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Post by Alex English on Jul 5, 2017 23:03:08 GMT
 Denver Nuggets trade:55th pick Nick Young's contract - $6,000,000 Anderson Verajao's contract - $8,000,000 Carlos Boozer's contract - $9,856,800 Total: $23,856,800  Indiana Pacers trade:78 Al Jefferson - $22,700,000 Works under 125% rule.
I accept. This basically fulfills my free agency goals. Al Jeff will claim my final roster spot and be my back up center. I'll have him for the year then hit FA again next season to look for a more permanent fix at that spot. Big Al has still been good in the limited minutes he's getting at this point in his career, so he's a good piece to add for my team's depth. |
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Post by Jared Montini on Jul 5, 2017 23:13:23 GMT
Denver Nuggets trade:55th pick Nick Young's contract - $6,000,000 Anderson Verajao's contract - $8,000,000 Carlos Boozer's contract - $9,856,800 Total: $23,856,800 Indiana Pacers trade:78 Al Jefferson - $22,700,000 Works under 125% rule.
I accept. This basically fulfills my free agency goals. Al Jeff will claim my final roster spot and be my back up center. I'll have him for the year then hit FA again next season to look for a more permanent fix at that spot. Big Al has still been good in the limited minutes he's getting at this point in his career, so he's a good piece to add for my team's depth. Damn, Nuggets looking good. Can they take down GSW? |
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Post by Larry Bird on Jul 6, 2017 0:43:18 GMT
I am really trying to build a youth movement.
Al Jefferson has given us his best while on the team.
However, we are going in different directions.
We thank Al for his time with our team and are sending him to a championship contender where he can possibly win a championship and put his talents to better use.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jul 6, 2017 1:12:31 GMT
Pretty low price for Alex but Al isn't really a hot commodity anymore so, I'll accept it. Not nearly enough here to reject for any reason.
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jul 6, 2017 1:19:30 GMT
I am confused. If you own Young's contract, but Washington has him, shouldn't only one of you have his salary? If he is bought out in the NBA, doesn't the other team that signs him only take away from the other team? Probably something I am not understanding here.
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Post by Ian Noble on Jul 6, 2017 17:14:45 GMT
I accept
Indy tanking now?
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Post by Larry Bird on Jul 6, 2017 17:28:00 GMT
A guy gets tired of mediocrity.
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jul 6, 2017 17:31:58 GMT
I am confused. If you own Young's contract, but Washington has him, shouldn't only one of you have his salary? If he is bought out in the NBA, doesn't the other team that signs him only take away from the other team? Probably something I am not understanding here. No one can explain how this works in d5? Just curious is all. |
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jul 6, 2017 18:09:15 GMT
I am confused. If you own Young's contract, but Washington has him, shouldn't only one of you have his salary? If he is bought out in the NBA, doesn't the other team that signs him only take away from the other team? Probably something I am not understanding here. No one can explain how this works in d5? Just curious is all. I think we should institute a waiver wire system in D5. But I've had contracts for guys on other teams too. I think in the NBA if someone isn't on waivers and someone else signs them they just get paid by two teams. |
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jul 6, 2017 18:28:52 GMT
No one can explain how this works in d5? Just curious is all. I think we should institute a waiver wire system in D5. But I've had contracts for guys on other teams too. I think in the NBA if someone isn't on waivers and someone else signs them they just get paid by two teams. They do, but it also takes away from what the other team has to pay the such as a Deron Williams from last year. That is why they always sign for the minimum when they are bought out. So if Deron is bought out for 1 Million and a team picks him up and pays him 200K. Team one now owes him 800k. I am not sure how to implement this, but I think it should have some thought towards it.
So in theory, If Wash is paying Young 6M, then that money wouldn't be there for the Nuggets.
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Post by Vlade Divac on Jul 6, 2017 18:34:53 GMT
I think we should institute a waiver wire system in D5. But I've had contracts for guys on other teams too. I think in the NBA if someone isn't on waivers and someone else signs them they just get paid by two teams. They do, but it also takes away from what the other team has to pay the such as a Deron Williams from last year. That is why they always sign for the minimum when they are bought out. So if Deron is bought out for 1 Million and a team picks him up and pays him 200K. Team one now owes him 800k. I am not sure how to implement this, but I think it should have some thought towards it.
So in theory, If Wash is paying Young 6M, then that money wouldn't be there for the Nuggets.
There is a difference between being "bought out" and "being cut." Since we do not recognize the term "buy out," all players in this league that a team no longer wants are "cut." When "cut," the original team pays the salary for the remainder of the contract. |
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jul 6, 2017 18:43:54 GMT
They do, but it also takes away from what the other team has to pay the such as a Deron Williams from last year. That is why they always sign for the minimum when they are bought out. So if Deron is bought out for 1 Million and a team picks him up and pays him 200K. Team one now owes him 800k. I am not sure how to implement this, but I think it should have some thought towards it.
So in theory, If Wash is paying Young 6M, then that money wouldn't be there for the Nuggets.
There is a difference between being "bought out" and "being cut." Since we do not recognize the term "buy out," all players in this league that a team no longer wants are "cut." When "cut," the original team pays the salary for the remainder of the contract. Not if he is picked up though, which is my point. After reading the NBA rules for contracts in regards to releasing a player, this would be pretty hard to keep track of, well, may not. Would take a little bit of math, but not that hard that it couldn't feasibly be done.
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Post by Vlade Divac on Jul 6, 2017 19:09:21 GMT
There is a difference between being "bought out" and "being cut." Since we do not recognize the term "buy out," all players in this league that a team no longer wants are "cut." When "cut," the original team pays the salary for the remainder of the contract. Not if he is picked up though, which is my point. After reading the NBA rules for contracts in regards to releasing a player, this would be pretty hard to keep track of, well, may not. Would take a little bit of math, but not that hard that it couldn't feasibly be done.
Can you point me to the source of information you are using to make this judgement? The buy out thing is relatively new, but I believe that most NBA teams buy out players with big bad contracts instead of cut them while we just simply cut them.
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jul 6, 2017 19:34:43 GMT
Not if he is picked up though, which is my point. After reading the NBA rules for contracts in regards to releasing a player, this would be pretty hard to keep track of, well, may not. Would take a little bit of math, but not that hard that it couldn't feasibly be done.
Can you point me to the source of information you are using to make this judgement? The buy out thing is relatively new, but I believe that most NBA teams buy out players with big bad contracts instead of cut them while we just simply cut them.
I was actually agreeing with you indirectly. If s player is cut, his contract stays on the books of the old team; however, if a new team picks up the player cut, then the original team gets reduce some of the salary over the original contract that was cut. The original team gets a discount on their books as the difference between the newly signed contract and the veteran minimum divided by two. That amount is taken from the original contract. So really, there isn't a huge difference unless someone where to cut a big contract. |
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Post by Vlade Divac on Jul 6, 2017 20:00:56 GMT
I was actually agreeing with you indirectly. If s player is cut, his contract stays on the books of the old team; however, if a new team picks up the player cut, then the original team gets reduce some of the salary over the original contract that was cut. The original team gets a discount on their books as the difference between the newly signed contract and the veteran minimum divided by two. That amount is taken from the original contract. So really, there isn't a huge difference unless someone where to cut a big contract. Oh okay, I see now. While you might be right, I have never heard of that nor done it in a sim league. |
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Post by Ian Noble on Jul 7, 2017 20:45:50 GMT
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Post by Danny Longley on Jul 7, 2017 20:56:17 GMT
Sure, accept.
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Post by Ian Noble on Jul 7, 2017 21:21:45 GMT
Trade passed
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