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Post by Jared Montini on Jul 21, 2017 15:41:02 GMT
PHX trades
(73) Emmanuel Mudiay. $3,398,600 $4,306,026(TO) $5,709,791
Sac trades
2020 kings 1st
(70) Caris Levert $1,000,200 $1,043,300(TO) $1,883,157(TO) 2,805,903
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Post by Chauncey Billups on Jul 21, 2017 15:46:11 GMT
I accept. I'm really hesitant about this deal but I'll pull the trigger anyways. After losing out on Shaun Livingston I started shopping for a backup PG. I've looked at his real life numbers as well as D5 statistics and I'm relatively comfortable with this. Have my fingers crossed for Mudiay to stay healthy. This may be the one trade I regret in the future but only time will tell.
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Post by Jared Montini on Jul 21, 2017 15:47:01 GMT
Accept, it's tough to give up Mudiay due to there not being any other PGs in Denver but I really like Levert and that pick in 2020 is nice to have
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 15:49:20 GMT
Nice
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Post by Ian Noble on Jul 21, 2017 15:49:44 GMT
I still feel like Mudiay is quite underrated. I watched plenty of Nuggets games last year and never thought he was terrible.
I'll accept though.
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Post by Jared Montini on Jul 21, 2017 15:51:11 GMT
That gives me my 7th SG lol, Anyone want kilpatrick or cam Payne
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Post by Vlade Divac on Jul 21, 2017 16:05:05 GMT
Good trade, Chauncey!
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Jul 21, 2017 16:10:40 GMT
Great move by the Suns
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Post by Chauncey Billups on Jul 21, 2017 16:25:37 GMT
I still feel like Mudiay is quite underrated. I watched plenty of Nuggets games last year and never thought he was terrible. I'll accept though. I don't think he's underrated, there's just a lot of question marks when it comes to his health. I agree with Josh that foreign PGs tend to be busts, also, but I'm gonna take this gamble either way. |
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Post by Jared Montini on Jul 21, 2017 16:44:29 GMT
I still feel like Mudiay is quite underrated. I watched plenty of Nuggets games last year and never thought he was terrible. I'll accept though. I don't think he's underrated, there's just a lot of question marks when it comes to his health. I agree with Josh that foreign PGs tend to be busts, also, but I'm gonna take this gamble either way. his health didn't concern me, it was his ability to shoot the 3 and his passing was pretty bad last year. I still think he develops into a good backup for lillard |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 16:47:38 GMT
I don't think he's underrated, there's just a lot of question marks when it comes to his health. I agree with Josh that foreign PGs tend to be busts, also, but I'm gonna take this gamble either way. his health didn't concern me, it was his ability to shoot the 3 and his passing was pretty bad last year. I still think he develops into a good backup for lillard You might've fucked yourself here because Mudiay is literally god mode tanking PG. No idea why SAC thinks he wants a shoot first backup to Dame that shoots 37%. |
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Post by Jared Montini on Jul 21, 2017 16:51:49 GMT
his health didn't concern me, it was his ability to shoot the 3 and his passing was pretty bad last year. I still think he develops into a good backup for lillard You might've fucked yourself here because Mudiay is literally god mode tanking PG. No idea why SAC thinks he wants a shoot first backup to Dame that shoots 37%. Damn I didn't know, Ulis is lower rated so I still should Finnish with a top 3 worst record. Vlade doesn't like Doncic so getting the number one doesn't even matter  |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 21, 2017 16:55:07 GMT
You might've fucked yourself here because Mudiay is literally god mode tanking PG. No idea why SAC thinks he wants a shoot first backup to Dame that shoots 37%. Damn I didn't know, Ulis is lower rated so I still should Finnish with a top 3 worst record. Vlade doesn't like Doncic so getting the number one doesn't even matter Gotta be careful. I traded mudiay and started a much worse PG and won games because Mudiay was taking lots of terrible shots. After moving mudiay more efficient players began taking more shots. Mudiay is literally a negative WS machine. |
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Post by Bryan Colangelo on Jul 21, 2017 17:02:56 GMT
accept
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jul 21, 2017 17:31:40 GMT
I'm a LeVert fan and would rather have him straight up, to be honest.
Here's where I'm that TC member who hates other teams trading their 1sts for "no reason", especially future ones.
I gotta think about it, the 1st just seems very unnecessary to me.
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Post by Charles Barkley on Jul 21, 2017 18:40:43 GMT
I feel like Chauncey is the T-Mac of the off-season
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Post by Chauncey Billups on Jul 21, 2017 18:45:03 GMT
I feel like Chauncey is the T-Mac of the off-season Lol except my team is good. Better than yours as a matter of fact. People tend to overrate these picks massively. I'm not a lottery team. Mudiay was taken 7th overall and I plan to be a playoff team. Doubt I'll get talent like that in the 20s. |
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Post by Chauncey Billups on Jul 21, 2017 18:50:16 GMT
I'm a LeVert fan and would rather have him straight up, to be honest. Here's where I'm that TC member who hates other teams trading their 1sts for "no reason", especially future ones. I gotta think about it, the 1st just seems very unnecessary to me. I understand your concern Walt, I really do, but my core is locked up through 2020. |
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Post by James Kay on Jul 21, 2017 18:53:08 GMT
I'm a LeVert fan and would rather have him straight up, to be honest. Here's where I'm that TC member who hates other teams trading their 1sts for "no reason", especially future ones. I gotta think about it, the 1st just seems very unnecessary to me. I understand your concern Walt, I really do, but my core is locked up through 2020. Well that's true, but as of right now your core involves paying 80 million to Drummond, Thad Young, and Avery Bradley in the year of this pick. Everyone in this league has different opinions on players but that's a lot more money than talent IMO. |
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Post by Chauncey Billups on Jul 21, 2017 18:56:23 GMT
I understand your concern Walt, I really do, but my core is locked up through 2020. Well that's true, but as of right now your core involves paying 80 million to Drummond, Thad Young, and Avery Bradley in the year of this pick. Everyone in this league has different opinions on players but that's a lot more money than talent IMO. If you're gonna name my players that are locked up you can't leave out my superstar Damian Lillard. Also, can't imagine a scenario where Porter walks either. |
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Post by Spike Lee on Jul 21, 2017 18:59:03 GMT
I'm a LeVert fan and would rather have him straight up, to be honest. Here's where I'm that TC member who hates other teams trading their 1sts for "no reason", especially future ones. I gotta think about it, the 1st just seems very unnecessary to me. just like that first Boston traded but was not a big enough deal to reject? |
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jul 21, 2017 19:21:21 GMT
I'm a LeVert fan and would rather have him straight up, to be honest. Here's where I'm that TC member who hates other teams trading their 1sts for "no reason", especially future ones. I gotta think about it, the 1st just seems very unnecessary to me. just like that first Boston traded but was not a big enough deal to reject? Gonna have to name the full trade for me before I can respond to the relationship between whatever trade that is and this one. |
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Post by Charles Barkley on Jul 21, 2017 19:48:05 GMT
just like that first Boston traded but was not a big enough deal to reject? Gonna have to name the full trade for me before I can respond to the relationship between whatever trade that is and this one. Ingram for Josh Jackson |
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Post by James Kay on Jul 21, 2017 19:52:16 GMT
Gonna have to name the full trade for me before I can respond to the relationship between whatever trade that is and this one. Ingram for Josh Jackson wasn't his own first though |
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jul 21, 2017 20:08:19 GMT
Ah. Well, this was my comment there. I'll accept. Regardless of the cap space here, I think it's pretty fair. Maybe I'm not as into Ingram as James but this feels pretty good to me. So, just different values to me. In this one, LeVert went 20ish and would have gone higher if not for his injury history. He showed well last year, too. Has a lot of PT available to boot but I suppose Mudiay does too. But LeVert's stock seems to be on the way up. Right or wrong, Mudiay's stock is on the way down. Already has plenty of doubters, bust label has been thrown. LeVert is probably worth more alone, forget the ratings you see and just look at the players. In the other trade being referenced, I feel their games are really different. JJ may have a higher floor, and a high ceiling on his own, but Ingram's potential is higher and the pick being traded is only next year, not 3 years away. We have. A pretty good idea what SAC will be next year, but in 3 years that's a little muddier and again, just my opinion, the values of the players involved are a big difference. |
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Post by Clyde Drexler on Jul 21, 2017 20:25:50 GMT
I feel like Chauncey is the T-Mac of the off-season That dude put the Wizards franchise behind a good 3 years  |
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Post by Jared Montini on Jul 21, 2017 20:44:38 GMT
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Post by Alex English on Jul 21, 2017 21:33:47 GMT
Great deal for Phoenix. Accept.
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Post by Ian Noble on Jul 22, 2017 8:30:37 GMT
Trade passed.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jul 22, 2017 8:32:35 GMT
I feel like Chauncey is the T-Mac of the off-season I'd say that too but Chauncey has a good team. T-mac did not. |
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