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MLE
Jul 18, 2016 19:25:53 GMT
Post by Ian Noble on Jul 18, 2016 19:25:53 GMT
Help me out here guys, I'm struggling to find whether a team is allowed to use the MLE if they go over the cap after salaries progress on July 1st. I've been using this as a resource and not found anything. By my understanding the absolute technical definition of the MLE: A team can only use the MLE if they are over the salary cap when salaries progress on July 1st. However teams salaries in D5 have always deviated throughout the year, over and under the cap, and whether they use the MLE or not merely depends upon whether the are over the cap at the time they want to make their signing, we've never bothered using July 1st as the standard date.
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MLE
Jul 18, 2016 19:38:29 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2016 19:38:29 GMT
www.cbafaq.com/salarycap.htm#Q25Best analogy to our version of the MLE with the situations you provide: "if a team is above the apron and spends any of its Taxpayer Mid-Level exception, it cannot drop below the apron and spend the remaining money as part of its Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception. Finally, a team that was above the apron but did not spend any of its Taxpayer Mid-Level exception has full access to the Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception if it later drops below the apron." EDIT: I am addressing the Troy situation here, let me dig up the stuff on when a team is decided to be in the MLE.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2016 19:42:58 GMT
And here it is Ian, looks like I was wrong in the previous post and in SB, using the same link I gave earlier:
"A team's exceptions may be lost entirely, or the team may never receive them to begin with. This happens when their team salary is so low that when the exceptions are added to the team salary, the sum is still below the salary cap. If this happens when the exceptions arise, then the team doesn't get their exceptions at all. If the team salary ever drops below this level during the year, then any unused portions of their exceptions are lost (and do not return if the team salary increases).
For example, assume there is a $58 million salary cap, and during the offseason a team has $50 million committed to salaries, along with a Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception for $5 million, a trade exception for $2.5 million, and an unrenounced free agent whose free agent amount is $2 million. Their salaries and exceptions total $59.5 million, or $1.5 million over the cap. What if their free agent signs with another team? The $2 million free agent amount comes off their cap, so their team salary (including their remaining exceptions) drops to $57.5 million. This total is below the cap so the team loses its Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level and trade exceptions.
There is logic behind this. The whole idea behind an "exception" is that it is an exception to the rule which says a team cannot go over the salary cap. In other words, an exception is a mechanism which allows a team to function above the cap. If a team isn't over the cap, then the concept of an exception is moot. Therefore, if a team's team salary ever drops this far, its exceptions go away. A rule of thumb is that a team may have either exceptions or cap room, but it can't have both at the same time. However, a team in this situation does qualify to use the Room Mid-Level exception (see question number 25)."
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Post by Alex English on Jul 18, 2016 20:12:22 GMT
Here is my understanding as far the MLE and how it should apply in D5:
The NBA has multiple Mid Level Exceptions since the new CBA which might be why it's confusing. I think they also use cap holds when it comes to keeping track of an MLE on each team's payroll. That's making things unnecessarily complicated for us, lets just ignore this part. Anyway, the NBA has the regular MLE for teams over the cap ($5.6 mil), a reduced MLE for teams in the luxury tax ($3.5 mil), and an even smaller MLE for teams that use cap space and then go over the cap later in free agency ($2.9 mil).
The last one might be what's most confusing since it's an MLE teams do get after using cap space and going over the cap. We don't have three MLEs though, just the regular one for the full amount. That one only goes to teams that begin free agency above the cap, or below by the less than the MLE amount. So in D5 only the teams that qualify for the full MLE should get our MLE. Meaning all the people using their cap space that still want their MLE after reaching the cap are out of luck. They shouldn't get the MLE.
With all the cap space this year, only the Bucks, Clippers and myself get the MLE. Everyone else is under the cap and/or used cap space to sign players already.
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Post by Ian Noble on Jul 18, 2016 20:27:24 GMT
I'm glad Alex interpreted that shitstorm for me, so I didn't have to So why not just allow teams who reach the salary cap to just use the MLE?
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MLE
Jul 18, 2016 20:31:30 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2016 20:31:30 GMT
So why not just allow teams who reach the salary cap to just use the MLE? I can only think of 2 reasons: Realism and Ease-of-use Just publish a list every July 1st which teams get the MLE and wash your hands of it.
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MLE
Jul 18, 2016 20:39:01 GMT
Post by Walt Frazier on Jul 18, 2016 20:39:01 GMT
I'm glad Alex interpreted that shitstorm for me, so I didn't have to So why not just allow teams who reach the salary cap to just use the MLE? At the end of Adam's post, that last paragraph (the 3rd paragraph) is actually really useful. You can either have cap space, or the MLE. Not both. Use that rule at the beginning of the offseason, make your list. "This year, these teams can use the MLE." And then that's it, no questions asked.
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Post by Ian Noble on Jul 18, 2016 20:53:28 GMT
Ok we will adopt the NBA's policy. I will update the Rules.
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Post by Ian Noble on Jul 18, 2016 20:58:30 GMT
Update: The only teams who possess the MLE are those who are over the salary cap on the starting day of Off Season Free Agency. If a team drops below the Salary Cap they forfeit their MLE. This means only Denver and the LA Clippers have the MLE to use this year. Shaquille O'Neal
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