Lakers/Bucks

[Magic Johnson]

Los Angeles Lakers trade:

2012 HOU 1st round pick
72 - Kyle Korver - $5,000,000 - $5,000,000
76 - Ed Davis - $2,063,040 - $2,207,040 - $3,153,860 - $4,361,789
70 - Dahntay Jones - $2,700,000 - $2,900,000

Total Outgoing Salary: $9,763,040
Total Incoming Salary: $12,396,337

Milwaukee Bucks trade:

76 - Arron Afflalo$7,750,000 - $7,750,000 - $7,750,000 $7,750,000 - $7,937,500
74 - Damien Wilkins - $1,146,337
72 - Shaun Livingston - $3,500,000 - $3,500,000

Total Outgoing Salary: $12,396,337
Total Incoming Salary: $9,763,040

I accept this trade.

[Oscar Robertson]

We accept because we get a good young player in Ed Davis and a first round pick this year.

[Walt Frazier]

Uh...

Ed Davis is arguably worth more than Afflalo alone. Afflalo is a little overpaid (mainly the length and lack of flexibility in the contract)...whereas Davis gets paid less for a similar, if not better, overall effect on the team (plus he's younger)...and his contract is friendly - cheapish right now, can be released by not picking up his TO after 2 more years.

Livingson and Korver pretty much cancel out, so do Wilkins and Dahntay.

Basically, I don't understand why the 1st is in here, at all.

[Aubrey Graham]

Don't understand why LAL is giving up a potential 1st rounder in this deal. More reasoning from Magic please?

[Magic Johnson]

Alright, I really wanted to get a good solid SF on the team, and I tried to look at offers for a top tier SF (i.e. Harden, Gallinari) and thought in those situations that I might still be a piece short on getting that type of player.

With a solid SF, my starting 5 and entire team would be complete

PG Lowry
SG Kobe
SF Afflalo
PF Bargs
C Bynum

I'd say not a easy team to beat

so this is the best most realistic offer I could think for that package, I wasn't sure if Afflalo was gonna be simply available for a first or even E. Davis, thus I involved both in the trade.

Also I wasn't sure how good E. Davis or the future can be, while Afflalo is a proven commodity who is a proven shooter and EXCELLENT DEFENDER, that had a solid year last year and can only get better (he's only 27).

Here's Afflalo's stats

PPG: 15.2
RPG: 3.1
APG 2.1
BPG: 0.2
SPG: 0.6

FG: .472
3FG: .398
FT: .798

MIN: 33.6

[Deleted]

Isn't Afflalo a little small to play SF?

[Magic Johnson]

Jul 31, 2012 3:59:16 GMT Vlade Divac said:

Isn't Afflalo a little small to play SF?

Honestly I don't think he's that small to play SF.

I mean if you look at him, he essentially has the same build and type of player as Thabo Sefolosha (except a better offensive threat), and only a inch or two shorter then him at best.

[Ian Noble]

Arron Afflalo is not a Small Forward. Also I find it weird that you're trading away Korver so soon after acquiring him. He fits really well at Small Forward and completes your lineup.

[Magic Johnson]

Jul 31, 2012 19:29:59 GMT Ian Noble said:

Arron Afflalo is not a Small Forward. Also I find it weird that you're trading away Korver so soon after acquiring him. He fits really well at Small Forward and completes your lineup.

The problem is whenever I went Korver at SF, the game RESETS itself and puts Kleiza back at SF, which is the last thing I want, i don't want Kleiza at SF, I want him at PF.

[Andrei Kirilenko]

Accept

[Walt Frazier]

Shoot me if you wanna, but I gotta reject.

Afflalo just isn't a SF really, and his contract, while not "bad"...isn't exactly too friendly either. Davis has legit potential and has already shined a bit.

The 1st is just unnecessary to the total deal, IMO.

Reject

[Ian Noble]

I think the Lakers get raped in this deal but it just doesn't seem enough to reject because the pieces aren't worth an enormous amount in total.

I do think Magic Johnson is gradually diluting his team's talent though. If this was real life Kobe would be calling out Kupchack, lol.

[Magic Johnson]

Aug 1, 2012 20:27:26 GMT Ian Noble said:

I think the Lakers get raped in this deal but it just doesn't seem enough to reject because the pieces aren't worth an enormous amount in total.

I do think Magic Johnson is gradually diluting his team's talent though. If this was real life Kobe would be calling out Kupchack, lol.

KB already called Kupchak out once in real life so not a problem plus I think Cupcakes is overrated as a GM, everyone sucks his **** just because he got Gasol by ACCIDENT.

BUT ANYWAYS back to the trade, I am fine with either way you make this decision, if you approve or decline I am fine with both decisions, no hard feelings either way.

[Aubrey Graham]

I'm going to have to reject this as well, I see no need for the inclusion of HOU's first round pick.

[Glenn Robinson]

Any word on if this trade is accepted yet? Would love to get my roster situated so I can make future moves. Also would just like to say that I think the argument saying a player can't play a position because of height etc isn't fair. If a GM is building his team, he should be able to build it how he see's fit and if Mr. Johnson wants Afflalo at SF, I think that's fair and not a good enough reason to reject a trade. Thanks again!

[Alex English]

Aug 4, 2012 20:49:16 GMT Glenn Robinson said:

Any word on if this trade is accepted yet? Would love to get my roster situated so I can make future moves. Also would just like to say that I think the argument saying a player can't play a position because of height etc isn't fair. If a GM is building his team, he should be able to build it how he see's fit and if Mr. Johnson wants Afflalo at SF, I think that's fair and not a good enough reason to reject a trade. Thanks again!

Looks like it's 2-2. You'll have to wait for Isiah Thomas to vote.

[Isiah Thomas]

Too much to give up for pretty much just Afflalo

I reject

[Glenn Robinson]

Aug 5, 2012 20:24:27 GMT Isiah Thomas said:

Too much to give up for pretty much just Afflalo

I reject

Bummer

Just goes to show, small market teams can't even come out on top even in trades. Looks like we're gonna have to go back to the drawing board.

[Ian Noble]

Trade rejected.