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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Jul 17, 2017 13:40:56 GMT
Gerald Green - Portland Trail BlazersGerald Green has agreed to a 2 year deal with Brandon Roy and the Portland Trailblazers. Green is excited about potential play-time available for the Blazers and the prospect of having a stable two years in the league to potentially close out his year. Year 1: $5,000,000 Year 2: $5,000,000
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Post by Ian Noble on Jul 17, 2017 14:13:56 GMT
Brandon Roy with a sudden insatiable desire for league average small forwards
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Post by Jared Montini on Jul 17, 2017 21:01:39 GMT
Brandon Roy with a sudden insatiable desire for league average small forwards Too soon, too soon
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Post by Brandon Roy on Jul 17, 2017 23:08:55 GMT
Well I gotta sign whats left cause there are no Sf left and I still want to compete cause I dont have a pick..
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Post by James Kay on Jul 17, 2017 23:09:31 GMT
Well I gotta sign whats left cause there are no Sf left and I still want to compete cause I dont have a pick.. Don't you own your 2018 and 2019 picks?
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Post by Brandon Roy on Jul 17, 2017 23:19:06 GMT
Actually I own them
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Post by James Kay on Jul 17, 2017 23:49:00 GMT
lol, exactly, yeah. so you COULD tank if you wanted to
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Post by Jared Montini on Jul 18, 2017 0:07:53 GMT
Trade Kyrie for some great picks/prospects
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jul 18, 2017 0:23:39 GMT
lol, exactly, yeah. so you COULD tank if you wanted to Smelling kind of fishy. Ian noble offer for Kyrie anytime recently?
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Post by Chauncey Billups on Jul 18, 2017 0:26:52 GMT
lol, exactly, yeah. so you COULD tank if you wanted to Smelling kind of fishy. Ian noble offer for Kyrie anytime recently? Hmm....
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Post by James Kay on Jul 18, 2017 0:28:16 GMT
lol, exactly, yeah. so you COULD tank if you wanted to Smelling kind of fishy. Ian noble offer for Kyrie anytime recently? Fishy?
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jul 18, 2017 3:50:24 GMT
Smelling kind of fishy. Ian noble offer for Kyrie anytime recently? Fishy? Yes, Afroman said it best. At first glance, it seems like Ian delayed vote to get Ingram to try and trade for kyrie after Portland was out. Just seems to coincidental - maybe I am reading too much into it; however that was my first thought when I saw you pushing for Portland to rebuild. I do love conspiracy theories. Free agency or die baby. I just think it is kind of weird that someone involved in the decision for PG13 can be involved in a last minute trade that involves one of the teams in question. This doesn't seem the least bit odd to anyone else? It's literally like insider trading gone wild d5 style. Obvisouly I am not too butt hurt because I wasn't involved, but the whole event cycle is odd.
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Post by James Kay on Jul 18, 2017 4:12:54 GMT
Yes, Afroman said it best. At first glance, it seems like Ian delayed vote to get Ingram to try and trade for kyrie after Portland was out. Just seems to coincidental - maybe I am reading too much into it; however that was my first thought when I saw you pushing for Portland to rebuild. I do love conspiracy theories. Free agency or die baby. I just think it is kind of weird that someone involved in the decision for PG13 can be involved in a last minute trade that involves one of the teams in question. This doesn't seem the least bit odd to anyone else? It's literally like insider trading gone wild d5 style. Obvisouly I am not too butt hurt because I wasn't involved, but the whole event cycle is odd. I can't speak to Ian delaying the vote, but I feel like the discussion members would be able to attest to that. The only thing that is weird about this potential "conspiracy" is that everyone thinks I got the better end of that deal. If there was any "insider trading" wouldn't Ian be the one ripping me off? Another counter-point is that Ian is literally the commissioner and is involved in every process/decision. So is it not possible for him to make moves? Everyone knew I was considering moves for cap space, and everyone knew that POR was eliminated from PG contention, because it was announced. I do see what you're saying, but it's not like Ian has ultimate control of FA decisions - he's just one member of a seven person committee, and he's also a commissioner with a history of integrity so I don't really buy any of that.
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jul 18, 2017 4:36:59 GMT
Yes, Afroman said it best. At first glance, it seems like Ian delayed vote to get Ingram to try and trade for kyrie after Portland was out. Just seems to coincidental - maybe I am reading too much into it; however that was my first thought when I saw you pushing for Portland to rebuild. I do love conspiracy theories. Free agency or die baby. I just think it is kind of weird that someone involved in the decision for PG13 can be involved in a last minute trade that involves one of the teams in question. This doesn't seem the least bit odd to anyone else? It's literally like insider trading gone wild d5 style. Obvisouly I am not too butt hurt because I wasn't involved, but the whole event cycle is odd. Let me pounce on it more by simply saying that without the cleared cap space through that trade, the PAs will not push for PG to CHA.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jul 18, 2017 8:40:26 GMT
Yes, Afroman said it best. At first glance, it seems like Ian delayed vote to get Ingram to try and trade for kyrie after Portland was out. Just seems to coincidental - maybe I am reading too much into it; however that was my first thought when I saw you pushing for Portland to rebuild. I do love conspiracy theories. Free agency or die baby. I just think it is kind of weird that someone involved in the decision for PG13 can be involved in a last minute trade that involves one of the teams in question. This doesn't seem the least bit odd to anyone else? It's literally like insider trading gone wild d5 style. Obvisouly I am not too butt hurt because I wasn't involved, but the whole event cycle is odd. If Charlotte doesn't get PG then Houston gets him. If Ian's plan is to try and trade for Kyrie its irrelevant who Paul George goes to between those teams.
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Post by Ian Noble on Jul 18, 2017 8:51:50 GMT
Basically Brandon Roy told me he was interested in a deal involving Ingram and wasn't interested in Josh Jackson, that's why I made the trade with Charlotte. Brandon Roy told me that midday on Sunday and prompted me to re-enter negotiations for Ingram.
I'd been pursuing Ingram since the start of June anyway, so even if Brandon Roy decided to change his mind (which he has) I was going to be happy getting Ingram. Time was of the essence for James Kay and the trade could help him get Paul George, that was obvious to every GM in the league, so we posted the Ingram trade.
Since I'm Commissioner you can construe that as favouritism because it helped Charlotte sign Paul George, but the aim of the deal for me was Kyrie Irving and the surest route to Kyrie was through Ingram.
To put it very gently I am extremely disappointed that Brandon Roy has now changed his mind and has no interest in Ingram, but that will teach me to take even the slightest of chances. But it's not like Ingram is a consolation prize.
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jul 18, 2017 11:10:10 GMT
Yes, Afroman said it best. At first glance, it seems like Ian delayed vote to get Ingram to try and trade for kyrie after Portland was out. Just seems to coincidental - maybe I am reading too much into it; however that was my first thought when I saw you pushing for Portland to rebuild. I do love conspiracy theories. Free agency or die baby. I just think it is kind of weird that someone involved in the decision for PG13 can be involved in a last minute trade that involves one of the teams in question. This doesn't seem the least bit odd to anyone else? It's literally like insider trading gone wild d5 style. Obvisouly I am not too butt hurt because I wasn't involved, but the whole event cycle is odd. If Charlotte doesn't get PG then Houston gets him. If Ian's plan is to try and trade for Kyrie its irrelevant who Paul George goes to between those teams. I think this went over your head.
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jul 18, 2017 11:13:32 GMT
Basically Brandon Roy told me he was interested in a deal involving Ingram and wasn't interested in Josh Jackson, that's why I made the trade with Charlotte. Brandon Roy told me that midday on Sunday and prompted me to re-enter negotiations for Ingram. I'd been pursuing Ingram since the start of June anyway, so even if Brandon Roy decided to change his mind (which he has) I was going to be happy getting Ingram. Time was of the essence for James Kay and the trade could help him get Paul George, that was obvious to every GM in the league, so we posted the Ingram trade. Since I'm Commissioner you can construe that as favouritism because it helped Charlotte sign Paul George, but the aim of the deal for me was Kyrie Irving and the surest route to Kyrie was through Ingram. To put it very gently I am extremely disappointed that Brandon Roy has now changed his mind and has no interest in Ingram, but that will teach me to take even the slightest of chances. But it's not like Ingram is a consolation prize. Always getting the short straw Ian noble. Just like to stir the pot.
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Post by Brandon Roy on Jul 18, 2017 11:27:33 GMT
Relax guys it's done.. I'm ok and moving on
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Post by Charles Barkley on Jul 18, 2017 13:52:19 GMT
Yes, Afroman said it best. At first glance, it seems like Ian delayed vote to get Ingram to try and trade for kyrie after Portland was out. Just seems to coincidental - maybe I am reading too much into it; however that was my first thought when I saw you pushing for Portland to rebuild. I do love conspiracy theories. Free agency or die baby. I just think it is kind of weird that someone involved in the decision for PG13 can be involved in a last minute trade that involves one of the teams in question. This doesn't seem the least bit odd to anyone else? It's literally like insider trading gone wild d5 style. Obvisouly I am not too butt hurt because I wasn't involved, but the whole event cycle is odd. Let me pounce on it more by simply saying that without the cleared cap space through that trade, the PAs will not push for PG to CHA. You're exactly right.
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Post by Vlade Divac on Jul 18, 2017 14:47:49 GMT
Plus, let's remember that Ian could just keep simming until he gets the result he wants during a desired year and there is nothing any of us could do about it. Basically, if he wanted to cheat he could do it in much more profound ways than holding off a vote on a FA. Who knows? JR Wiles and the Spurs could be 6 time defending champions!
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jul 18, 2017 18:19:16 GMT
If Charlotte doesn't get PG then Houston gets him. If Ian's plan is to try and trade for Kyrie its irrelevant who Paul George goes to between those teams. I think this went over your head. I think you just had a lapse in critical thinking ability. But sure, pull the covfefe excuse and say I just don't understand.
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jul 18, 2017 18:41:27 GMT
I think this went over your head. I think you just had a lapse in critical thinking ability. But sure, pull the covfefe excuse and say I just don't understand. I wasn't trying to be a jerk, so thanks, appreciate the random political bash that doesn't even relate to anything. I was stating that Ian was privy to info that only a select few are aware of and could have used it to his advantage. James says, "well i won the trade" excuse, but if Ian told him he will get kyrie out of the trade, all leverage is lost for Ian." If Paul George doesn't go to Charlotte, maybe Charlotte doesn't give up ingram because he likes him more; which means, all chances are lost for kyrie. James then comes out and tells Portland to tank after his trade. Just saying that there was an opportunity for backdoor talking. Maybe it want a lapse of critical thinking, but an over analyzed theory. Keep being a dick though, all good.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jul 18, 2017 19:14:35 GMT
Ian has more than enough assets to get Kyrie without Ingram imo anyways. I don't think that deal is dead in the water.
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