Indiana - Portland

[Larry Bird]

Indiana Trades:
79 Wesley Matthews $12,204,955 $13,059,302 $13,973,452 $14,951,595
81 Marcin Gortat $11,743,242 $12,103,000
$23,948,197

Portland Trades:
83 Tim Duncan $9,867,457
1st 2017 Portland
2nd 2017 Golden State
$9,867,457

I accept.
I trade Gortat for Duncan. I really like Duncan and always have. Gortat is younger, but I think Duncan can still be a good addition to the team. I trade Matthews for a 1st and 2nd in the 2017 draft.

[Alex English]

What about this?

[Kevin Hollis]

those are both one year rentals so you know. Decent if you are trying to win this year though.

[Brandon Roy]

I accept.. I need to fill my roster so that I could resign Kyrie.. Wesley Matthews will be a very good addition and could complement with Kyrie well.. I like his 3pt shooting and his defense. Gortat on the other hand is a reliable Center that will also compliment well to Ryan Anderson. It's hard to trade Duncan cause he have helped this team to have a championship. but I don't want to lose Kyrie.

[Larry Bird]

Well, will he be retired from this coming season or the next season in the game?

I thought since the retired players had already been announced Duncan would come off next season.

B Roy and I discussed a deal with just Matthews, and could probably revisit that if Ian Ian Noble confirms Duncan would be removed for the 2016-17 season.

[Brandon Roy]

I thought he have exercise his PO

[Ian Noble]

Jul 6, 2016 4:33:36 GMT Larry Bird said:

Well, will he be retired from this coming season or the next season in the game?

I thought since the retired players had already been announced Duncan would come off next season.

B Roy and I discussed a deal with just Matthews, and could probably revisit that if Ian Ian Noble confirms Duncan would be removed for the 2016-17 season.

Nothing confirmed yet re: Duncan. We're waiting on his decision.

[Larry Bird]

So, if he retires IRL, he retires here as well.

[Ian Noble]

Jul 6, 2016 11:56:47 GMT Larry Bird said:

So, if he retires IRL, he retires here as well.

Yep

[Alex English]

I accept if Larry is ok with Duncan's situation.

[Bryan Colangelo]

I accept as well, if Larry is okay with this.

[Larry Bird]

I would like to bring Duncan to Indiana.

The thing is, if Duncan retires tomorrow I have cap I can use to sign a free agent. If say Duncan takes 2 to 3 months to officially retire, I miss free agency. I miss getting a center coming to replace Gortat. I basically traded Gortat and Matthews for a 2017 1st and 2nd.

[Ian Noble]

So is that a yes or a no?

[Larry Bird]

Let's go with a yes and hope Duncan wants to play with Gasol.

[Brandon Roy]

2 accepts..

[Walt Frazier]

Hrmm. So, Matthews and Gortat are probably 1-year guys, with the money out there now those are semi-bargain deals so they really might opt out at least to get more money.

So, all one-year rental types, possibly. Mathews and Gortat for Duncan & Portland's 1st next year.

I guess it's fine.

Accept.

[Jeremiah Hill]

As long as Larry resolves himself to not trade his 2017 pick I fully support this trade. 

For Indy: 

Worst case Duncan opts out due to retirement and Larry just cleared cap for basically free. 

Pros: For a guy who's traded away a ton of draft picks he did a good job of making sure he has the next three season's firsts available. 

His team is ripe for a quality rebuild. Next years draft is fucking stacked. If we got to draft the 2017 class this year Simmons probably goes 6. So he could really benefit from potentially acquiring a quality superstar potential prospect. 

Cons: He just gave away two good players purely potential. Hey, shit happens. It's a risk you take I did it, and so have most GMs. 


For Portland: 

Pros: He's in the midst of a fiercely trying to reacquire his non-bird rights player in Kyrie. Well this team just got better. He trades a potential nothing for something of substance. 

Cons: Gives up some future assets and a franchise staple for a while. 


Good trade at the right time for both teams. 

[Ian Noble]

I accept. Trade passed.