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Post by Mike Krzyzewski on Jun 29, 2016 23:57:19 GMT
LA Clippers Sends:
15th pick
76 Andrea Bargnani $2,200,000 $2,442,000 $2,701,620(TO)
for
Utah Jazz Sends:
40th pick
77 Gorgui Dieng $1,228,700 $1,249,420 $1,277,752
68 Cameron Bairstow $600,000 $700,000(TO)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 29, 2016 23:57:58 GMT
Accept
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Post by Mike Krzyzewski on Jun 29, 2016 23:58:51 GMT
Clippers accept as we feel Gorgui is already a solid player but still young with plenty of upside and a better short term option for us than a rookie would be.
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Post by Alex English on Jun 30, 2016 0:04:24 GMT
I still think you're paying too much for these picks. Moving up 22 spots is not worth Gorgui Dieng. Ultimately this is fine though, great deal for the Clippers.
I accept.
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Post by Spike Lee on Jun 30, 2016 0:06:40 GMT
lol adam too high
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jun 30, 2016 0:09:52 GMT
Does the cap work on this?
The Clippers are way over, right? Does the #15 salary make this work? Just don't remember this happening before with an over the cap team.
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Post by Danny Longley on Jun 30, 2016 0:18:06 GMT
It can't happen the way they intend it to happen if Dieng's BRs are an issue, because it's being sent as a pick.
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Post by Mike Krzyzewski on Jun 30, 2016 0:20:30 GMT
Not sure of the exact rule but why would Bird rights be an issue? He clearly has 3 years left on his contract still.
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Post by Alex English on Jun 30, 2016 0:24:49 GMT
Yea this is an issue. The 15th pick has a salary of $1,835,200.
So this can be changed to draft rights to Papagiannis instead of the pick since 1st rounders are signed automatically. That would work for salary.
But that messes with the 37th pick because it hasn't happened yet. Also going based on draft rights means advancing Dieng's salary to next year since it's using next year's salaries for the pick. That mean the Clippers don't get Bird rights for Dieng, which I assume is key for Coach K.
Not to mention having Draft rights to Papagiannis and Dieng on next year's rules, and the 37th pick on this year's rules makes the trade illegal.
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Post by Danny Longley on Jun 30, 2016 0:26:18 GMT
Not sure of the exact rule but why would Bird rights be an issue? He clearly has 3 years left on his contract still. Sorry, should've been more clear - it's because the #15 pick has no salary value, so you're taking on money without giving money back which you can't do because you're over the cap. Edit: Alex has a much clearer explanation |
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Post by Mike Krzyzewski on Jun 30, 2016 0:28:16 GMT
Understood. Working it out behind the scenes as we speak.
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Post by Mike Krzyzewski on Jun 30, 2016 0:45:25 GMT
Original deal has been changed to one that will work salary/Bird rights wise.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2016 0:45:38 GMT
Re accept
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Post by Alex English on Jun 30, 2016 0:49:00 GMT
Accept again. Thank science the draft didn't stall for the second night in a row on a trade.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jun 30, 2016 0:49:24 GMT
I'll accept it.
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Post by Danny Longley on Jun 30, 2016 0:59:54 GMT
Sure, accept.
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jun 30, 2016 1:18:42 GMT
Question so I understand. If you trade a player for a pick (1st round), you count that first round as your salary match?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2016 1:20:37 GMT
Question so I understand. If you trade a player for a pick (1st round), you count that first round as your salary match? Only if you are using next years salaries. He wants diengs bird rights so we had to use this year salaries, so the pick has no monetary value attached too it until the regular season (though there is a cap hold, but cap holds don't count as salary in trades) |
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jun 30, 2016 2:48:20 GMT
Thanks
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jun 30, 2016 3:20:00 GMT
Adam has touched like 75% of the picks in this draft at some point.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jun 30, 2016 3:30:15 GMT
Adam has touched like 75% of the picks in this draft at some point. What a creep. |
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jun 30, 2016 3:39:13 GMT
Adam has touched like 75% of the picks in this draft at some point. How old is everyone? Hand check. |
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jun 30, 2016 4:40:38 GMT
Adam has touched like 75% of the picks in this draft at some point. How old is everyone? Hand check. Youngest player in draft is Korkmaz at 18. We're good. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 30, 2016 14:01:22 GMT
How old is everyone? Hand check. Youngest player in draft is Korkmaz at 18. We're good. Korkie is younger than Ingram? Damn. |
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Post by James Kay on Jun 30, 2016 14:05:47 GMT
Youngest player in draft is Korkmaz at 18. We're good. Korkie is younger than Ingram? Damn. Nah, he's not |
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Post by Bryan Colangelo on Jun 30, 2016 14:06:11 GMT
I accept as well
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Post by Ian Noble on Jun 30, 2016 15:59:21 GMT
Trade passed and queued.
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