February 10th

[Ian Noble]

EASTERN CONFERENCE

		W	L	Streak	HW	HL	AW	AL	DivW	DivL	ConfW	ConfL
1	Charlotte Hornets	34	16	4	16	10	18	6	7	2	22	10	.680
2	Milwaukee Bucks	33	16	-1	16	8	17	8	9	1	22	8	.673
3	Philadelphia 76ers	30	19	-1	18	8	12	11	5	4	16	11	.612
4	Toronto Raptors	30	20	-1	16	9	14	11	6	3	19	10	.600
5	Brooklyn Nets	27	21	7	14	9	13	12	5	4	17	11	.563
6	Chicago Bulls	28	22	1	14	10	14	12	3	5	14	12	.560
7	Cleveland Cavaliers	26	23	1	12	12	14	11	5	6	14	14	.531
8	Miami Heat	26	25	-1	14	10	12	15	4	4	12	13	.510
9	Detroit Pistons	21	28	-2	12	12	9	16	3	3	12	13	.429
10	Washington Wizards	20	28	-4	10	16	10	12	5	6	14	16	.417
11	Indiana Pacers	19	28	-1	8	15	11	13	2	7	12	14	.404
12	Atlanta Hawks	19	29	-2	12	13	7	16	5	3	14	14	.396
13	New York Knicks	13	36	1	10	15	3	21	2	6	8	18	.265
14	Orlando Magic	11	38	3	4	21	7	17	2	8	5	26	.224
15	Boston Celtics	11	39	-2	6	20	5	19	3	4	8	19	.220
SPA	SPACING SPACING SPACING SPA	SPA	SPA	SPA	SPA	SPA	SPA	SPA	SPA	SPA	SPA	SPA

WESTERN CONFERENCE

		W	L	Streak	HW	HL	AW	AL	DivW	DivL	ConfW	ConfL
1	Oklahoma City Thunder	38	12	2	17	8	21	4	5	3	19	8	.760
2	Golden State Warriors	35	13	2	21	6	14	7	6	2	16	10	.729
3	Portland Trail Blazers	35	13	1	17	8	18	5	10	1	20	7	.729
4	Denver Nuggets	37	15	-1	19	8	18	7	3	5	22	9	.712
5	Dallas Mavericks	34	16	3	14	10	20	6	6	4	20	12	.680
6	LA Clippers	30	19	5	15	9	15	10	4	6	11	14	.612
7	Phoenix Suns	30	20	2	15	12	15	8	6	4	15	14	.600
8	Minnesota Timberwolves	28	21	8	14	10	14	11	3	7	18	14	.571
9	Sacramento Kings	22	28	-2	14	13	8	15	1	6	12	17	.440
10	New Orleans Pelicans	21	27	-3	12	12	9	15	6	5	14	14	.438
11	LA Lakers	19	30	-4	8	12	11	18	4	3	10	17	.388
12	Houston Rockets	17	32	1	11	11	6	21	5	4	10	16	.347
13	Memphis Grizzlies	17	32	-5	9	14	8	18	5	6	10	21	.347
14	San Antonio Spurs	16	32	-4	9	15	7	17	2	5	7	17	.333
15	Utah Jazz	11	40	-17	5	20	6	20	2	7	7	21	.216
SPA	SPACING SPACING SPACING SPA	SPA	SPA	SPA	SPA	SPA	SPA	SPA	SPA	SPA	SPA	SPA

FULL STANDINGS

		W	L	Streak	HW	HL	AW	AL	DivW	DivL	ConfW	ConfL
1	Oklahoma City Thunder	38	12	2	17	8	21	4	5	3	19	8	.760
2	Golden State Warriors	35	13	2	21	6	14	7	6	2	16	10	.729
3	Portland Trail Blazers	35	13	1	17	8	18	5	10	1	20	7	.729
4	Denver Nuggets	37	15	-1	19	8	18	7	3	5	22	9	.712
5	Charlotte Hornets	34	16	4	16	10	18	6	7	2	22	10	.680
6	Dallas Mavericks	34	16	3	14	10	20	6	6	4	20	12	.680
7	Milwaukee Bucks	33	16	-1	16	8	17	8	9	1	22	8	.673
8	Philadelphia 76ers	30	19	-1	18	8	12	11	5	4	16	11	.612
9	LA Clippers	30	19	5	15	9	15	10	4	6	11	14	.612
10	Toronto Raptors	30	20	-1	16	9	14	11	6	3	19	10	.600
11	Phoenix Suns	30	20	2	15	12	15	8	6	4	15	14	.600
12	Minnesota Timberwolves	28	21	8	14	10	14	11	3	7	18	14	.571
13	Brooklyn Nets	27	21	7	14	9	13	12	5	4	17	11	.563
14	Chicago Bulls	28	22	1	14	10	14	12	3	5	14	12	.560
15	Cleveland Cavaliers	26	23	1	12	12	14	11	5	6	14	14	.531
16	Miami Heat	26	25	-1	14	10	12	15	4	4	12	13	.510
17	Sacramento Kings	22	28	-2	14	13	8	15	1	6	12	17	.440
18	New Orleans Pelicans	21	27	-3	12	12	9	15	6	5	14	14	.438
19	Detroit Pistons	21	28	-2	12	12	9	16	3	3	12	13	.429
20	Washington Wizards	20	28	-4	10	16	10	12	5	6	14	16	.417
21	Indiana Pacers	19	28	-1	8	15	11	13	2	7	12	14	.404
22	Atlanta Hawks	19	29	-2	12	13	7	16	5	3	14	14	.396
23	LA Lakers	19	30	-4	8	12	11	18	4	3	10	17	.388
24	Houston Rockets	17	32	1	11	11	6	21	5	4	10	16	.347
25	Memphis Grizzlies	17	32	-5	9	14	8	18	5	6	10	21	.347
26	San Antonio Spurs	16	32	-4	9	15	7	17	2	5	7	17	.333
27	New York Knicks	13	36	1	10	15	3	21	2	6	8	18	.265
28	Orlando Magic	11	38	3	4	21	7	17	2	8	5	26	.224
29	Boston Celtics	11	39	-2	6	20	5	19	3	4	8	19	.220
30	Utah Jazz	11	40	-17	5	20	6	20	2	7	7	21	.216
SPA	SPACING SPACING SPACING SPA	SPA	SPA	SPA	SPA	SPA	SPA	SPA	SPA	SPA	SPA	SPA

[James Kay]

Pretty much ready to start boiling that shoe. The landscape of the East has changed somewhat since the previous season, now more than half of the conference is tanking – with our without their pick. The East is really in terrible shape now, and for the future.

ORL, NYK, BOS, and ATL are flat out racing to the bottom. Boston and New York at least have multiple first rounders this year – could possibly finally be Ian’s year

CLE, IND, DET, and WAS, are sadly in limbo. No pick, yet unlikely to make the playoffs. Between them, they have Porzingis, Russel, Portis, and (Millsap?).

I think Detroit, barring a move which sees the departure of Millsap, is the only contender to fight Cleveland for that last playoff spot. Making that playoff spot could be really solid for Detroit when he makes pitches to players in the off-season.

[Ian Noble]

I've hit rock bottom in the East for the first time this year which is weird because I actually thought the addition of Jabari Parker would make me a bit better.

Utah on their 17 game losing streak finally hit rock bottom of the entire league!

[Alex English]

Mar 23, 2016 18:40:00 GMT James Kay said:

Pretty much ready to start boiling that shoe. The landscape of the East has changed somewhat since the previous season, now more than half of the conference is tanking – with our without their pick. The East is really in terrible shape now, and for the future.

Then compare that to the madness of the West. There is a five headed monster made up of OKC, POR, GSW, DAL and then myself. It's only luck that can help get you to the Finals. Plus LAC is lurking in 6th, they can make a run too.

I'd like to move the city of Denver a thousand miles to the east.

[Deleted]

Mar 23, 2016 20:46:39 GMT Alex English said:

Mar 23, 2016 18:40:00 GMT James Kay said:

Pretty much ready to start boiling that shoe. The landscape of the East has changed somewhat since the previous season, now more than half of the conference is tanking – with our without their pick. The East is really in terrible shape now, and for the future.

Then compare that to the madness of the West. There is a five headed monster made up of OKC, POR, GSW, DAL and then myself. It's only luck that can help get you to the Finals. Plus LAC is lurking in 6th, they can make a run too.

I'd like to move the city of Denver a thousand miles to the east.

Anyone even trying to compete with the top 5 teams in the west is crazy. Tanking is the only thing that makes sense. I could sign 4 max contract guys and still be worse off than a Denver or GSW.

Trying to win games makes sense in real life because money, but here there is no glory getting swept in the playoffs, or narrowly missing the cut. That type of stuff is a recipe to become Sacramento.

[James Kay]

Mar 23, 2016 20:46:39 GMT Alex English said:

Mar 23, 2016 18:40:00 GMT James Kay said:

Pretty much ready to start boiling that shoe. The landscape of the East has changed somewhat since the previous season, now more than half of the conference is tanking – with our without their pick. The East is really in terrible shape now, and for the future.

Then compare that to the madness of the West. There is a five headed monster made up of OKC, POR, GSW, DAL and then myself. It's only luck that can help get you to the Finals. Plus LAC is lurking in 6th, they can make a run too.

I'd like to move the city of Denver a thousand miles to the east.

You’re describing my pitch to free-agents this off-season LOL but yeah seriously, its absolutely absurd out West. I’m content here on the East where our top team is decimated by injuries and more than half are tanking. Toronto and to a lesser extent Chicago and Miami are still kinda scary out here, though.

[JR Wiles]

Mar 23, 2016 20:53:21 GMT @riogho said:

Mar 23, 2016 20:46:39 GMT Alex English said:

Then compare that to the madness of the West. There is a five headed monster made up of OKC, POR, GSW, DAL and then myself. It's only luck that can help get you to the Finals. Plus LAC is lurking in 6th, they can make a run too.

I'd like to move the city of Denver a thousand miles to the east.

Anyone even trying to compete with the top 5 teams in the west is crazy. Tanking is the only thing that makes sense. I could sign 4 max contract guys and still be worse off than a Denver or GSW.

Trying to win games makes sense in real life because money, but here there is no glory getting swept in the playoffs, or narrowly missing the cut. That type of stuff is a recipe to become Sacramento.

Not everyone thinks like you do. You personally just can't make the playoffs. I could lose with ease. I'm not a loser and my team will try to win no matter what. Anything is possible once you make the playoffs. You can't just be a loser because you can't GM well enough to win. If I'm wrong prove it to me. Prove you don't have to tank. You always have so many opinions and things to say. Back that shit up. Show us you can GM a Winning Team!!

[Brandon Roy]

very tight battle of position in the West 1 win or 1 lose could change everything

[Deleted]

Mar 23, 2016 21:16:10 GMT JR Wiles said:

Mar 23, 2016 20:53:21 GMT @riogho said:

Anyone even trying to compete with the top 5 teams in the west is crazy. Tanking is the only thing that makes sense. I could sign 4 max contract guys and still be worse off than a Denver or GSW.

Trying to win games makes sense in real life because money, but here there is no glory getting swept in the playoffs, or narrowly missing the cut. That type of stuff is a recipe to become Sacramento.

Not everyone thinks like you do. You personally just can't make the playoffs. I could lose with ease. I'm not a loser and my team will try to win no matter what. Anything is possible once you make the playoffs. You can't just be a loser because you can't GM well enough to win. If I'm wrong prove it to me. Prove you don't have to tank. You always have so many opinions and things to say. Back that shit up. Show us you can GM a Winning Team!!

I have a plan, unlike some GMs here who think it's dumb to plan a year ahead. I'm patient.

See you in 2018, JR. Until then I will gladly hand you the wins.

[Spike Lee]

adam isnt in d5 to win, hes here to collect his favorite young guys and watch them develop

[Walt Frazier]

Only reason I went to get Collison (and I thank Brian for this line of thought) is to show Bledsoe (and Favors) how good this team can be, and IS being, by competing. And winning. And making the playoffs, even with Eric Bledsoe.

Otherwise, I would have made a few minor moves to be a little worse. But, that line of thought, I wanted to be as good as I could WITHOUT Bledsoe, and before guys like Okafor and WCS and some others get more rating increases (presuming a little bit here but I don't think most of my guys have maxed out yet on their ratings...McCollum too).

Anyway, look how this team is playing. We were playing great with Bledsoe, took a dive without him, added Collison and shot back up. Gimme Bledsoe back with all these guys developed further (higher ratings) and we're pushing into that upper echelon of the West before long.

Love you TWolves!

[Hanamichi Sakuragi]

Mar 23, 2016 18:40:00 GMT James Kay said:

Pretty much ready to start boiling that shoe. The landscape of the East has changed somewhat since the previous season, now more than half of the conference is tanking – with our without their pick. The East is really in terrible shape now, and for the future.

ORL, NYK, BOS, and ATL are flat out racing to the bottom. Boston and New York at least have multiple first rounders this year – could possibly finally be Ian’s year

CLE, IND, DET, and WAS, are sadly in limbo. No pick, yet unlikely to make the playoffs. Between them, they have Porzingis, Russel, Portis, and (Millsap?).

I think Detroit, barring a move which sees the departure of Millsap, is the only contender to fight Cleveland for that last playoff spot. Making that playoff spot could be really solid for Detroit when he makes pitches to players in the off-season.

That's funny James By the way, did you prepare the shoe already?

[Hanamichi Sakuragi]

Mar 23, 2016 21:16:10 GMT JR Wiles said:

Mar 23, 2016 20:53:21 GMT @riogho said:

Anyone even trying to compete with the top 5 teams in the west is crazy. Tanking is the only thing that makes sense. I could sign 4 max contract guys and still be worse off than a Denver or GSW.

Trying to win games makes sense in real life because money, but here there is no glory getting swept in the playoffs, or narrowly missing the cut. That type of stuff is a recipe to become Sacramento.

Not everyone thinks like you do. You personally just can't make the playoffs. I could lose with ease. I'm not a loser and my team will try to win no matter what. Anything is possible once you make the playoffs. You can't just be a loser because you can't GM well enough to win. If I'm wrong prove it to me. Prove you don't have to tank. You always have so many opinions and things to say. Back that shit up. Show us you can GM a Winning Team!!

How about you? Can you really describe yourself as a winner with your past results? 

[Deleted]

Mar 23, 2016 23:46:45 GMT Walt Frazier said:

Only reason I went to get Collison (and I thank Brian for this line of thought) is to show Bledsoe (and Favors) how good this team can be, and IS being, by competing. And winning. And making the playoffs, even with Eric Bledsoe.

Otherwise, I would have made a few minor moves to be a little worse. But, that line of thought, I wanted to be as good as I could WITHOUT Bledsoe, and before guys like Okafor and WCS and some others get more rating increases (presuming a little bit here but I don't think most of my guys have maxed out yet on their ratings...McCollum too).

Anyway, look how this team is playing. We were playing great with Bledsoe, took a dive without him, added Collison and shot back up. Gimme Bledsoe back with all these guys developed further (higher ratings) and we're pushing into that upper echelon of the West before long.

Love you TWolves!

You're the one team in the West that has a shot of being a giant killer these next couple years.

[JR Wiles]

Mar 23, 2016 23:57:32 GMT Hanamichi Sakuragi said:

Mar 23, 2016 21:16:10 GMT JR Wiles said:

Not everyone thinks like you do. You personally just can't make the playoffs. I could lose with ease. I'm not a loser and my team will try to win no matter what. Anything is possible once you make the playoffs. You can't just be a loser because you can't GM well enough to win. If I'm wrong prove it to me. Prove you don't have to tank. You always have so many opinions and things to say. Back that shit up. Show us you can GM a Winning Team!!

How about you? Can you really describe yourself as a winner with your past results?


I try winning ALL my games. That's the difference. If we played to lose we would be in the top of the lottery each season . its not hard to lose.

[Deleted]

Mar 24, 2016 0:54:29 GMT JR Wiles said:

Mar 23, 2016 23:57:32 GMT Hanamichi Sakuragi said:

How about you? Can you really describe yourself as a winner with your past results?


I try winning ALL my games. That's the difference. If we played to lose we would be in the top of the lottery each season . its not hard to lose.

I don't care what's hard, I care what's most likely to work, and what gives me a window when the West will be weaker.

You talk about "winning" but anyone knows that games don't mean shit.

I'm going to win a ring. 

[James Kay]

Mar 24, 2016 1:20:25 GMT @riogho said:

Mar 24, 2016 0:54:29 GMT JR Wiles said:

I don't care what's hard, I care what's most likely to work

Jul 30, 2015 2:56:13 GMT @riogho said:

Blowing up and rebuilding the team is the only true show of skill.

There is one thing to "plan" like 12 contracts a year so you can sign someone like Marc Gasol, than it is to collect draft picks, do hundreds of hours of personal scouting and hit on your draft picks. One takes like 3 hours and the ability to make a good pitch or already be lucky enough to have a good team, while the other shows actual basketball knowledge.

Rebuilding is the only fun way to play.

But you also wanna do it the way with the most "skill"

[Deleted]

Mar 24, 2016 1:43:28 GMT James Kay said:

Mar 24, 2016 1:20:25 GMT @riogho said:

I don't care what's hard, I care what's most likely to work

Jul 30, 2015 2:56:13 GMT @riogho said:

Blowing up and rebuilding the team is the only true show of skill.

There is one thing to "plan" like 12 contracts a year so you can sign someone like Marc Gasol, than it is to collect draft picks, do hundreds of hours of personal scouting and hit on your draft picks. One takes like 3 hours and the ability to make a good pitch or already be lucky enough to have a good team, while the other shows actual basketball knowledge.

Rebuilding is the only fun way to play.

But you also wanna do it the way with the most "skill"

Hey now, I'm working on sounding like less of an asshole!

[Mike Krzyzewski]

For all you guys who keep saying 5 teams and everyone else is crazy, you might want to consider the Western conference team who has the 2nd longest win streak with 5 straight as well as being only 5.5 games out of 2nd in the very competitive West.

Keep sleeping on LAC...

[Hanamichi Sakuragi]

Mar 24, 2016 0:54:29 GMT JR Wiles said:

Mar 23, 2016 23:57:32 GMT Hanamichi Sakuragi said:

How about you? Can you really describe yourself as a winner with your past results?


I try winning ALL my games. That's the difference. If we played to lose we would be in the top of the lottery each season . its not hard to lose.

So does trying to win all your games makes you a winner? And because the tankers are trying to loss all their games it made them losers?

[Spike Lee]

Mar 24, 2016 0:54:29 GMT JR Wiles said:

Mar 23, 2016 23:57:32 GMT Hanamichi Sakuragi said:

If Adam wanted to, I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to field a team better than yours.

Everyone has their own strategy. Your way obviously isn't working so I'm not sure what gives you the right to criticize others' plans.

[Hanamichi Sakuragi]

Mar 24, 2016 4:19:44 GMT Spike Lee said:

Mar 24, 2016 0:54:29 GMT JR Wiles said:

If Adam wanted to, I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to field a team better than yours.

Everyone has their own strategy. Your way obviously isn't working so I'm not sure what gives you the right to criticize others' plans.

That's too harsh Spike. 

[Ian Noble]

What's amazing is that, if we are talking about a top 6 teams in the West, there's going to be at least two first round matchup featuring them.

[Jeremiah Hill]

Mar 24, 2016 0:54:29 GMT JR Wiles said:

Mar 23, 2016 23:57:32 GMT Hanamichi Sakuragi said:

How about you? Can you really describe yourself as a winner with your past results?


I try winning ALL my games. That's the difference. If we played to lose we would be in the top of the lottery each season . its not hard to lose.

It is hard to lose. I can't even put together a decent losing streak to get back to the bottom of the West.