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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Apr 18, 2017 0:55:19 GMT
Current Rating: 76
Suggested Rating: 79
Really just kicks ass, super efficient, good passing. Kinda meh on defense but his offense is just great.
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Post by Jared Montini on Apr 18, 2017 0:56:54 GMT
80
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Post by Charles Barkley on Apr 18, 2017 2:15:32 GMT
I don't think Gary Harris is as good as TJ Warren, but I'll go with a 78.5
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Apr 18, 2017 5:22:52 GMT
I don't think Gary Harris is as good as TJ Warren, but I'll go with a 78.5  Well if you look at the results, Harris shoots 15.7% better from 3 point range at 42% which is a great number. TJ is a bad 3 point shooter. His effective FG% is at 58.7% compared to 51.1% from TJ. Harris is a better passer both in total assists and efficiency. As a guard his rebounding is pretty decent but that and a .5 blocks are the only things that TJ is better at. One played big minutes for a pretty good team, the other played pretty big minutes for a terrible team. If you pull up the advanced stats the conclusion isn't much different. To come to the conclusion that TJ is better just means you didn't look it up. |
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Apr 18, 2017 13:27:58 GMT
80
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Post by Charles Barkley on Apr 18, 2017 14:09:59 GMT
I don't think Gary Harris is as good as TJ Warren, but I'll go with a 78.5 Well if you look at the results, Harris shoots 15.7% better from 3 point range at 42% which is a great number. TJ is a bad 3 point shooter. His effective FG% is at 58.7% compared to 51.1% from TJ. Harris is a better passer both in total assists and efficiency. As a guard his rebounding is pretty decent but that and a .5 blocks are the only things that TJ is better at. One played big minutes for a pretty good team, the other played pretty big minutes for a terrible team. If you pull up the advanced stats the conclusion isn't much different. To come to the conclusion that TJ is better just means you didn't look it up. The thing about me saying "I think.." means it is my opinion which does not need to be based on anything. I did look it up, seen that Gary Harris's are better, but I also know that Harris has been playing solid minutes since he was a rookie, and TJ has sat the bench because the Suns are dumb and thought PJ Tucker and Green were good ideas. Since starting for the last half the season or so, TJ was really good. He isn't a lights out shooter because that isn't his game, he gets to the hole and scores. |
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Apr 18, 2017 16:43:43 GMT
The good thing about facts is it doesn't matter what you think.
I get it if someone is playing fewer minutes or maybe the advanced stats put someone ahead and there is some conjecture. But they play basically the same minutes, counting stats for Harris are better, advanced stats say Harris is better. Now its not BLOW him away better and perhaps one could say TJ might be a bit more athletic but I don't really think that.
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Apr 18, 2017 16:49:30 GMT
The good thing about facts is it doesn't matter what you think. C'mon Jeremiah. I think Gary Harris is better than TJ Warren too but that's a perfectly valid opinion for Chuck to have. Gary has Jokic, Gallo, Wilson Chandler and a much more effective offense behind him which helps his efficiency a ton. Warren has been playing on the biggest mess of a team in the NBA, who've been tanking all season and has Booker and Bledsoe hog most of the offense. Its not hard to see how that could've positively impacted Gary's stats and negatively impacted TJ's. Not to mention that their stats don't show defensive impact, I'm not sure how good Warren is but I know Harris isn't terrific on that end. If you think its a fact that Gary Harris is better than TJ Warren then you're wrong. There's absolutely room for debate on this. |
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Kevin Hollis
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Apr 18, 2017 16:59:43 GMT
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