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Post by Alex English on Jul 9, 2017 1:46:30 GMT
Sacramento Kings - Damian LillardDamian Lillard has agreed to re-sign with the Sacramento Kings. The terms of the deal are a 5 year contract worth $143,757,679. The final year of the deal is a player option. Year 1 - $24,750,000 Year 2 - $26,606,250 Year 3 - $28,601,719 Year 4 - $30,746,848 Year 5 - $33,052,862 (PO) Damian received surprisingly few offers and in the end only three teams were given any serious consideration. However not much debate was needed to come to the conclusion that Sacramento was the right choice. Playing for Sacramento is the only thing Damian has ever known in D5. Lillard was drafted by the Kings and has been a fixture ever since. This allowed the Kings a major advantage in being able to offer a fifth year with their Bird rights. Lillard's personality has also been that of loyalty and building your own legacy. He has spoken against superteams and taking the quick out. He wants to walk the hard road and earn his reward. Damian will do his best to turn Sacramento into a contender. Otto Porter is the key piece in his supporting cast as of now, but the Kings still have ample cap space to bring in a few big names. Hopefully knowing that Lillard is back will lead to other players deciding to join him on his journey to conquer D5.
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Post by Alex English on Jul 9, 2017 1:48:19 GMT
The full contract should not count against the Kings cap. Damian, of course, wants the team to have the best chance to improve the roster. He will wait until all other moves have been made before officially putting pen to paper and inking his new deal.
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Post by Jared Montini on Jul 9, 2017 1:48:37 GMT
Aye congrats Sac
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Post by Chauncey Billups on Jul 9, 2017 1:50:03 GMT
Sacramento Kings - Damian LillardDamian Lillard has agreed to re-sign with the Sacramento Kings. The terms of the deal are a 5 year contract worth $143,757,679. The final year of the deal is a player option. Year 1 - $24,750,000 Year 2 - $26,606,250 Year 3 - $28,601,719 Year 4 - $30,746,848 Year 5 - $33,052,862 (PO) Damian received surprisingly few offers and in the end only three teams were given any serious consideration. However not much debate was needed to come to the conclusion that Sacramento was the right choice. Playing for Sacramento is the only thing Damian has ever known in D5. Lillard was drafted by the Kings and has been a fixture ever since. This allowed the Kings a major advantage in being able to offer a fifth year with their Bird rights. Lillard's personality has also been that of loyalty and building your own legacy. He has spoken against superteams and taking the quick out. He wants to walk the hard road and earn his reward. Damian will do his best to turn Sacramento into a contender. Otto Porter is the key piece in his supporting cast as of now, but the Kings still have ample cap space to bring in a few big names. Hopefully knowing that Lillard is back will lead to other players deciding to join him on his journey to conquer D5. Hopefully this isn't official until after I sign a few other guys, but welcome back nonetheless! We couldn't ask for a more talented, loyal individual to represent our organization. We'll do our best to bring in some other marquee free agents to make his stay in Sacramento worth while!
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Post by Vlade Divac on Jul 9, 2017 1:50:40 GMT
The full contract should not count against the Kings cap. Damian, of course, wants the team to have the best chance to improve the roster. He will wait until all other moves have been made before officially putting pen to paper and inking his new deal. I personally do not think you should be able to have it both ways; Either the contract counts against your cap or you keep it a secret until other players sign.
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Post by Chauncey Billups on Jul 9, 2017 1:51:55 GMT
The full contract should not count against the Kings cap. Damian, of course, wants the team to have the best chance to improve the roster. He will wait until all other moves have been made before officially putting pen to paper and inking his new deal. I personally do not think you should be able to have it both ways; Either the contract counts against your cap or you keep it a secret until other players sign. Why does it matter? I think by doing it this way other free agents can see the decision. The outcome is the same.
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Post by Alex English on Jul 9, 2017 1:55:38 GMT
The full contract should not count against the Kings cap. Damian, of course, wants the team to have the best chance to improve the roster. He will wait until all other moves have been made before officially putting pen to paper and inking his new deal. I personally do not think you should be able to have it both ways; Either the contract counts against your cap or you keep it a secret until other players sign. Why? This is standard operating procedure in the NBA. Free agents don't make decisions in a vacuum. They know what else is going on and would need to in order to make the best decision. Half the news your hear about in the NBA isn't actually official. It's how every once in a while, you get a DeAndre Jordan situation where a contract agreement is reversed and the player changes their mind.
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Post by Vlade Divac on Jul 9, 2017 1:56:13 GMT
I personally do not think you should be able to have it both ways; Either the contract counts against your cap or you keep it a secret until other players sign. Why does it matter? I think by doing it this way other free agents can see the decision. The outcome is the same. Because you already get a ton of power by owning a player's bird rights in the first place. It shouldn't be a done deal if it doesn't count against your cap. I really hate the bird rights because, in theory, you could sign three stud guys to the same length of deal, all three of the expire during the same off-season, you sign two more stud guys, and then go over the cap to resign your three. At least the two new guys would not know for sure if the other three were resigning or not. I mean seriously, timing of the contracts is much more important than any other factor.
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Post by Alex English on Jul 9, 2017 2:01:04 GMT
Because you already get a ton of power by owning a player's bird rights in the first place. It shouldn't be a done deal if it doesn't count against your cap. I really hate the bird rights because, in theory, you could sign three stud guys to the same length of deal, all three of the expire during the same off-season, you sign two more stud guys, and then go over the cap to resign the your three. At least the two new guys would not know for sure if the other three were resigning or not. I mean seriously, timing of the contracts is much more important than any other factor. This is all true, and again, it's standard operating procedure. Why wouldn't a team organize their signings in the most beneficial way? This exact Bird rights cap hold scenario is how San Antonio was able to sign LaMarcus Aldridge a few years ago. It was announced and known by everyone that Kawhi was going to re-sign, but he didn't officially do it until everything else was done by the organization because it gave them enough money to go after a guy like Aldridge. Why would this not apply to D5?
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Post by Vlade Divac on Jul 9, 2017 2:04:06 GMT
Because you already get a ton of power by owning a player's bird rights in the first place. It shouldn't be a done deal if it doesn't count against your cap. I really hate the bird rights because, in theory, you could sign three stud guys to the same length of deal, all three of the expire during the same off-season, you sign two more stud guys, and then go over the cap to resign the your three. At least the two new guys would not know for sure if the other three were resigning or not. I mean seriously, timing of the contracts is much more important than any other factor. This is all true, and again, it's standard operating procedure. Why wouldn't a team organize their signings in the most beneficial way? This exact Bird rights cap hold scenario is how San Antonio was able to sign LaMarcus Aldridge a few years ago. It was announced and known by everyone that Kawhi was going to re-sign, but he didn't officially do it until everything else was done by the organization because it gave them enough money to go after a guy like Aldridge. Why would this not apply to D5? I thought Ian told you guys to hold off on BR signings? Is that incorrect? If not, the player agents are playing God by helping certain teams sign players in free-agency while holding off on others.
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Post by Alex English on Jul 9, 2017 2:16:23 GMT
I thought Ian told you guys to hold off on BR signings? Is that incorrect? If not, the player agents are playing God by helping certain teams sign players in free-agency while holding off on others. If the technicalities are that important, then I'll just delete this signing and repost it again in a few weeks. We can all act like we have no idea where Lillard will sign, but really, we'll all know. So honestly, what's the point? Take this as unofficial news. Consider it to be a Woj tweet or something. The official signing will take place at some undisclosed time in the future. I'm not sure how it's playing god when the rule is always the same: signings take place in order to maximize the cap space and buying power of teams. This happens every time, 100% of the time. Same rules apply for everyone. What's unfair about this?
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Post by Chauncey Billups on Jul 9, 2017 2:18:45 GMT
I thought Ian told you guys to hold off on BR signings? Is that incorrect? If not, the player agents are playing God by helping certain teams sign players in free-agency while holding off on others. If the technicalities are that important, then I'll just delete this signing and repost it again in a few weeks. We can all act like we have no idea where Lillard will sign, but really, we'll all know. So honestly, what's the point? Take this as unofficial news. Consider it to be a Woj tweet or something. The official signing will take place at some undisclosed time in the future. I'm not sure how it's playing god when the rule is always the same: signings take place in order to maximize the cap space and buying power of teams. This happens every time, 100% of the time. Same rules apply for everyone. What's unfair about this? I'd just stop now, you're not going to win. I think the majority agrees with you.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jul 9, 2017 3:24:05 GMT
This is all true, and again, it's standard operating procedure. Why wouldn't a team organize their signings in the most beneficial way? This exact Bird rights cap hold scenario is how San Antonio was able to sign LaMarcus Aldridge a few years ago. It was announced and known by everyone that Kawhi was going to re-sign, but he didn't officially do it until everything else was done by the organization because it gave them enough money to go after a guy like Aldridge. Why would this not apply to D5? I thought Ian told you guys to hold off on BR signings? Is that incorrect? If not, the player agents are playing God by helping certain teams sign players in free-agency while holding off on others. I get this. I think a cool idea, little late now, is to do a FA signing Twitter style on the Media Center forum saying that a FA has made their decision. That way everyone knows its done and can move on and others can be signed underneath. There has to be a time limit otherwise it gives too much power in my opinion.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jul 9, 2017 3:25:52 GMT
Also with this signing, I'm pretty sure he has the cap space to sign another big name free agent because his overall number is so low. So it probably doesn't matter.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2017 4:20:32 GMT
Nice job!
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Post by Vlade Divac on Jul 9, 2017 4:56:04 GMT
Because you already get a ton of power by owning a player's bird rights in the first place. It shouldn't be a done deal if it doesn't count against your cap. I really hate the bird rights because, in theory, you could sign three stud guys to the same length of deal, all three of the expire during the same off-season, you sign two more stud guys, and then go over the cap to resign the your three. At least the two new guys would not know for sure if the other three were resigning or not. I mean seriously, timing of the contracts is much more important than any other factor. This is all true, and again, it's standard operating procedure. Why wouldn't a team organize their signings in the most beneficial way? This exact Bird rights cap hold scenario is how San Antonio was able to sign LaMarcus Aldridge a few years ago. It was announced and known by everyone that Kawhi was going to re-sign, but he didn't officially do it until everything else was done by the organization because it gave them enough money to go after a guy like Aldridge. Why would this not apply to D5? And people wonder why I traded for shit contracts. *shakes head*
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Post by Ian Noble on Jul 9, 2017 10:23:52 GMT
Very, very disappointed. I've not felt this distressed about a decision since I started D5. I was 2nd in the running. I felt like we offered a much better situation. Congratulations Chauncey Billups
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Post by Brian Windhorst on Jul 10, 2017 1:03:22 GMT
Mr. Chauncey Billups , sources have told me that you reportedly attempted to trade Damian Lillard this off-season as you were in the midst of re-signing him and calling him your franchise player. Do you care to comment?
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Post by Chauncey Billups on Jul 10, 2017 1:06:44 GMT
Mr. Chauncey Billups , sources have told me that you reportedly attempted to trade Damian Lillard this off-season as you were in the midst of re-signing him and calling him your franchise player. Do you care to comment? Prove it.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jul 10, 2017 1:09:40 GMT
Lol, if he trades Lillard right after resigning him I'll laugh my ass off.
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Post by Chauncey Billups on Jul 10, 2017 1:42:51 GMT
Lol, if he trades Lillard right after resigning him I'll laugh my ass off. Not gonna happen. That would make a mockery out of the FA process. I promised Lillard that he was the face of my franchise and I'm going to keep that promise. I'll keep my word on any other free agents that I sign as well, otherwise I won't be trusted in the future.
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Post by Brian Windhorst on Jul 10, 2017 1:55:59 GMT
Mr. Chauncey Billups , sources have told me that you reportedly attempted to trade Damian Lillard this off-season as you were in the midst of re-signing him and calling him your franchise player. Do you care to comment? Prove it Famous. Last. Words.
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jul 10, 2017 2:48:52 GMT
Easy, he offered me lilliard the day of free agency in an attempt to get cousins. Said he would trade him once he resigned him.
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Post by Jared Montini on Jul 10, 2017 2:49:50 GMT
Easy, he offered me lilliard the day of free agency in an attempt to get cousins. Said he would trade him once he resigned him. FR?
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Post by Chauncey Billups on Jul 10, 2017 2:52:01 GMT
Easy, he offered me lilliard the day of free agency in an attempt to get cousins. Said he would trade him once he resigned him. When did free agency start?
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Post by Charles Barkley on Jul 10, 2017 3:15:53 GMT
Easy, he offered me lilliard the day of free agency in an attempt to get cousins. Said he would trade him once he resigned him. When did free agency start? Well I mean, if it matters I did ask you about Porter and LaVert and you replied with Lillard and Porter for Giannis 2 days ago
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jul 10, 2017 3:16:18 GMT
Easy, he offered me lilliard the day of free agency in an attempt to get cousins. Said he would trade him once he resigned him. FR? I don't know what that means to be honest. Maybe for real?
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jul 10, 2017 3:17:30 GMT
Easy, he offered me lilliard the day of free agency in an attempt to get cousins. Said he would trade him once he resigned him. When did free agency start? What is the difference if it was after, before, the minute it started?
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Post by Chauncey Billups on Jul 10, 2017 3:19:33 GMT
When did free agency start? What is the difference if it was after, before, the minute it started? Because you said that I sent you a message the day of free agency. Get your story straight. Throwing things out there carelessly has implications. You said I offered the day of free agency, so when did free agency start?
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Post by Jared Montini on Jul 10, 2017 3:22:06 GMT
I don't know what that means to be honest. Maybe for real? yeah it means foreal haha
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