dion is worth more, but maybe that’s because you seem to have much greater faith in your drafting ability than I do.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Apr 3, 2015 23:15:48 GMT
According to everyone's denial of my trade with New Orleans Pelicans, my team next year will be so bad its not even fair which by my assessment means I'm not getting any big name free agents (most of the people saying this were Player Agents so I assume they already made the decision despite not seeing my offers or plans). If I decided I'm not going to pick up Dion's option why would I just lose him for nothing? That stupid as hell when I can get a first and a 2nd for him. I have specific draft targets, free agent targets and even trades during the draft targets. I even have them all in a hand written note book so I don't accidentally e-mail it to any of you guys if I get drunk. So far my record of drafting has been pretty decent, I have a guy who's basically what I thought he'd be during his first year (Tony Allen who shoots too much), Nick Johnson who I nabbed and a international prospect who is flourishing overseas right now (the only reason he's not in the NBA now is cause the Nuggets nabbed Nurkic as well). I assist myself in getting these picks and Augustine who I will trade to a contender for another 2nd this year or in the future all while helping to screw up one of Ian's lotto picks if the Spurs can catch up 6 games within 28 games (which might not be as hard as you think with his upcoming schedule.) I think you misunderstood what I was saying about cutting Dion. I didn’t mean you should actually do that, I just meant you can’t count that as an asset gained in this trade, because his salary isn’t necessarily tied to you. You’re trading an expiring and dion for 2 low picks and that’s it. Just think Dion is worth more, but maybe that’s because you seem to have much greater faith in your drafting ability than I do. ------------- No but I know that there are late rounders from last season that people would not trade for Dion Waiters. The idea of the unknown is more attractive than someone who gives off the impression of being average at best. I really like Dion but his time in OKC is plagued by the same things it was in Cleveland which is the inability to hit open jumpers. If this was fan land but like my real life Cavs I have to make a general manager decision that I think will help improve my team. Real life Philly gave up on MCW way before his second year was over. I gave him two full seasons and a chance with another team. My team building plan dictates that I get max value while I can. I still think he can be really good.
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Post by Alex English on Apr 4, 2015 0:26:36 GMT
On one hand I like JR's commitment to acquiring young players and rebuilding, and in that same line of thinking this doesn't make too much sense for Memphis. But on the other hand, Dion Waiters sucks. I accept.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Apr 4, 2015 1:05:20 GMT
On one hand I like JR's commitment to acquiring young players and rebuilding, and in that same line of thinking this doesn't make too much sense for Memphis. But on the other hand, Dion Waiters sucks. I accept. You watching the OKC game now too?
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Post by Walt Frazier on Apr 4, 2015 4:44:19 GMT
Have never been much of a Waiters fan, I dunno, this trade seems fine to me.
Accept.
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Post by Danny Longley on Apr 4, 2015 16:34:28 GMT
Actually not a fan of this trade, since I really don't like moving rookie contracts for cheap, but I guess it does make sense to try and get something out of Waiters while he has BRs. He's certainly not producing as much as you'd hope for a #4.
I would accept, but I feel like I should hold my vote since I actually have some personal interest in seeing this trade pass. Thoughts, Ian?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 4, 2015 22:04:54 GMT
I would like to Dion come back to Sacrament; we love him there and I think he can be a perennial all-start type player.
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Post by Spike Lee on Apr 5, 2015 2:41:29 GMT
dion sucks imo
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2015 7:37:08 GMT
Come on guys....
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Post by Ian Noble on Apr 5, 2015 13:20:30 GMT
I was away for Easter weekend but I'm back now.
Unless Memphis drafts a steal, Dion is going to be the most valuable piece of this deal. JR is the master of double-speak, saying he's making a rebuilding trade whilst losing a draft pick, but Dion's only 23 and I'm not as low as other posters are on him.
I accept.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 5, 2015 13:21:47 GMT
I was away for Easter weekend but I'm back now. Unless Memphis drafts a steal, Dion is going to be the most valuable piece of this deal. JR is the master of double-speak, saying he's making a rebuilding trade whilst losing a draft pick, but Dion's only 23 and I'm not as low as other posters are on him. I accept. >away for easter weekend >comes back easter morning You took the wrong day off, bud!
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Post by Blake Bowman on Apr 5, 2015 22:24:41 GMT
I was away for Easter weekend but I'm back now. Unless Memphis drafts a steal, Dion is going to be the most valuable piece of this deal. JR is the master of double-speak, saying he's making a rebuilding trade whilst losing a draft pick, but Dion's only 23 and I'm not as low as other posters are on him. I accept. >away for easter weekend >comes back easter morning You took the wrong day off, bud! His account was hacked by Dion Waiters.
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