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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Mar 24, 2017 19:27:02 GMT
Current rating: 80
Currently averaging about 10 and 8 in 22 minutes a game. Has no jump shot, mediocre passer at best, undersized for a big and not a good defender, good rebounder but not otherworldly, pretty good finisher as well. However I think its telling the Nuggets have been trying to dump him for a while and are hesitant to give him more playing time.
Suggested rating: 77
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Mar 24, 2017 23:17:34 GMT
He is slowly getting left behind in Denver. I believe the arrival of Plumlee only made it worse for him. 79
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Mar 25, 2017 3:11:02 GMT
He is not regressing! He just don't fit Denver right now and the modern age of basketball! 80!
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Mar 25, 2017 3:22:45 GMT
He is not regressing! He just don't fit the modern age of basketball Why shouldn't we lower him for this? |
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Post by Jared Montini on Mar 25, 2017 4:17:55 GMT
76
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Mar 25, 2017 4:31:02 GMT
He is not regressing! He just don't fit the modern age of basketball Why shouldn't we lower him for this? Because his numbers are not down because of his diminish skills but more of the style of their team and his role. Last time I check, ratings stands for the skills of the players. Not the numbers that he is producing. |
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Post by Walt Frazier on Mar 25, 2017 4:38:26 GMT
Why shouldn't we lower him for this? Because his numbers are not down because of his diminish skills but more of the style of their team and his role. Last time I check, ratings stands for the skills of the players. Not the numbers that he is producing. At some point we do seem to also say "hey, this guy is impacting the game more in D5 than RL so we should fix that." His RL impact is that of a 77 so why is he rated 80, is the other thought process. |
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Mar 25, 2017 5:07:42 GMT
Why shouldn't we lower him for this? Because his numbers are not down because of his diminish skills but more of the style of their team and his role. Last time I check, ratings stands for the skills of the players. Not the numbers that he is producing. Have to agree with Brian and Walt on this one. We can't play the "he is still the same, but just never plays". Doesnt really work that way in D5 where we try to keep up-to-date as best as possible |
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Mar 25, 2017 6:10:23 GMT
Because his numbers are not down because of his diminish skills but more of the style of their team and his role. Last time I check, ratings stands for the skills of the players. Not the numbers that he is producing. At some point we do seem to also say "hey, this guy is impacting the game more in D5 than RL so we should fix that." His RL impact is that of a 77 so why is he rated 80, is the other thought process. I dont have a problem with that thought process. But, you also need to accept mine. |
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Mar 25, 2017 6:31:18 GMT
At some point we do seem to also say "hey, this guy is impacting the game more in D5 than RL so we should fix that." His RL impact is that of a 77 so why is he rated 80, is the other thought process. I dont have a problem with that thought process. But, you also need to accept mine. Can't have it both ways, that doesn't make sense. |
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Mar 25, 2017 7:00:05 GMT
I dont have a problem with that thought process. But, you also need to accept mine. Can't have it both ways, that doesn't make sense. ?? For Kenneth, I am standing my pat that his production did not diminished because of his skills but more of his fit in this era and in his team. Last time I check there was no guideline regarding our thought process in making our votes. |
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Mar 25, 2017 7:20:07 GMT
Can't have it both ways, that doesn't make sense. ?? For Kenneth, I am standing my pat that his production did not diminished because of his skills but more of his fit in this era and in his team. Last time I check there was no guideline regarding our thought process in making our votes. You said that they had to accept your stance, but you can't have it both ways is what I am saying. |
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Mar 25, 2017 8:26:27 GMT
?? For Kenneth, I am standing my pat that his production did not diminished because of his skills but more of his fit in this era and in his team. Last time I check there was no guideline regarding our thought process in making our votes. You said that they had to accept your stance, but you can't have it both ways is what I am saying. What I mean is they/you should also respect the other thought processes in making vote decisions. Accepting it doesn't meant you agree. |
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Mar 25, 2017 15:45:25 GMT
You said that they had to accept your stance, but you can't have it both ways is what I am saying. What I mean is they/you should also respect the other thought processes in making vote decisions. Accepting it doesn't meant you agree. Does your vote not count? There is their acceptance right there. |
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Post by Mike Krzyzewski on Mar 26, 2017 14:37:20 GMT
Although it can certainly be argued he should be lowered, I think a 76 is way to tough on him...I vote to keep him at 80.
His last 3 games in D5:
6 PT - 9 RB - 3 AST
14 PT - 6 RB - 0 AST
6 PT - 7 RB - 2 AST
Is that really off of what he is doing in real life?
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Mar 27, 2017 5:45:33 GMT
79 is fair for me cause he is still really athletic I imagine most of his stats are in that anyways.
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Post by Alex English on Mar 28, 2017 18:19:41 GMT
79
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Post by Walt Frazier on Apr 2, 2017 2:48:13 GMT
78
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