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Post by Bryan Colangelo on Mar 6, 2016 18:56:10 GMT
To Toronto Raptors
76| DeMarre Carroll - $490,180 - $490,180
73| Cleanthony Early - $959,400 - $1,000,700 - $1,806,264 - $2,709,395
Total Salary Before Trade: $67,437,616
Total Salary After Trade: $68,887,196
To Minnesota Timberwolves
2016 - 1st Rounder - Toronto Raptors
Total Salary Before Trade: $69,080,937
Total Salary After Trade: $67,631,357
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Post by Bryan Colangelo on Mar 6, 2016 18:57:35 GMT
I accept, my 1st rounder will likely be in the mid 20's and I get Carroll back to play SF incase Korver leaves and that 1st rounder is basically selecting Cleanthony.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Mar 6, 2016 19:02:56 GMT
Accept on my end. I have SF depth and I'm still building, so another 1st round pick can either be a useful trade piece or just might get me a decent player.
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Post by Alex English on Mar 6, 2016 19:14:44 GMT
I really don't know why Toronto would trade away a 1st and not really get anything of use long-term. Cleanthony has been a bust so far and Carroll won't earn his bird rights in Toronto. This pick also has the potential to be really good. Lowry, DeRozan, Draymond and Horford could all slip and fall on their icy front steps and be injured for the rest of the season. The Raptors could lose all their remaining games and finish 26-56 and have a top 10 pick this year. All for what? A rental of Demarre Carroll? I have to reject.
Actually, I accept. This is robbery by Toronto, there is almost no chance that pick turns into a player better than Carroll. But seriously, the other thread sounds almost as stupid as this post. #freeJR
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TOR - MIN
Mar 6, 2016 20:27:50 GMT
via mobile
Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Mar 6, 2016 20:27:50 GMT
#freeJR
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Post by Deleted on Mar 6, 2016 22:26:16 GMT
It's been awhile since I've seen a trade here where all sides were winners...
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Mar 6, 2016 22:51:27 GMT
That's a fair trade. 1st round picks are too overvalued this days.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Mar 6, 2016 23:49:58 GMT
That's a fair trade. 1st round picks are too overvalued this days. There's just a fine line for me. The more you know about the pick, the better picture you get. This year's Raptors team is set, and Colangelo isn't going to blow anything up. We pretty much know where that pick is going to be. Something like next year's Chicago 1st just has a lot of volatility to it, from that other trade. Plus as I've said, my opinion is that the players JR got in that other deal have very low value in the league. Everyone seemed to pretty much agree with that except Alex who wants the trade to go through b/c he is winning it, again, and JR who has shown a pattern of overvaluing "established" players that often end up being players on the downswing who other teams are more than willing to ship off for 1st round picks. Anyway, I agree this trade is pretty straight-forward, but it's b/c we know what the 1st is with pretty decent certainty. |
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Post by Danny Longley on Mar 7, 2016 5:15:08 GMT
Accept.
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Mar 7, 2016 5:21:57 GMT
That's a fair trade. 1st round picks are too overvalued this days. There's just a fine line for me. The more you know about the pick, the better picture you get. This year's Raptors team is set, and Colangelo isn't going to blow anything up. We pretty much know where that pick is going to be. Something like next year's Chicago 1st just has a lot of volatility to it, from that other trade. Plus as I've said, my opinion is that the players JR got in that other deal have very low value in the league. Everyone seemed to pretty much agree with that except Alex who wants the trade to go through b/c he is winning it, again, and JR who has shown a pattern of overvaluing "established" players that often end up being players on the downswing who other teams are more than willing to ship off for 1st round picks. Anyway, I agree this trade is pretty straight-forward, but it's b/c we know what the 1st is with pretty decent certainty. And seriously, the success rates of 1st round picks, prorated to their number, is really bad. I think the #1 pick is barely above 50% so just imagine those at the 20s. |
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Post by Charles Barkley on Mar 7, 2016 19:21:00 GMT
There's just a fine line for me. The more you know about the pick, the better picture you get. This year's Raptors team is set, and Colangelo isn't going to blow anything up. We pretty much know where that pick is going to be. Something like next year's Chicago 1st just has a lot of volatility to it, from that other trade. Plus as I've said, my opinion is that the players JR got in that other deal have very low value in the league. Everyone seemed to pretty much agree with that except Alex who wants the trade to go through b/c he is winning it, again, and JR who has shown a pattern of overvaluing "established" players that often end up being players on the downswing who other teams are more than willing to ship off for 1st round picks. Anyway, I agree this trade is pretty straight-forward, but it's b/c we know what the 1st is with pretty decent certainty. And seriously, the success rates of 1st round picks, prorated to their number, is really bad. I think the #1 pick is barely above 50% so just imagine those at the 20s. But what is your definition of success? Or the definition of success in the study? Should the definition of success change as the deeper we get in to the round? |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 7, 2016 19:33:14 GMT
And seriously, the success rates of 1st round picks, prorated to their number, is really bad. I think the #1 pick is barely above 50% so just imagine those at the 20s. But what is your definition of success? Or the definition of success in the study? Should the definition of success change as the deeper we get in to the round?    |
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Post by Charles Barkley on Mar 7, 2016 20:05:20 GMT
But what is your definition of success? Or the definition of success in the study? Should the definition of success change as the deeper we get in to the round? Want to know why the ones near 30 have a higher PER than the ones in the early 20's? Spurs. |
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Post by Ian Noble on Mar 7, 2016 22:09:10 GMT
I accept.
Trade passed.
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Post by Ian Noble on Mar 7, 2016 22:13:02 GMT
lol this is the first trade in which every player is injured
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Post by JR Wiles on Mar 7, 2016 22:14:53 GMT
Early was sent down to the D League.
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TOR - MIN
Mar 8, 2016 17:10:10 GMT
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Post by Ian Noble on Mar 8, 2016 17:10:10 GMT
Early was sent down to the D League. I thought he got shot in the leg?! |
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Post by Bryan Colangelo on Mar 8, 2016 17:14:33 GMT
Early was sent down to the D League. I thought he got shot in the leg?! he did but he's back playing in the D - league |
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Post by Ian Noble on Mar 9, 2016 12:31:26 GMT
I thought he got shot in the leg?! he did but he's back playing in the D - league I'm no bullet wound expert but damn that is quick! |
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