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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jul 16, 2016 3:48:37 GMT
Danny Green has elected to resign with Cleveland.
2017 - 14,250,000
2018 - 15,817,500
2019 - 17,557,425
2020 - 19,488,741
2021 - 21,632,503
Total: 88,746,169
This decision came down between OKC and Cleveland. Hanamichi put just as much effort into his Danny Green resign pitch as he did his LBJ pitch. That was really the deciding factor. Kevin Hollis's offer was also extremely good and well thought out as well.
The money was about the same percentage of the cap as he makes in real life.
My Deciding Factors:
In real life Danny Green is the 4th or 5th option on a perennial championship contender. This is sort of where reality and D5 kind of separate. In real life he's been on the same team for years and years. In D5 life he's been traded more times than I can count, I'm pretty sure he's been on my team at some point. The point is that he was a top 3 option on a team in the East that made the playoffs with a clearly committed owner in tow. If he had been on say Denvers team he resigns at a discount like he did in real life. But this is fake life and he's been traded a million times here. He now has a committed GM that loves his game and won't trade him for BS 2nd rounders.
His loyalty exemplified in real life is the reason he resigns with Cleveland. However because it isn't real life Hana pays full price.
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jul 16, 2016 4:04:56 GMT
The Cleveland homies are so happy that you return, Danny! That 79 is just a number  I know what I have with Danny Green. #Cavs_Blood |
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Post by Brandon Roy on Jul 16, 2016 4:18:53 GMT
good signing Hanamichi.. I offered also but withdraw when I got Wes Matthews
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jul 16, 2016 9:14:36 GMT
Once again Danny Green was handled poorly. Eventually I told Jeremiah to let the cavs have him because I was given a reason of "the cavs really like him, so he will probably go there". Worst reasoning I have ever heard. Eventually I got tired of arguing about Danny and told the PA to let the cavs have him. Not to mention in my thread I gave the reasoning stated about percentage of cap for that exact contract and was told "Cleveland will offer the most money no matter what."
By far the worst handling of free agents by a long shot. This is not a reply out of me being mad I didn't get green or that he went to Cleveland, but me being mad at the player agent once again. The only reasons giving were that "the cavs like green and he will offer the most money" and then give him less money than my max offer with the exact contract I first offered makes me laugh.
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jul 16, 2016 12:21:53 GMT
He did not actually talk to me very positively about Danny re-signing, Kevin. I am actually prepared already if he doesn't re-sign. With that, I think he is consistent to the two of us. And I think, you just give up earlier and made it easier for him to make the choice.
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jul 16, 2016 12:38:20 GMT
He did not actually talk to me very positively about Danny re-signing, Kevin. I am actually prepared already if he doesn't re-sign. With that, I think he is consistent to the two of us. And I think, you just give up earlier and made it easier for him to make the choice. I am not mad at you ham. I think your response is even more reason to be concerned with how the SF free agency has been going. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2016 12:40:29 GMT
He did not actually talk to me very positively about Danny re-signing, Kevin. I am actually prepared already if he doesn't re-sign. With that, I think he is consistent to the two of us. And I think, you just give up earlier and made it easier for him to make the choice. I am not mad at you ham. I think your response is even more reason to be concerned with how the SF free agency has been going. Aren't you this guys IRL friend? Just bitch about it there. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2016 12:41:17 GMT
Like you can complain on this forum about Jeremiah, or you can egg his house...
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jul 16, 2016 12:58:43 GMT
I am not mad at you ham. I think your response is even more reason to be concerned with how the SF free agency has been going. Aren't you this guys IRL friend? Just bitch about it there. We know each other in real life, yes. But when items of power fall in his hands, his one track simplistic mind doesn't allow for outside opinion comprehension. Eg the jimmy butler problem. He knew from day one he was going to have him resign with the Bulls and that's that. That was the reason for the trite replies to Gms offering on butler. And Adam, do your responses always have to be impertinent to every subject matter? You can be annoying as all hell sometimes. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2016 13:02:13 GMT
Aren't you this guys IRL friend? Just bitch about it there. We know each other in real life, yes. But when items of power fall in his hands, his one track simplistic mind doesn't allow for outside opinion comprehension. Eg the jimmy butler problem. He knew from day one he was going to have him resign with the Bulls and that's that. That was the reason for the trite replies to Gms offering on butler. And Adam, do your responses always have to be impertinent to every subject matter? You sound like a miserable person. Meh, if I had a problem with the way a friend was acting I'd just bring it up with them instead of doing it here is all I'm saying. As far as the way I talk, I follow the golden rule, but people tend to want to be treated differently than I treat myself. |
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jul 16, 2016 13:24:39 GMT
He did not actually talk to me very positively about Danny re-signing, Kevin. I am actually prepared already if he doesn't re-sign. With that, I think he is consistent to the two of us. And I think, you just give up earlier and made it easier for him to make the choice. I am not mad at you ham. I think your response is even more reason to be concerned with how the SF free agency has been going. yah. I know. I think we see it differently. He chose to handle it negatively for both of us. I think that is fair and realistic. If you have close offers, going negative is a good tactic to juice out more money. And in real life, PAs and the players always tell lies when they are talking to teams. |
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jul 16, 2016 13:43:45 GMT
I am not mad at you ham. I think your response is even more reason to be concerned with how the SF free agency has been going. yah. I know. I think we see it differently. He chose to handle it negatively for both of us. I think that is fair and realistic. If you have close offers, going negative is a good tactic to juice out more money. And in real life, PAs and the players always tell lies when they are talking to teams. I can see where you are coming from, but by other players in the SF market and the ractions everyone else has had, I believe you are wrong this time around. |
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jul 16, 2016 14:23:12 GMT
We know each other in real life, yes. But when items of power fall in his hands, his one track simplistic mind doesn't allow for outside opinion comprehension. Eg the jimmy butler problem. He knew from day one he was going to have him resign with the Bulls and that's that. That was the reason for the trite replies to Gms offering on butler. And Adam, do your responses always have to be impertinent to every subject matter? You sound like a miserable person. Meh, if I had a problem with the way a friend was acting I'd just bring it up with them instead of doing it here is all I'm saying. As far as the way I talk, I follow the golden rule, but people tend to want to be treated differently than I treat myself. i will say one thing, you definitely can read better than me in regard to the rules and regulations. Something seemed "off" with the bird right contract going on the books immediately. I think s thanks is in order, so thank you. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2016 14:23:50 GMT
Meh, if I had a problem with the way a friend was acting I'd just bring it up with them instead of doing it here is all I'm saying. As far as the way I talk, I follow the golden rule, but people tend to want to be treated differently than I treat myself. i will say one thing, you definitely can read better than me in regard to the rules and regulations. Something seemed "off" with the bird right contract going on the books immediately. I think s thanks is in order, so thank you. On both accounts it's the autism |
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Post by JR Wiles on Jul 16, 2016 14:53:23 GMT
Once again Danny Green was handled poorly. Eventually I told Jeremiah to let the cavs have him because I was given a reason of "the cavs really like him, so he will probably go there". Worst reasoning I have ever heard. Eventually I got tired of arguing about Danny and told the PA to let the cavs have him. Not to mention in my thread I gave the reasoning stated about percentage of cap for that exact contract and was told "Cleveland will offer the most money no matter what." By far the worst handling of free agents by a long shot. This is not a reply out of me being mad I didn't get green or that he went to Cleveland, but me being mad at the player agent once again. The only reasons giving were that "the cavs like green and he will offer the most money" and then give him less money than my max offer with the exact contract I first offered makes me laugh. If you dont like the player agent or the way he does things or his choices, then don't make offers to his players. I did not make one offer to a player that Walt was the agent to. And I do like Walt as a ball fan, but we disagree and I never win. So to make sure my free agency is less hectic I decided before FA when agents were announced that I would not offer to any of Walt's guys. Yes it sucks and its unfair but it made things easier. Wish the rest of the league was the same. Easy.... |
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jul 16, 2016 14:56:34 GMT
I don't think not offering on players controlled by a person is a solution when there is a need. That really doesn't make sense. If you don't offer you have zero chance, if you do, there is at least some point to be made.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jul 16, 2016 19:03:50 GMT
And on display is the reason I don't talk with this one anymore.
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jul 16, 2016 20:11:50 GMT
And on display is the reason I don't talk with this one anymore. Ha please, your so closed minded it's ridiculous. You know, I know it, and so does everyone else. Not to mention you stole my reasoning for that exact contract given here, pretty good. What Jeremiah thinks, is the only answer. Rationalization of your own opinions only proves you know nothing. Your inept decisions with lack of understanding is the reason conversations have stopped. Not to mention your comment shows the small forward position has a public biased towards people e.g. Why butler and Durant had to be taken over. Thank god for self destructing transparency. |
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jul 16, 2016 23:59:27 GMT
Wait a minute Mr. Kevin Hollis . Is it just coincidence or you are really targeting my guys  |
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Post by Charles Barkley on Jul 17, 2016 1:00:49 GMT
Once again Danny Green was handled poorly. Eventually I told Jeremiah to let the cavs have him because I was given a reason of "the cavs really like him, so he will probably go there". Worst reasoning I have ever heard. Eventually I got tired of arguing about Danny and told the PA to let the cavs have him. Not to mention in my thread I gave the reasoning stated about percentage of cap for that exact contract and was told "Cleveland will offer the most money no matter what." By far the worst handling of free agents by a long shot. This is not a reply out of me being mad I didn't get green or that he went to Cleveland, but me being mad at the player agent once again. The only reasons giving were that "the cavs like green and he will offer the most money" and then give him less money than my max offer with the exact contract I first offered makes me laugh. If you dont like the player agent or the way he does things or his choices, then don't make offers to his players. I did not make one offer to a player that Walt was the agent to. And I do like Walt as a ball fan, but we disagree and I never win. So to make sure my free agency is less hectic I decided before FA when agents were announced that I would not offer to any of Walt's guys. Yes it sucks and its unfair but it made things easier. Wish the rest of the league was the same. Easy.... Yes. Because that makes perfect sense. We should all just not offer to the best players in the league because they fell in Jeremiah's lap. Not offering to the small forwards because you don't like the player agent is like not using american currency because you dislike the government. The Small Forward position was so important, it is the best players in the league, and of our generation. If you had cap space, you were putting an offer in for that player. It just so happened that the player agent handling these players was not the best candidate. |
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Post by Charles Barkley on Jul 17, 2016 1:04:04 GMT
And on display is the reason I don't talk with this one anymore. lol |
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jul 17, 2016 2:33:05 GMT
And on display is the reason I don't talk with this one anymore. lol Fuck off Kyle. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2016 2:34:49 GMT
okay who banged who's mom
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jul 17, 2016 3:27:43 GMT
And on display is the reason I don't talk with this one anymore. Ha please, your so closed minded it's ridiculous. You know, I know it, and so does everyone else. Not to mention you stole my reasoning for that exact contract given here, pretty good. What Jeremiah thinks, is the only answer. Rationalization of your own opinions only proves you know nothing. Your inept decisions with lack of understanding is the reason conversations have stopped. Not to mention your comment shows the small forward position has a public biased towards people e.g. Why butler and Durant had to be taken over. Thank god for self destructing transparency. Butler and Durant were given to Ian at my request, not because they were "taken" from me. Furthermore my opinions are different from yours. There are no facts in this type of things. You think I am wrong. That's fine. The insults and all that are a little uncalled for. "Rationalization of your own opinions only proves you know nothing." - That is what the fuck a god damned opinion is Kevin you fucking dipshit. Everyone rationalizes everything they do and think. If they didn't then quite frankly there is no fucking reason to do anything now is there? |
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jul 17, 2016 8:16:26 GMT
Ha please, your so closed minded it's ridiculous. You know, I know it, and so does everyone else. Not to mention you stole my reasoning for that exact contract given here, pretty good. What Jeremiah thinks, is the only answer. Rationalization of your own opinions only proves you know nothing. Your inept decisions with lack of understanding is the reason conversations have stopped. Not to mention your comment shows the small forward position has a public biased towards people e.g. Why butler and Durant had to be taken over. Thank god for self destructing transparency. Butler and Durant were given to Ian at my request, not because they were "taken" from me. Furthermore my opinions are different from yours. There are no facts in this type of things. You think I am wrong. That's fine. The insults and all that are a little uncalled for. "Rationalization of your own opinions only proves you know nothing." - That is what the fuck a god damned opinion is Kevin you fucking dipshit. Everyone rationalizes everything they do and think. If they didn't then quite frankly there is no fucking reason to do anything now is there? I used facts in my arguments for Danny green, you used opinion. And opinions aren't rationalizations, learn the English language "dipshit". It means you come up with bullshit unacceptable excuses for your opinion Displaying poor choices. which, in my opinion, is dead on. Try again. |
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jul 18, 2016 1:38:51 GMT
Butler and Durant were given to Ian at my request, not because they were "taken" from me. Furthermore my opinions are different from yours. There are no facts in this type of things. You think I am wrong. That's fine. The insults and all that are a little uncalled for. "Rationalization of your own opinions only proves you know nothing." - That is what the fuck a god damned opinion is Kevin you fucking dipshit. Everyone rationalizes everything they do and think. If they didn't then quite frankly there is no fucking reason to do anything now is there? I used facts in my arguments for Danny green, you used opinion. And opinions aren't rationalizations, learn the English language "dipshit". It means you come up with bullshit unacceptable excuses for your opinion Displaying poor choices. which, in my opinion, is dead on. Try again. What's your rationalization for that? That you are always right and anyone that thinks differently is a moron retard? |
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jul 19, 2016 11:10:51 GMT
I used facts in my arguments for Danny green, you used opinion. And opinions aren't rationalizations, learn the English language "dipshit". It means you come up with bullshit unacceptable excuses for your opinion Displaying poor choices. which, in my opinion, is dead on. Try again. What's your rationalization for that? That you are always right and anyone that thinks differently is a moron retard? I think you just described yourself. I don't rationalize, hence why I said facts. Facts support your opinion not rationalizations. Thank you for proving my point. Stay classy. |
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jul 20, 2016 3:35:44 GMT
I think you just described yourself. I don't rationalize, hence why I said facts. Facts support your opinion not rationalizations. Thank you for proving my point. Stay classy. We both know I don't have much class, eat shit. |
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jul 21, 2016 2:59:44 GMT
I think you just described yourself. I don't rationalize, hence why I said facts. Facts support your opinion not rationalizations. Thank you for proving my point. Stay classy. We both know I don't have much class, eat shit. Democrat at its finest. Always causing problems. |
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jul 21, 2016 16:31:10 GMT
We both know I don't have much class, eat shit. Democrat at its finest. Always causing problems. You spelled solving wrong. |
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