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Post by Alex English on Jun 25, 2016 4:38:06 GMT
This is a real comment. We are better than NBA GMs. Dunn wont be there. Maybe, but Orlando has Schroeder who was just handed the keys to the city in Atlanta. Ian wants Jaylen Brown, and New York has Jrue Holiday. I can see Kris Dunn being there. Everyone who passes on him from now on is going to regret it though. Dunn is clearly the third best player in the draft (at least) in my opinion. He also is on a great team with a top five coach that will turn him into an elite two way player. |
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Post by Blake Bowman on Jun 25, 2016 4:52:42 GMT
This is a real comment. We are better than NBA GMs. Dunn wont be there. Ian wants Jaylen Brown, lol  |
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Post by Charles Barkley on Jun 25, 2016 8:45:39 GMT
This is a real comment. We are better than NBA GMs. Dunn wont be there. Maybe, but Orlando has Schroeder who was just handed the keys to the city in Atlanta. Ian wants Jaylen Brown, and New York has Jrue Holiday. I can see Kris Dunn being there. Everyone who passes on him from now on is going to regret it though. Dunn is clearly the third best player in the draft (at least) in my opinion. He also is on a great team with a top five coach that will turn him into an elite two way player. Why would he want Jaylen Brown? I mean, I think Brown is good and all, but I don't think he is the best player available after Ingram and Simmons. I would have Murray ahead of him for sure. |
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jun 25, 2016 12:05:28 GMT
Maybe, but Orlando has Schroeder who was just handed the keys to the city in Atlanta. Ian wants Jaylen Brown, and New York has Jrue Holiday. I can see Kris Dunn being there. Everyone who passes on him from now on is going to regret it though. Dunn is clearly the third best player in the draft (at least) in my opinion. He also is on a great team with a top five coach that will turn him into an elite two way player. Why would he want Jaylen Brown? I mean, I think Brown is good and all, but I don't think he is the best player available after Ingram and Simmons. I would have Murray ahead of him for sure. Maybe with Brad Stevens coaching him. Bug maybe though. Dunn is old and worse or the same as Marcus Smart was 2 years younger. |
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jun 25, 2016 12:06:04 GMT
What were you thinking 2 days Ian?
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Post by Ian Noble on Jun 25, 2016 13:27:24 GMT
What were you thinking 2 days Ian? Builds the suspense.... for me right now at least lol |
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Post by Ian Noble on Jun 25, 2016 13:37:11 GMT
Also more practically I think it gives GMs time to properly prepare and field trade offers, submit draft boards etc.
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Post by Blake Bowman on Jun 25, 2016 14:18:55 GMT
I'm going to pick today, but this is very hard and I won't rush it.
You say Bender, Alex, but I have two bigs I like now, Gobert especially. He is a PF, but he's largely unproven and I worry of KP overhyping him. Plus, PHX.
I have my PG for the future, and I need a wing and it's hard to decide.. I love the Celtics' drafting and coaching in real life, they had moves they could have made with that pick but kept it, and Wyc said Jaylen is "(their) guy for the future." I love his potential..
Ramble ramble ramble.... Murray is nice.. Hield is nice.. I'm leaning towards Jaylen, but at the moment I need a minute.
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jun 25, 2016 15:25:39 GMT
I'm going to pick today, but this is very hard and I won't rush it. You say Bender, Alex, but I have two bigs I like now, Gobert especially. He is a PF, but he's largely unproven and I worry of KP overhyping him. Plus, PHX. I have my PG for the future, and I need a wing and it's hard to decide.. I love the Celtics' drafting and coaching in real life, they had moves they could have made with that pick but kept it, and Wyc said Jaylen is "(their) guy for the future." I love his potential.. Ramble ramble ramble.... Murray is nice.. Hield is nice.. I'm leaning towards Jaylen, but at the moment I need a minute.You have taken an hour!!  |
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Post by Blake Bowman on Jun 25, 2016 16:01:27 GMT
I'm going to pick today, but this is very hard and I won't rush it. You say Bender, Alex, but I have two bigs I like now, Gobert especially. He is a PF, but he's largely unproven and I worry of KP overhyping him. Plus, PHX. I have my PG for the future, and I need a wing and it's hard to decide.. I love the Celtics' drafting and coaching in real life, they had moves they could have made with that pick but kept it, and Wyc said Jaylen is "(their) guy for the future." I love his potential.. Ramble ramble ramble.... Murray is nice.. Hield is nice.. I'm leaning towards Jaylen, but at the moment I need a minute.You have taken an hour!! I have like, 23 hours, 2 minutes left to choose. |
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Post by Alex English on Jun 25, 2016 19:33:34 GMT
I'm going to pick today, but this is very hard and I won't rush it. You say Bender, Alex, but I have two bigs I like now, Gobert especially. He is a PF, but he's largely unproven and I worry of KP overhyping him. Plus, PHX. I have my PG for the future, and I need a wing and it's hard to decide.. I love the Celtics' drafting and coaching in real life, they had moves they could have made with that pick but kept it, and Wyc said Jaylen is "(their) guy for the future." I love his potential.. Ramble ramble ramble.... Murray is nice.. Hield is nice.. I'm leaning towards Jaylen, but at the moment I need a minute. Do whatever you want with this information. I don't listen very much to other GMs and trust my own judgement. But... If I were in your position I'd pick Kris Dunn and trade Schroeder for a wing that can shoot and score. If Jaylen Brown is a good basketball player, then why isn't he good at basketball? He can't shoot, isn't a great rebounder for a 6'7" SF. Not a playmaker, lots of turnovers. Terrible free throw shooter, which I think is one of the biggest indicators of shooting potential and bad form. Terrible advanced stats. I'm not sure he's a top 10 pick. In his favour, he's 19 years old, very athletic with an NBA ready body. He's really good in transition. He also seems like a really great kid and hard worker. Due to that I believe he can become a good player, but it will take a while. Murray/Hield are also good, but each have their flaws. I can't see them as anything more than occasional All-Stars. They could also just become mediocre starters as shooting specialists. Don't draft Bender. That's rolling a pair of dice and hoping for snake eyes. Don't be blinded by Porzingis. This kid couldn't even get playing time in Israel. He's young with a tantalizing skill set, but so risky. You have no idea what you're getting. Kris Dunn is one of three guys with superstar potential. The other two are gone. He can be an elite defender with great offense and be a good shooter. He gets to play with Wiggins and Towns, throw oops to Lavine, and be coached by Tom Thibideau. How can you go wrong? Those are my honest thoughts for all you people. I've got no problem putting it out there since I'm not getting any of these guys, and it will be cool to come back later and see how for off the mark I am. |
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jun 25, 2016 20:15:47 GMT
I'm going to pick today, but this is very hard and I won't rush it. You say Bender, Alex, but I have two bigs I like now, Gobert especially. He is a PF, but he's largely unproven and I worry of KP overhyping him. Plus, PHX. I have my PG for the future, and I need a wing and it's hard to decide.. I love the Celtics' drafting and coaching in real life, they had moves they could have made with that pick but kept it, and Wyc said Jaylen is "(their) guy for the future." I love his potential.. Ramble ramble ramble.... Murray is nice.. Hield is nice.. I'm leaning towards Jaylen, but at the moment I need a minute. Do whatever you want with this information. I don't listen very much to other GMs and trust my own judgement. But... If I were in your position I'd pick Kris Dunn and trade Schroeder for a wing that can shoot and score. If Jaylen Brown is a good basketball player, then why isn't he good at basketball? He can't shoot, isn't a great rebounder for a 6'7" SF. Not a playmaker, lots of turnovers. Terrible free throw shooter, which I think is one of the biggest indicators of shooting potential and bad form. Terrible advanced stats. I'm not sure he's a top 10 pick. In his favour, he's 19 years old, very athletic with an NBA ready body. He's really good in transition. He also seems like a really great kid and hard worker. Due to that I believe he can become a good player, but it will take a while. Murray/Hield are also good, but each have their flaws. I can't see them as anything more than occasional All-Stars. They could also just become mediocre starters as shooting specialists. Don't draft Bender. That's rolling a pair of dice and hoping for snake eyes. Don't be blinded by Porzingis. This kid couldn't even get playing time in Israel. He's young with a tantalizing skill set, but so risky. You have no idea what you're getting. Kris Dunn is one of three guys with superstar potential. The other two are gone. He can be an elite defender with great offense and be a good shooter. He gets to play with Wiggins and Towns, throw oops to Lavine, and be coached by Tom Thibideau. How can you go wrong? Those are my honest thoughts for all you people. I've got no problem putting it out there since I'm not getting any of these guys, and it will be cool to come back later and see how for off the mark I am. Also, Alex feels a little bad, still, about that Paul George for the #7 pick which turned into a scrub player trade from a few years ago. So he's trying to help. He's a nice guy, really. |
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Post by Ian Noble on Jun 25, 2016 20:20:09 GMT
Take your time Blake, there's no definite answer. Picking right outside the consensus Top Tier guys is the most difficult place to be in the Draft.
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Post by Alex English on Jun 25, 2016 20:22:32 GMT
Also, Alex feels a little bad, still, about that Paul George for the #7 pick which turned into a scrub player trade from a few years ago. So he's trying to help. He's a nice guy, really. Haha, is Michael Kidd-Gilchrist a scrub though? He sure as hell isn't Paul George, it's probably the best trade I ever made, but MKG isn't bad. |
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jun 25, 2016 20:58:16 GMT
Also, Alex feels a little bad, still, about that Paul George for the #7 pick which turned into a scrub player trade from a few years ago. So he's trying to help. He's a nice guy, really. Haha, is Michael Kidd-Gilchrist a scrub though? He sure as hell isn't Paul George, it's probably the best trade I ever made, but MKG isn't bad. It's all relative. |
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jun 25, 2016 21:04:04 GMT
MKG is not a scrub though. I apologize to his fanclub.
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jun 25, 2016 22:58:12 GMT
Trust me Blake. A center will be the top player of this batch. Trust me  |
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jun 25, 2016 23:17:03 GMT
Trust me Blake. A center will be the top player of this batch. Trust me I don't trust the Europeans, especially with the current events. Benders stock should plummet to right around my pick. |
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jun 25, 2016 23:28:41 GMT
Trust me Blake. A center will be the top player of this batch. Trust me I don't trust the Europeans, especially with the current events. Benders stock should plummet to right around my pick. It can be a European or American. Actually, I am talking about four prospects. |
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Post by Charles Barkley on Jun 26, 2016 0:02:23 GMT
I'm going to pick today, but this is very hard and I won't rush it. You say Bender, Alex, but I have two bigs I like now, Gobert especially. He is a PF, but he's largely unproven and I worry of KP overhyping him. Plus, PHX. I have my PG for the future, and I need a wing and it's hard to decide.. I love the Celtics' drafting and coaching in real life, they had moves they could have made with that pick but kept it, and Wyc said Jaylen is "(their) guy for the future." I love his potential.. Ramble ramble ramble.... Murray is nice.. Hield is nice.. I'm leaning towards Jaylen, but at the moment I need a minute. Do whatever you want with this information. I don't listen very much to other GMs and trust my own judgement. But... If I were in your position I'd pick Kris Dunn and trade Schroeder for a wing that can shoot and score. If Jaylen Brown is a good basketball player, then why isn't he good at basketball? He can't shoot, isn't a great rebounder for a 6'7" SF. Not a playmaker, lots of turnovers. Terrible free throw shooter, which I think is one of the biggest indicators of shooting potential and bad form. Terrible advanced stats. I'm not sure he's a top 10 pick. In his favour, he's 19 years old, very athletic with an NBA ready body. He's really good in transition. He also seems like a really great kid and hard worker. Due to that I believe he can become a good player, but it will take a while. Murray/Hield are also good, but each have their flaws. I can't see them as anything more than occasional All-Stars. They could also just become mediocre starters as shooting specialists. Don't draft Bender. That's rolling a pair of dice and hoping for snake eyes. Don't be blinded by Porzingis. This kid couldn't even get playing time in Israel. He's young with a tantalizing skill set, but so risky. You have no idea what you're getting. Kris Dunn is one of three guys with superstar potential. The other two are gone. He can be an elite defender with great offense and be a good shooter. He gets to play with Wiggins and Towns, throw oops to Lavine, and be coached by Tom Thibideau. How can you go wrong? Those are my honest thoughts for all you people. I've got no problem putting it out there since I'm not getting any of these guys, and it will be cool to come back later and see how for off the mark I am. I think Bender is rolling the dice, as you said. Which is why PHX decided to grab 2 stretch 4's, a position they desperately need. Bender a project, Criss more NBA ready. A lot of players taken in the lotto aren't good basketball players. They are just athletic as hell with a good attitude, potential is the key word. Wiggins didn't set the world on fire at Kansas. Stanley Johnson didn't go crazy at Arizona, but look at them now. That being said, I don't think Brown is as good as Stanley. Stanley had one NBA ready skill set, the 3 point shot, Brown doesn't have much of anything besides the ability to dunk in transition, which is what everyone can do. I think he will be good in time though. I think Murray is a stud. And I think Kris Dunn will be a more athletic Beverely. |
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Post by Alex English on Jun 26, 2016 0:28:23 GMT
I think Bender is rolling the dice, as you said. Which is why PHX decided to grab 2 stretch 4's, a position they desperately need. Bender a project, Criss more NBA ready. A lot of players taken in the lotto aren't good basketball players. They are just athletic as hell with a good attitude, potential is the key word. Wiggins didn't set the world on fire at Kansas. Stanley Johnson didn't go crazy at Arizona, but look at them now. That being said, I don't think Brown is as good as Stanley. Stanley had one NBA ready skill set, the 3 point shot, Brown doesn't have much of anything besides the ability to dunk in transition, which is what everyone can do. I think he will be good in time though. I think Murray is a stud. And I think Kris Dunn will be a more athletic Beverely. Yea I'm a huge fan of the Suns draft. I like Chriss more than Bender, but that's probably just due to the enigma that is Dragan Bender. There is no more than an hour of total footage on him online. Either way, you figure one of those guys makes it for the Suns. Again I don't mind Jaylen Brown much as a prospect. But not at #3. You have to know you're getting something at #3. I guess real life Boston had that luxury though because they're a playoff team. If you get Jaylen Brown with the 9th or 10th pick? That's fine. Like DeMar DeRozan went 9th as a super raw athlete. He is also a total gym rat and obsessed with working to improve. Now look what he's become. If Brown makes that same progression then that's great for him. Offensively Murray is a stud, he just looks and acts like a total baller with some swagger. As a Canadian I'm really hoping he becomes a star. Defensively though, he's pretty weak, and he has poor lateral quickness. No way he can keep up with the PGs in the NBA. His future has to be at the SG position. If he can overcome that, I don't see what holds him down. I still project him as a potential All-Star, he's just not a superstar imo. |
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jun 26, 2016 3:45:12 GMT
I think Bender is rolling the dice, as you said. Which is why PHX decided to grab 2 stretch 4's, a position they desperately need. Bender a project, Criss more NBA ready. A lot of players taken in the lotto aren't good basketball players. They are just athletic as hell with a good attitude, potential is the key word. Wiggins didn't set the world on fire at Kansas. Stanley Johnson didn't go crazy at Arizona, but look at them now. That being said, I don't think Brown is as good as Stanley. Stanley had one NBA ready skill set, the 3 point shot, Brown doesn't have much of anything besides the ability to dunk in transition, which is what everyone can do. I think he will be good in time though. I think Murray is a stud. And I think Kris Dunn will be a more athletic Beverely. Yea I'm a huge fan of the Suns draft. I like Chriss more than Bender, but that's probably just due to the enigma that is Dragan Bender. There is no more than an hour of total footage on him online. Either way, you figure one of those guys makes it for the Suns. Again I don't mind Jaylen Brown much as a prospect. But not at #3. You have to know you're getting something at #3. I guess real life Boston had that luxury though because they're a playoff team. If you get Jaylen Brown with the 9th or 10th pick? That's fine. Like DeMar DeRozan went 9th as a super raw athlete. He is also a total gym rat and obsessed with working to improve. Now look what he's become. If Brown makes that same progression then that's great for him. Offensively Murray is a stud, he just looks and acts like a total baller with some swagger. As a Canadian I'm really hoping he becomes a star. Defensively though, he's pretty weak, and he has poor lateral quickness. No way he can keep up with the PGs in the NBA. His future has to be at the SG position. If he can overcome that, I don't see what holds him down. I still project him as a potential All-Star, he's just not a superstar imo. Is America outnumbered in this sim league? What is going on? |
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Post by Alex English on Jun 26, 2016 5:27:08 GMT
Is America outnumbered in this sim league? What is going on? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There used to be 5 Canadians at one point. I think now there's just 2 of us. We have at least 5 Filipinos, Ian is British/Australian. Magic Johnson is American and Bangladeshi? One of the southeast Asian countries, not sure I remember which one exactly. I'm sure I'm missing people. There is still like 15-20 Americans, but there is definitely a worldly presence on this forum. |
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Post by Charles Barkley on Jun 26, 2016 6:40:46 GMT
I think Bender is rolling the dice, as you said. Which is why PHX decided to grab 2 stretch 4's, a position they desperately need. Bender a project, Criss more NBA ready. A lot of players taken in the lotto aren't good basketball players. They are just athletic as hell with a good attitude, potential is the key word. Wiggins didn't set the world on fire at Kansas. Stanley Johnson didn't go crazy at Arizona, but look at them now. That being said, I don't think Brown is as good as Stanley. Stanley had one NBA ready skill set, the 3 point shot, Brown doesn't have much of anything besides the ability to dunk in transition, which is what everyone can do. I think he will be good in time though. I think Murray is a stud. And I think Kris Dunn will be a more athletic Beverely. Yea I'm a huge fan of the Suns draft. I like Chriss more than Bender, but that's probably just due to the enigma that is Dragan Bender. There is no more than an hour of total footage on him online. Either way, you figure one of those guys makes it for the Suns. Again I don't mind Jaylen Brown much as a prospect. But not at #3. You have to know you're getting something at #3. I guess real life Boston had that luxury though because they're a playoff team. If you get Jaylen Brown with the 9th or 10th pick? That's fine. Like DeMar DeRozan went 9th as a super raw athlete. He is also a total gym rat and obsessed with working to improve. Now look what he's become. If Brown makes that same progression then that's great for him. Offensively Murray is a stud, he just looks and acts like a total baller with some swagger. As a Canadian I'm really hoping he becomes a star. Defensively though, he's pretty weak, and he has poor lateral quickness. No way he can keep up with the PGs in the NBA. His future has to be at the SG position. If he can overcome that, I don't see what holds him down. I still project him as a potential All-Star, he's just not a superstar imo. Murray will be fine as a PG, for every reason you mentioned, including his flaws. No one plays defense at the PG position. That position has become the scoring guard. He will be fine, so long as he is capable of playing team defense, which is much more important for the PG than straight up lockdown man to man. |
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jun 26, 2016 6:58:18 GMT
Is America outnumbered in this sim league? What is going on? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ There used to be 5 Canadians at one point. I think now there's just 2 of us. We have at least 5 Filipinos, Ian is British/Australian. Magic Johnson is American and Bangladeshi? One of the southeast Asian countries, not sure I remember which one exactly. I'm sure I'm missing people. There is still like 15-20 Americans, but there is definitely a worldly presence on this forum. That's rather interesting. I knew there were some from outside the US, but not to the extent you mentioned. |
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Post by Blake Bowman on Jun 26, 2016 9:32:45 GMT
Praying that this decision doesn't haunt me like past decisions...  WITH THE 3rd PICK IN THE 2016 D5 DRAFT, THE ORLANDO MAGIC SELECT KRISS DUNN, PG, PROVIDENCE I'll draft Kriss Dunn, his ceiling and floor both seem high enough to warrant a third overall selection in my opinion. I love defense and he seems like a great defender, I think he and Gobert on the same team will help our perimeter and interior defense shine as we look to build a defensive minded team while adding offensive pieces through free agency and future drafts. I believe he is a guy who fits his situation in real life well, playing for a solid coach on a team that is pretty damned talented, so I think he'll have the opportunity to be a top contributor and some of the attention to other guys will allow him to have his moments on offense.  I've already got a deal sending out Michael Carter Williams to clear up room at the point; Schroeder is officially on the board, so hit me up with interest. #MakeOrlandoGreatAgain:-* |
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Post by Blake Bowman on Jun 26, 2016 9:33:33 GMT
I literally started shaking after posting that. lol |
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Post by Ian Noble on Jun 26, 2016 9:34:06 GMT
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Post by Ian Noble on Jun 26, 2016 9:36:52 GMT
With the 4th pick in the 2016 Dynasty Five Draft, the Boston Celtics select Jaylen Brown from the University of California.
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Post by Ian Noble on Jun 26, 2016 9:39:13 GMT
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