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Post by Jeremiah Hill on May 13, 2014 1:08:22 GMT
As you can see, many players are being signed to stupid minimum contracts that go on as minimums for their entirety. Under the new rule if you were to sign say Jason Terry (10+ year vet) to a 3 year minimum contract it would have to start at $1,339,507, $1,448,490, $1,499,187. If you sign a rookie to a multiple year rookie deal it would go $490,180, $816,482 so on and so forth. The way people just sign guys with no regard to future cap is a little silly. -------------------------------------------------------------------------- I also propose a new limit to the MLE of teams who are over the cap. The tax threshold is $61.7 million will probably be around 64-65 when the Cap goes up. I propose that people over the tax threshold be held to the real life standards of the NBA MLE. $5 million for non-taxpaying teams over the cap (over 58 mil but under 61) (4 year max contract) $3 million for taxpaying teams over the cap (3 year max) Perhaps we play with the numbers to give us play with how much salaries change throughout the season. For example our tax can be 5-10mil over the real life threshold or the threshold can be a bit higher etc. This gives less incentive for tanking because teams on the cusp will not just give up knowing they don't have crazy competition of the top 10 teams each with 5 mil in cap room to get free agents. Just a few ideas.
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on May 13, 2014 1:20:19 GMT
I'm all for lowering the MLE. We can get rid of it completely for all I care.
Also, have we confirmed anywhere that we're actually increasing the salary cap along with the real NBA? That seems pretty unnecessary as well, seeing as we already have so many teams with cap room
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on May 13, 2014 1:21:35 GMT
I'd like to point out the nba compensates teams for veteran minimum salary to make it cost that of a 2nd year player
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on May 13, 2014 1:23:17 GMT
I'd like to point out the nba compensates teams for veteran minimum salary to make it cost that of a 2nd year player Don't they still take the cap hit?
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on May 13, 2014 1:44:27 GMT
Yeah i just looked it up you're right. My bad
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Post by Alex English on May 13, 2014 1:50:46 GMT
I kinda like the idea for the MLE. The tax level this year is actually $70.3 million and I'm guessing will be in the mid 70s next year. I'm strongly against eliminating the MLE though. It would kill activity for teams over the cap during the offseason, it would pretty much eliminate the idea of 'ring chasing' free agents as the best teams will have no ability to offer them money, and it actually exists, so realism is in favour of having the MLE.
I like the change we've already made that minimum contracts can only be 2 years long so GMs can't 'cheat' their way into bird rights. I also really think player agents should just be tougher during free agency. Players shouldn't settle as easily as they do. If they don't get a legitimate offer then we should leave them unsigned. If we all did this then GMs would have to decide between actually paying up for that decent free agent of just going with a shitty player that is really only worth the minimum.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on May 13, 2014 1:57:06 GMT
Yeah, I just mean that 25 year old's don't ring chase, that's dumb. They want playing time so they can earn contracts.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on May 13, 2014 1:57:32 GMT
29-35 year olds chase away, that's not that big of a deal.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on May 13, 2014 1:58:25 GMT
I kinda like the idea for the MLE. The tax level this year is actually $70.3 million and I'm guessing will be in the mid 70s next year. I'm strongly against eliminating the MLE though. It would kill activity for teams over the cap during the offseason, it would pretty much eliminate the idea of 'ring chasing' free agents as the best teams will have no ability to offer them money, and it actually exists, so realism is in favour of having the MLE. Players shouldn't settle as easily as they do. If they don't get a legitimate offer then we should leave them unsigned. If we all did this then GMs would have to decide between actually paying up for that decent free agent of just going with a shitty player that is really only worth the minimum. "I like the change we've already made that minimum contracts can only be 2 years long so GMs can't 'cheat' their way into bird rights. I also really think player agents should just be tougher during free agency." When did this happen?
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Post by Alex English on May 13, 2014 2:14:06 GMT
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on May 13, 2014 2:23:37 GMT
Good thing I got all my little minimum guys in hehehehehe!
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Post by Charles Barkley on May 13, 2014 12:19:03 GMT
This new minimum assumes our cap will increase along with the NBA's cap, and that may not be the case.
I agree that there should be some sort of veteran minimum. But, it makes no difference in the case where GM's, with teams over the cap, signing players to 1 year deals. It does, however, make a difference with GM's signing players to more than 1 year deals.
In the case of the MLE, how do we figure out our tax threshold if our cap doesn't change along with the real life cap? I do agree though that there should be some sort of MLE penalty for being over the cap, especially since we have no luxury tax. Since we have no luxury tax, there is no penalty for teams being insanely over the cap; very few owners in the NBA are willing to pay the huge luxury taxes (see OKC-Harden).
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