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Ian Noble

^{Boston Celtics}

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Post by Ian Noble on May 22, 2017 17:53:16 GMT

2017 Draft Tie-Breakers

This year half of the fourteen lottery teams have deadlocked regular season records!

NBA tie-breaker method as described by Wikipedia:

"In the event that teams finish with the same record, each tied team receives the average of the total number of combinations for the positions that they occupy. In 2007, the Minnesota Timberwolves and the Portland Trail Blazers tied for the sixth worst record. The average of the 6th and 7th positions in the lottery was taken, resulting in each team getting 53 combinations (the average of 63 and 43). Should the average number not be an integer, a coin flip is then used to determine which team or teams receive the extra combination. The result of the coin flip is also used to determine who receives the earlier pick in the event that neither of the tied teams wins one of the first three picks via the lottery."

4th Place Tie

^{4. Utah Jazz (via DET)}
^{5. Boston Celtics}

4th place normally has 119 lottery balls.
5th place normally has 88 lottery balls.

207 total lottery balls between two teams does not return an integer so one of these teams will be awarded 104 lottery balls whilst the other will be awarded 103 lottery balls depending upon a 50/50 number that will simulated with a random number in Excel: if the number is above .500 then Detroit will win the tie, below .500 Boston will win, equal to .500 it will be drawn again.

The Utah Jazz won the 50/50 and will enter the lottery as the 4th team with 104 balls. The Boston Celtics will enter the lottery in 5th with 103 balls.

6th Place Tie

^{6. New York Knicks}
^{7. Atlanta Hawks (via PHX)}

6th place normally has 63 lottery balls.
7th place normally has 43 lottery balls.

106 total lottery balls means that both these teams share 53 lottery balls.

New York won the tie-breaker and will pick above Atlanta if neither of them jump into the Top 3.

9th Place Tie

^{9. Philadelphia 76ers}
^{10. Brooklyn Nets}
^{11. Dallas Mavericks}

9th place normally has 17 lottery balls.
10th place normally has 11 lottery balls.
11th place normally has 8 lottery balls.

36 total lottery balls means that all three of these teams share 12 lottery balls each!

Philadelphia won the tie-breaker here, followed by Brooklyn.

Further Tie-Breakers

Both the Clippers and Timberwolves won the other two tie-breakers.

^{16. LA Clippers}
^{17. Indiana Pacers}

^{26. Minnesota Timberwolves}
^{27. Charlotte Hornets}

Tie-breaker results for 4th Place were simmed whilst another GM was remotely connected to my computer.

Last Edit: May 22, 2017 20:46:21 GMT by Ian Noble

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Deleted Posts: 0 Nov 27, 2024 14:35:35 GMT	2017 Draft Tie-Breakers May 22, 2017 17:56:41 GMT Walt Frazier and Jared Montini like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Deleted on May 22, 2017 17:56:41 GMT Can I get a facebook live feed of Ian Noble flipping the coin for 4th place XD

Brian Scalabrine ^{New Orleans Pelicans} All Star Posts: 3,930 Jul 16, 2022 18:43:48 GMT	2017 Draft Tie-Breakers May 22, 2017 18:11:28 GMT via the ProBoards App Jared Montini likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Brian Scalabrine on May 22, 2017 18:11:28 GMT When is the lottery?
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Ian Noble ^{Boston Celtics} Commissioner Posts: 23,774 Nov 20, 2024 15:15:13 GMT	2017 Draft Tie-Breakers May 22, 2017 18:19:44 GMT Brian Scalabrine and Jared Montini like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Ian Noble on May 22, 2017 18:19:44 GMT May 22, 2017 18:11:28 GMT Brian Scalabrine said: When is the lottery? Tonight! I will post the results over the course of two weeks like usual though.
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Brian Scalabrine

^{New Orleans Pelicans}

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2017 Draft Tie-Breakers May 22, 2017 18:49:52 GMT via the ProBoards App Ian Noble, Walt Frazier, and 2 more like this

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Post by Brian Scalabrine on May 22, 2017 18:49:52 GMT

May 22, 2017 18:19:44 GMT Ian Noble said:

May 22, 2017 18:11:28 GMT Brian Scalabrine said:

When is the lottery?

Tonight! I will post the results over the course of two weeks like usual though.

Just remember our deal

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Ian Noble ^{Boston Celtics} Commissioner Posts: 23,774 Nov 20, 2024 15:15:13 GMT	2017 Draft Tie-Breakers May 22, 2017 18:58:04 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Ian Noble on May 22, 2017 18:58:04 GMT Update: Utah won the 50/50 and will draw with 104 balls, whilst I will have 103 balls.
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Alex English

^{Denver Nuggets}

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Aug 7, 2024 15:22:56 GMT

2017 Draft Tie-Breakers May 22, 2017 19:10:46 GMT Walt Frazier likes this

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Post by Alex English on May 22, 2017 19:10:46 GMT

May 22, 2017 18:58:04 GMT Ian Noble said:

Update: Utah won the 50/50 and will draw with 104 balls, whilst I will have 103 balls.

What about the other tie-breakers? It doesn't change lottery odds, but the order for 6th/7th still matters assuming neither won the lottery. Same thing for the order of 9th, 10th and 11th.

But more importantly, as the owner of NYK's 2nd round pick, am I picking 36th? Or 37th? The world is balancing on edge right now. The fate of the Nuggets franchise is at stake. Which will it be!?

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2017 Draft Tie-Breakers May 22, 2017 19:12:25 GMT

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Post by Deleted on May 22, 2017 19:12:25 GMT

May 22, 2017 19:10:46 GMT Alex English said:

May 22, 2017 18:58:04 GMT Ian Noble said:

Update: Utah won the 50/50 and will draw with 104 balls, whilst I will have 103 balls.

What about the other tie-breakers? It doesn't change lottery odds, but the order for 6th/7th still matters assuming neither won the lottery. Same thing for the order of 9th, 10th and 11th.

But more importantly, as the owner of NYK's 2nd round pick, am I picking 36th? Or 37th? The world is balancing on edge right now. The fate of the Nuggets franchise is at stake. Which will it be!?

The tiebreakers for those are calculated differently, the same way playoff tie breaker's are calculated.

Ian Noble

^{Boston Celtics}

Commissioner

Posts: 23,774

Nov 20, 2024 15:15:13 GMT

2017 Draft Tie-Breakers May 22, 2017 19:46:13 GMT

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Post by Ian Noble on May 22, 2017 19:46:13 GMT

May 22, 2017 19:10:46 GMT Alex English said:

May 22, 2017 18:58:04 GMT Ian Noble said:

Update: Utah won the 50/50 and will draw with 104 balls, whilst I will have 103 balls.

What about the other tie-breakers? It doesn't change lottery odds, but the order for 6th/7th still matters assuming neither won the lottery. Same thing for the order of 9th, 10th and 11th.

But more importantly, as the owner of NYK's 2nd round pick, am I picking 36th? Or 37th? The world is balancing on edge right now. The fate of the Nuggets franchise is at stake. Which will it be!?

I'll do these next!

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Jeremiah Hill Former Grizzlies GM Franchise Player Posts: 6,333 Jun 18, 2024 13:48:51 GMT	2017 Draft Tie-Breakers May 22, 2017 20:12:00 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Jeremiah Hill on May 22, 2017 20:12:00 GMT Can I watch the lottery.
	Personal Rating System so you know where I'm coming from. Superstars 90+ All-Star 85-89 Great Starters 81-84 Starter Caliber 79-80 Good Bench Guys 77-78 3pt Specialist type guys 75-76 Prospects/End of the Bench 69-74

Jared Montini ^{Utah Jazz} All Star Posts: 3,241 Oct 1, 2024 1:18:01 GMT	2017 Draft Tie-Breakers May 22, 2017 20:14:20 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Jared Montini on May 22, 2017 20:14:20 GMT Me too ^
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Ian Noble ^{Boston Celtics} Commissioner Posts: 23,774 Nov 20, 2024 15:15:13 GMT	2017 Draft Tie-Breakers May 22, 2017 20:21:05 GMT Jared Montini likes this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Ian Noble on May 22, 2017 20:21:05 GMT Sorry guys it's already over and done with! You can watch the last two tie breakers here though:
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Jared Montini

^{Utah Jazz}

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Post by Jared Montini on May 22, 2017 20:35:13 GMT

May 22, 2017 20:21:05 GMT Ian Noble said:

Sorry guys it's already over and done with!

You can watch the last two tie breakers here though:

let's go! My pick moved down to 7th, take that Jay Z

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Ian Noble

^{Boston Celtics}

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Post by Ian Noble on May 22, 2017 20:46:46 GMT

Results for the final two tie-breakers announced:

May 22, 2017 17:53:16 GMT Ian Noble said:

Further Tie-Breakers

Both the Clippers and Timberwolves won the other two tie-breakers.

^{16. LA Clippers}
^{17. Indiana Pacers}

^{26. Minnesota Timberwolves}
^{27. Charlotte Hornets}

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Alex English

^{Denver Nuggets}

Trade Committee

Posts: 5,791

Aug 7, 2024 15:22:56 GMT

2017 Draft Tie-Breakers May 22, 2017 22:33:06 GMT

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Post by Alex English on May 22, 2017 22:33:06 GMT

May 22, 2017 19:12:25 GMT @riogho said:

The tiebreakers for those are calculated differently, the same way playoff tie breaker's are calculated.

Nah, it's done via random draw. Check it out:

www.nba.com/article/2017/04/18/ties-broken-2017-nba-draft

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Walt Frazier

^{Minnesota Timberwolves}

Trade Committee

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Jul 19, 2024 1:08:44 GMT

2017 Draft Tie-Breakers May 23, 2017 1:38:44 GMT via mobile James Kay likes this

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Post by Walt Frazier on May 23, 2017 1:38:44 GMT

May 22, 2017 20:46:46 GMT Ian Noble said:

Results for the final two tie-breakers announced:

May 22, 2017 17:53:16 GMT Ian Noble said:

Further Tie-Breakers

Both the Clippers and Timberwolves won the other two tie-breakers.

^{16. LA Clippers}
^{17. Indiana Pacers}

^{26. Minnesota Timberwolves}
^{27. Charlotte Hornets}

Living the dream!

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Danny Longley ^{Dallas Mavericks} Trade Committee Emeritus Posts: 1,957 Nov 15, 2024 13:05:30 GMT	2017 Draft Tie-Breakers May 23, 2017 3:57:32 GMT via mobile Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Danny Longley on May 23, 2017 3:57:32 GMT jfc, those wins against the Clippers really killed me.
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on May 22, 2017 18:11:28 GMT

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Post by Ian Noble on May 22, 2017 18:58:04 GMT

Post by Alex English on May 22, 2017 19:10:46 GMT

Post by Deleted on May 22, 2017 19:12:25 GMT

Post by Ian Noble on May 22, 2017 19:46:13 GMT

Post by Jeremiah Hill on May 22, 2017 20:12:00 GMT

Post by Jared Montini on May 22, 2017 20:14:20 GMT

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Post by Ian Noble on May 22, 2017 20:46:46 GMT

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