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Post by Alex English on Aug 3, 2016 22:04:29 GMT
 Chicago Bulls - Norris ColeYear 1: $1,500,000 Year 2: $2,123,646 Year 3: $2,747,292 Year 4: $3,370,938 Total: $9,741,876 Norris Cole will sign with the Chicago Bulls. They have agreed to a 4 year contract worth $9,741,876. |
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Post by Walt Frazier on Aug 3, 2016 23:37:26 GMT
Seriously, there is a lot more money out there. These tankers....man. I think we should implement a salary floor. Top teams are just eating up very legitimately solid players for pennies on the dollar, and long-term contracts to boot, which I think is partially on the PA but the amount of money is on the tankers. Bid, Damn you, Bid!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 3, 2016 23:39:32 GMT
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Aug 4, 2016 0:02:00 GMT
Seriously, there is a lot more money out there. These tankers....man. I think we should implement a salary floor. Top teams are just eating up very legitimately solid players for pennies on the dollar, and long-term contracts to boot, which I think is partially on the PA but the amount of money is on the tankers. Bid, Damn you, Bid! It is starting to get old really quick. This is ridiculous. At least make them sign one to two year contracts, not four. |
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Post by Alex English on Aug 4, 2016 0:25:05 GMT
I think this is a good contract for Norris Cole. He's terrible and not getting a rating increase any time soon. I guess he's still living on some Miami Heat playoff hype, but take a look at his stats, he actually sucks. It's not like he's a young player either.
There is a 90% chance he ends up in the same situation next year if he just signed for the year. Everyone will focus on the better players, he'll be ignored, then someone will try and sign him cheaply at the end of free agency. Now he's guaranteed almost $10 million. That's much better than the $1-$2 million yearly deals he'd be getting by playing the short term game.
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Aug 4, 2016 0:58:41 GMT
I think this is a good contract for Norris Cole. He's terrible and not getting a rating increase any time soon. I guess he's still living on some Miami Heat playoff hype, but take a look at his stats, he actually sucks. It's not like he's a young player either. There is a 90% chance he ends up in the same situation next year if he just signed for the year. Everyone will focus on the better players, he'll be ignored, then someone will try and sign him cheaply at the end of free agency. Now he's guaranteed almost $10 million. That's much better than the $1-$2 million yearly deals he'd be getting by playing the short term game. Not really complaining too much about what you can do as a player agent. It is more of a reflection of half the league trying to play the tanking game. |
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Post by Shane Battier on Aug 4, 2016 2:26:17 GMT
Welcome to Chicago, Norris!
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Post by Walt Frazier on Aug 4, 2016 3:00:04 GMT
I think this is a good contract for Norris Cole. He's terrible and not getting a rating increase any time soon. I guess he's still living on some Miami Heat playoff hype, but take a look at his stats, he actually sucks. It's not like he's a young player either. There is a 90% chance he ends up in the same situation next year if he just signed for the year. Everyone will focus on the better players, he'll be ignored, then someone will try and sign him cheaply at the end of free agency. Now he's guaranteed almost $10 million. That's much better than the $1-$2 million yearly deals he'd be getting by playing the short term game. I hear you Alex. The problem really is the tankers who could offer Norris 8 million over 2 years and he'd probably take that, with a better chance to contribute. And yea, maybe I responded in the wrong thread, this could be better in the Mo Williams thread, but the general point is there. Salary floor may not be a bad idea. |
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Aug 4, 2016 3:16:25 GMT
Seriously, there is a lot more money out there. These tankers....man. I think we should implement a salary floor. Top teams are just eating up very legitimately solid players for pennies on the dollar, and long-term contracts to boot, which I think is partially on the PA but the amount of money is on the tankers. Bid, Damn you, Bid! Seriously, there are 10 teams with over $19 mil in cap space!! |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2016 13:38:30 GMT
Seriously, there is a lot more money out there. These tankers....man. I think we should implement a salary floor. Top teams are just eating up very legitimately solid players for pennies on the dollar, and long-term contracts to boot, which I think is partially on the PA but the amount of money is on the tankers. Bid, Damn you, Bid! Seriously, there are 10 teams with over $19 mil in cap space!! Salary floors won't work if guys I actually want won't come to my team. You'll see me offer Norris Cole a 1 year Max and then cut him to meet a salary floor. |
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Aug 4, 2016 13:49:55 GMT
Seriously, there are 10 teams with over $19 mil in cap space!! Salary floors won't work if guys I actually want won't come to my team. You'll see me offer Norris Cole a 1 year Max and then cut him to meet a salary floor. I am sure they can implement a rule to prevent that. |
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Post by Danny Longley on Aug 4, 2016 14:08:01 GMT
Seriously, there are 10 teams with over $19 mil in cap space!! Salary floors won't work if guys I actually want won't come to my team. You'll see me offer Norris Cole a 1 year Max and then cut him to meet a salary floor. Considering how actually signing people to hit the cap floor actually happens in the NBA, I'd prefer it to the small restrictive contracts we have going around. If these contracts were the norm IRL, I'm preeeetty sure we'd be headed for another lockout with so many players signing for 1-2% of the cap with millions unspent. I mean, seriously - nobody IRL signs for the minimum for more than a year or two unless it's a Summer League guy/journeyman trying to make a team. At the very least, it would increase bidding on players and hopefully lead to more realistic totals. The problem for me is, what's a fitting penalty for being under the cap floor? Because what happens IRL is that the difference between the cap and cap floor is just paid to the other players on the roster or something to that effect. |
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Post by Walt Frazier on Aug 4, 2016 14:14:25 GMT
Salary floors won't work if guys I actually want won't come to my team. You'll see me offer Norris Cole a 1 year Max and then cut him to meet a salary floor. Considering how actually signing people to hit the cap floor actually happens in the NBA, I'd prefer it to the small restrictive contracts we have going around. If these contracts were the norm IRL, I'm preeeetty sure we'd be headed for another lockout with so many players signing for 1-2% of the cap with millions unspent. I mean, seriously - nobody IRL signs for the minimum for more than a year or two unless it's a Summer League guy/journeyman trying to make a team. At the very least, it would increase bidding on players and hopefully lead to more realistic totals. The problem for me is, what's a fitting penalty for being under the cap floor? Because what happens IRL is that the difference between the cap and cap floor is just paid to the other players on the roster or something to that effect. Could do a similar penalty to what we have implemented for going over the Hard Cap. Isn't it related to Draft Pick forfeiture? The tanking teams will certainly have incentive to spend the money then! |
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Post by Walt Frazier on Aug 4, 2016 14:15:28 GMT
Seriously, there are 10 teams with over $19 mil in cap space!! Salary floors won't work if guys I actually want won't come to my team. You'll see me offer Norris Cole a 1 year Max and then cut him to meet a salary floor. Fair point. You could have sent a one-year, 5 or 6 million offer to Mo Williams. He'd be depth and a trade chip, and he'd make as much this year as he does in his whole contract he signed. |
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Aug 4, 2016 15:33:06 GMT
Considering how actually signing people to hit the cap floor actually happens in the NBA, I'd prefer it to the small restrictive contracts we have going around. If these contracts were the norm IRL, I'm preeeetty sure we'd be headed for another lockout with so many players signing for 1-2% of the cap with millions unspent. I mean, seriously - nobody IRL signs for the minimum for more than a year or two unless it's a Summer League guy/journeyman trying to make a team. At the very least, it would increase bidding on players and hopefully lead to more realistic totals. The problem for me is, what's a fitting penalty for being under the cap floor? Because what happens IRL is that the difference between the cap and cap floor is just paid to the other players on the roster or something to that effect. Could do a similar penalty to what we have implemented for going over the Hard Cap. Isn't it related to Draft Pick forfeiture? The tanking teams will certainly have incentive to spend the money then! I think this is a good idea, just to spread some guys around to different teams. |
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2016 17:33:05 GMT
Salary floors won't work if guys I actually want won't come to my team. You'll see me offer Norris Cole a 1 year Max and then cut him to meet a salary floor. Fair point. You could have sent a one-year, 5 or 6 million offer to Mo Williams. He'd be depth and a trade chip, and he'd make as much this year as he does in his whole contract he signed. He'd also win me games between the start of the season and December 15th! |
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Post by Walt Frazier on Aug 4, 2016 21:27:34 GMT
Fair point. You could have sent a one-year, 5 or 6 million offer to Mo Williams. He'd be depth and a trade chip, and he'd make as much this year as he does in his whole contract he signed. He'd also win me games between the start of the season and December 15th! Yea I know. That's why this works in the NBA but with Ian's stance on tanking I guess this would go against that a bit. |
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Post by JR Wiles on Aug 4, 2016 21:32:46 GMT
He'd also win me games between the start of the season and December 15th! Yea I know. That's why this works in the NBA but with Ian's stance on tanking I guess this would go against that a bit. players must be signed for a 2 year minimum anyway correct? GMs cant sign players to one year deals to prevent Gms from trading expirings in an unfair way!! |
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Post by Walt Frazier on Aug 4, 2016 22:11:43 GMT
Yea I know. That's why this works in the NBA but with Ian's stance on tanking I guess this would go against that a bit. players must be signed for a 2 year minimum anyway correct? GMs cant sign players to one year deals to prevent Gms from trading expirings in an unfair way!! Are you talking real life or D5? |
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Post by JR Wiles on Aug 5, 2016 14:21:50 GMT
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Post by Ian Noble on Aug 8, 2016 10:41:38 GMT
Alex English - Cole's contract increases by more than 11% on the first year of this deal, can you check it? Thx!
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Post by Alex English on Aug 8, 2016 17:36:41 GMT
Alex English - Cole's contract increases by more than 11% on the first year of this deal, can you check it? Thx! It increases by the amount of the minimum contract. |
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Post by Ian Noble on Aug 8, 2016 17:55:12 GMT
Alex English - Cole's contract increases by more than 11% on the first year of this deal, can you check it? Thx! It increases by the amount of the minimum contract. My bad! |
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