Kevin Hollis
Former Thunder GM for 7 years
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Feb 7, 2016 13:05:11 GMT
Current - 75
Suggested - 77
Averaging 10.8 ppg, 1.6 steals, 1.6 blocks, 1.5 assists, 8.1 rebounds, and shooting 53.3%. Always hard to rate 76er players, but an increase is warranted.
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Feb 7, 2016 15:47:26 GMT
76
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Post by James Kay on Feb 7, 2016 18:29:40 GMT
Keep in mind:
Since Ish Smith arrive (a starting caliber PG):
Noel has averaged: 65% shooting. 2.4 blocks. 1.9 steals. 12 points. 8.6 rebounds.
79. He's that good on defense.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 7, 2016 23:42:57 GMT
Ish smith is definitely not a starting caliber point guard. However he is an NBA player, that's all philly really needed at guard. Ish has been dismantling teams with the pnr with Nerlens and okafor.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Feb 8, 2016 2:06:26 GMT
He's pretty great on D (awareness needs points) plus his block AND steal need a ton of points. A bit more athletic than most big men. Dunk should be very high, Inside should be decent/solid. Good/great (not elite yet) rebounder.
80 for me
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Post by Charles Barkley on Feb 11, 2016 0:00:04 GMT
Think a 79 is good. Don't want to have to bring him down to a 69 when he leaves the 76ers and sucks.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Feb 11, 2016 1:04:03 GMT
75 the "defensive anchor" of one of the worst teams in the history of sports.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Feb 11, 2016 1:21:23 GMT
75 the "defensive anchor" of one of the worst teams in the history of sports. Not just a "defensive anchor". One of the best rim protectors in the game I thought. |
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Post by Brandon Roy on Feb 12, 2016 7:19:32 GMT
78..
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Post by Kareem Abdul-Jabbar on Feb 13, 2016 4:32:26 GMT
78 ^^
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Post by Deleted on Feb 13, 2016 21:14:12 GMT
Great rim protector, able to run the PNR. 0 other abilities. That gives us... 77?
77
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Post by Walt Frazier on Feb 14, 2016 1:13:51 GMT
Great rim protector, able to run the PNR. 0 other abilities. That gives us... 77? 77 I mean. Good rebounding. Dunk can be rather high. Steal and Block could both be argued in the high 80's / pushing 90. He has some athleticism. Sometimes you look at things in a super black/white way, but there are a lot of things we need to account for with some players, Nerlens included. Not a lot, as in a Draymond do-literally-everything type of guy, but Nerlens' DAware, sTeal, Block can be through the roof, Rebounding should be good (not elite, but good), Dunking pretty high, solid Inside, athletic stats are solid for a big. Basically, his Passing/Handle aren't amazing, nor is his FG or 3PT, but he does some things REALLY well so that makes up for some other deficiencies in my mind. Anyway, my beef isn't with your rating, but with your "0 other abilities" comment. It's simply erroneous. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 14, 2016 1:48:46 GMT
Great rim protector, able to run the PNR. 0 other abilities. That gives us... 77? 77 I mean. Good rebounding. Dunk can be rather high. Steal and Block could both be argued in the high 80's / pushing 90. He has some athleticism. Sometimes you look at things in a super black/white way, but there are a lot of things we need to account for with some players, Nerlens included. Not a lot, as in a Draymond do-literally-everything type of guy, but Nerlens' DAware, sTeal, Block can be through the roof, Rebounding should be good (not elite, but good), Dunking pretty high, solid Inside, athletic stats are solid for a big. Basically, his Passing/Handle aren't amazing, nor is his FG or 3PT, but he does some things REALLY well so that makes up for some other deficiencies in my mind. Anyway, my beef isn't with your rating, but with your "0 other abilities" comment. It's simply erroneous. ? I said the exact same things you said, just more concise. Saying someone needs high daware, stealing, blocking, and dunking is literally the same thing as saying he is a great rim protector and he runs the PNR. As far as his rebounding, not sure if you are serious or not, he rebounds at exactly the average rate for someone his size that plays his position. |
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Post by Walt Frazier on Feb 14, 2016 4:22:34 GMT
I mean. Good rebounding. Dunk can be rather high. Steal and Block could both be argued in the high 80's / pushing 90. He has some athleticism. Sometimes you look at things in a super black/white way, but there are a lot of things we need to account for with some players, Nerlens included. Not a lot, as in a Draymond do-literally-everything type of guy, but Nerlens' DAware, sTeal, Block can be through the roof, Rebounding should be good (not elite, but good), Dunking pretty high, solid Inside, athletic stats are solid for a big. Basically, his Passing/Handle aren't amazing, nor is his FG or 3PT, but he does some things REALLY well so that makes up for some other deficiencies in my mind. Anyway, my beef isn't with your rating, but with your "0 other abilities" comment. It's simply erroneous. ? I said the exact same things you said, just more concise. Saying someone needs high daware, stealing, blocking, and dunking is literally the same thing as saying he is a great rim protector and he runs the PNR. As far as his rebounding, not sure if you are serious or not, he rebounds at exactly the average rate for someone his size that plays his position. "more concise" in this case sounds a lot more down-putting. I just see a lot more to his game I guess. So he's an average rebounder for a PF/C basically? Which makes him a good rebounder out of the entire NBA pool of players who rebound, I would say. Just as I said. |
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Post by Charles Barkley on Mar 4, 2016 0:57:38 GMT
b2f
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