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Post by Ian Noble on Jan 15, 2017 14:15:13 GMT
Current: 81
Suggested: 86
Jabari has gone Over 9000 this season alongside Giannis.
14.1ppg -> 20.8ppg
5.2rpg -> 5.7rpg
1.7apg -> 2.6apg
9/35 3PT in 75games -> 56/133 3PT in 38games.
25% 3PT -> 42% 3PT
Jabari's also 9th in the Eastern Frontcourt's All Star Votes, just behind Paul George (and he has more than double the number of votes Andrew Wiggins does). The other night when Giannis was out, Jabari led the way to get a win versus the Spurs whilst guarding/being guarded by Kawhi Leonard.
Jabari is the quiet-side of the Bucks duo, whilst Giannis is taking all the attention Jabari's been quietly dominating alongside him and not getting as much attention. We have Giannis Antetokounmpo scheduled for an increase to 89, Jabari shouldn't be too far behind.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2017 14:17:21 GMT
82
He was rated too high in the first place. He literally brings worse than nothing on defense. Jabari may one day be competing for scoring titles, but his overall +- in a game is always gonna be average starter material.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2017 14:17:56 GMT
Oh, wait, I mean
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Post by Ian Noble on Jan 15, 2017 14:21:38 GMT
82 He was rated too high in the first place. He literally brings worse than nothing on defense. Jabari may one day be competing for scoring titles, but his overall +- in a game is always gonna be average starter material. So he's Carmelo Anthony?  |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2017 14:24:49 GMT
82 He was rated too high in the first place. He literally brings worse than nothing on defense. Jabari may one day be competing for scoring titles, but his overall +- in a game is always gonna be average starter material. So he's Carmelo Anthony? Melo is better than Jabari on defense and a better rebounder and creator for others. Jabari is still young though, but at this point Melo exceeded Jabari in all three of those areas. Jabari seems to just grab the ball sometimes ignores everyone else on the team, it's been going in so that's fine, but Melo at least *looks*, Jabari puts his head down on almost every drive he does. With all that being said, I think prime Jabari could look a lot like 30 year old Melo. |
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Jan 15, 2017 14:28:10 GMT
I think anywhere from 80-82 sounds good for now, so I vote no change
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jan 15, 2017 14:33:35 GMT
I'll give him 83, he's shooting 0 3 pointers in the sim that needs to be adjusted for.
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Post by Ian Noble on Jan 15, 2017 14:41:30 GMT
I think prime Jabari could look a lot like 30 year old Melo. Current Jabari is already pretty much as good as 30y/o Carmelo. Current Jabari: 20.8 / 5.7 / 2.6 30y/o Melo: 24.2 / 6.6 / 3.1 30 year old Melo was rated 92. It wasn't until 2 years later (this season) he was moved to an 88. edit: Shooting Percentages: Jabari / Melo @ 30 / Prime MeloFG 50% / 44% / 45% 3P 42% / 34% / 40% |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 15, 2017 14:51:13 GMT
I think prime Jabari could look a lot like 30 year old Melo. Current Jabari is already pretty much as good as 30y/o Carmelo. Current Jabari: 20.8 / 5.7 / 2.6 30y/o Melo: 24.2 / 6.6 / 3.1 30 year old Melo was rated 92. It wasn't until 2 years later (this season) he was moved to an 88.
I voted melo an 82. dynasty5ive.proboards.com/post/58507/thread |
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jan 15, 2017 15:15:03 GMT
82 He was rated too high in the first place. He literally brings worse than nothing on defense. Jabari may one day be competing for scoring titles, but his overall +- in a game is always gonna be average starter material. Feel the same as Adam on this one, 82 |
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Post by Ian Noble on Jan 15, 2017 15:43:28 GMT
Current Jabari is already pretty much as good as 30y/o Carmelo. Current Jabari: 20.8 / 5.7 / 2.6 30y/o Melo: 24.2 / 6.6 / 3.1 30 year old Melo was rated 92. It wasn't until 2 years later (this season) he was moved to an 88.
I voted melo an 82. dynasty5ive.proboards.com/post/58507/thread |
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jan 15, 2017 17:07:31 GMT
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jan 15, 2017 17:35:49 GMT
83 for now
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Post by Alex English on Jan 15, 2017 18:11:10 GMT
82. He was definitely overrated last season. He doesn't need much of a boost, just to have his ratings adjusted.
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Post by Charles Barkley on Jan 15, 2017 18:27:11 GMT
82
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Post by Ian Noble on Jan 15, 2017 18:37:35 GMT
Damn! Giannis gets 89 and Jabari gets 82? I'm surprised.
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Post by James Kay on Jan 15, 2017 19:39:12 GMT
Damn! Giannis gets 89 and Jabari gets 82? I'm surprised. Really? Giannis is more athletic, better defense, better facilitating, better ball handler. |
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Post by James Kay on Jan 15, 2017 19:40:04 GMT
83
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Post by Ian Noble on Jan 15, 2017 19:50:29 GMT
Damn! Giannis gets 89 and Jabari gets 82? I'm surprised. Really? Giannis is more athletic, better defense, better facilitating, better ball handler. Jabari is just as athletic as Giannis, if not more so? Jabari's quicker, has better hops and is stronger. Giannis has more length. Jabari's also a better scorer than Giannis. |
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Jan 15, 2017 19:54:40 GMT
83
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Post by James Kay on Jan 15, 2017 20:03:11 GMT
Really? Giannis is more athletic, better defense, better facilitating, better ball handler. Jabari is just as athletic as Giannis, if not more so? Oh, Ian. I didn't realize it was this bad... |
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Post by Ian Noble on Jan 15, 2017 20:05:05 GMT
James KayJabari's 6'8" The rim is 10' That's a 40 inch vert
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jan 15, 2017 20:11:16 GMT
Really? Giannis is more athletic, better defense, better facilitating, better ball handler. Jabari is just as athletic as Giannis, if not more so? Jabari's quicker, has better hops and is stronger. Giannis has more length. Jabari's also a better scorer than Giannis. Jim Jones must be hiding in the UK. |
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Post by Ian Noble on Jan 15, 2017 20:13:11 GMT
Jabari is just as athletic as Giannis, if not more so? Oh, Ian. I didn't realize it was this bad... These are examples of great length because Giannis barely needs to jump to dunk it. But Giannis's vertical leap is not as high or explosive as Jabari, even though his reach, and his maximum vertical reach, will be higher. It's not so much athleticism as it is wingspan. |
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Post by Ian Noble on Jan 15, 2017 20:18:24 GMT
I'm not saying Giannis isn't also an athletic freak of nature, I'm just saying if you're talking athleticism Jabari's got more quickness, vert and strength.
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Post by Charles Barkley on Jan 16, 2017 4:32:20 GMT
James Kay Jabari's 6'8" The rim is 10' That's a 40 inch vert That's not how vert is calculated. You forgot about his arms being above his head If you seriously think that Jabari is more athletic than Giannis, you're nuts. |
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Post by Ian Noble on Jan 16, 2017 9:23:05 GMT
James Kay Jabari's 6'8" The rim is 10' That's a 40 inch vert That's not how vert is calculated. You forgot about his arms being above his head If you seriously think that Jabari is more athletic than Giannis, you're nuts. There's 12 inches in a foot. Jabari's hit his head on the rim, so it doesn't matter how high his arms reach. 10' -> 6'8" = 12 + 12 + 12 + 4 inches. That's 40 inches. This thread makes me feel like I'm going insane or something. |
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jan 16, 2017 17:46:55 GMT
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Post by Charles Barkley on Jan 16, 2017 17:56:40 GMT
That's not how vert is calculated. You forgot about his arms being above his head If you seriously think that Jabari is more athletic than Giannis, you're nuts. There's 12 inches in a foot. Jabari's hit his head on the rim, so it doesn't matter how high his arms reach. 10' -> 6'8" = 12 + 12 + 12 + 4 inches. That's 40 inches. This thread makes me feel like I'm going insane or something. Yes but that means I have a 44 inch vertical if I get rim and pull it down and pull myself up. The freeze frame on the video before you hit play clearly shows him pulling himself up and pulling the rim down. I understand that it happens almost simultaneously with his jump. But a 36 inch vert for a 20 year old professional basketball player isn't something that is outrageous. Jabari may have a decent vertical for an NBA player, but he is not more athletic than Giannis. You are going insane if you believe this is as true. |
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Post by Jared Montini on Jan 16, 2017 23:33:28 GMT
84 hes a beast
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