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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2016 16:33:43 GMT
16-9-2 on 53% and as a bonus 33% from 3
he has an elite usage% to tov% ratio (24.2/12.6) and is an absolute beast. No one even gives a shit about wiggins anymore in Minnesota.
Current Rating: 77
Suggested Rating: 82 for conservatism, playing like an 84-85 right now though.
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Post by James Kay on Jan 13, 2016 16:45:14 GMT
16-9-2 on 53% and as a bonus 33% from 3 No one even gives a shit about wiggins anymore in Minnesota. I give a shit  ( 82 |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 13, 2016 16:51:12 GMT
16-9-2 on 53% and as a bonus 33% from 3 No one even gives a shit about wiggins anymore in Minnesota. I give a shit ( 82 wiggins needs to be rated like a 78 |
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Post by James Kay on Jan 13, 2016 16:59:50 GMT
I give a shit ( 82 wiggins needs to be rated like a 78 Meh. I dont think so. He’s still scoring 20 + points on blahh efficiency with ton of iso plays. His rating was too high initially, though. His block rating probably needs to be looked at lol. |
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jan 13, 2016 18:49:36 GMT
Caveat on his 3pt % - Bearing in mind, we DO need to have some skill represented there - But he takes 4 3pt shots every 5 games. .8 per game. So, it's there but it's not a huge part of his game. If we don't have the points for it, we can leave it a little lower and still represent him well.
Just a general note. As for his rating. 53% shooting, shot chart looks like he does have a legit 2pt shot, not all in the paint. Shooting 44.3% outside the paint and inside the 3pt line, or something close to there. I think vorped is slightly out of date right now.
Inside rating should be quite high, and dunk too.
85% from the line is quite tasty. 1.8 blocks with .6 steals, nice. 2 TO per game isn't ugly or great, but considering his age and how often he has the ball, it's about as expected.
So... 16 / 9 / 1 with 2 block and half a steal. Shooting 53% / 33% / 85%
I'll go 82 for now, but if/as that 3pt shot fills out, that'll skyrocket his rating. If we had to account for it and give him full credit for everything right now, I agree he'd be in the 84-85 conversation.
82, let him do it longer. Still a good boost.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jan 13, 2016 18:52:45 GMT
No increase, he's good but he's the second best player on a team void of options. His minutes are gonna go down with Pekovic coming back and then this rating will look too high.
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jan 13, 2016 19:57:45 GMT
82
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Jan 13, 2016 20:30:38 GMT
83
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Post by Sam Bowie on Jan 14, 2016 1:19:58 GMT
Nah. This is ridiculous. Why is Towns getting a so much higher rating than Porzingis. Dude even got a solid 3-pointer.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 14, 2016 1:26:02 GMT
Nah. This is ridiculous. Why is Towns getting a so much higher rating than Porzingis. Dude even got a solid 3-pointer. KAT makes shots at a 10% higher clip than Porzingas. He gets 1.4 more rebounds per game. He gets 2 more points per game. Their 3pt% is literally within .003 of each other. He does all of that with a smaller usage rate than Kris. Karl Anthony Towns is better on defense, and more efficient on offense. |
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Post by Sam Bowie on Jan 14, 2016 1:31:44 GMT
Nah. You are wrong.
1) Porzingis defense is elite! If you don't believe me, watch him play.
2) Towns fg % is obviously higher because he shoots less 3s.
3) Porzingis is winning games...
4) Porzingis is getting better as season progresses. Towns is getting worse.
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Post by Alex English on Jan 14, 2016 4:07:05 GMT
I disagree with you Bowie. Nah. You are wrong. 1) Porzingis defense is elite! If you don't believe me, watch him play. I wouldn't use the word elite. I think Towns is better, but that's not to say Porzingis is bad. 2) Towns fg % is obviously higher because he shoots less 3s. Towns FG% is higher because he's a better shooter. Towns FG% at rim: 71.1% FG% from 3-10ft: 44.0% FG% from 10-16ft: 46.9% FG% from 16-3pt line: 45.7% FG% from three: 33.3% compared to Porzingis FG% at rim: 56.2% FG% from 3-10ft: 37.2% FG% from 10-16ft: 38.7% FG% from 16-3pt line: 48.1% FG% from three: 33.6% 3) Porzingis is winning games... Porzingis has better stats when the Knicks lose. In wins: 13.7 PPG, 6.9 RPG, 1.2 APG, 0.5 SPG, 2.2 BPG, 43.1 FG%, 37.5 3P% In losses: 14.2 PPG, 9.0 RPG, 1.0 APG, 1.0 SPG, 1.8 BPG, 42.6 FG%, 30.3 3P% When the Knicks win Porzingis is a more efficient three point shooter. That's the only big difference, he's not really playing better. 4) Porzingis is getting better as season progresses. Towns is getting worse. Not true, and actually Porzingis is the one who's been much more inconsistent, going through stretches where his shot isn't falling. Towns: First 10 games: 15.5 PPG, 10.2 RPG, 2.2 BPG, 48.1 FG% Second 10 games: 14.0 PPG, 8.0 RPG, 2.1 BPG, 57.5 FG% Third 10 games: 18.9 PPG, 9.8 RPG, 1.6 BPG, 54.3 FG% Last 9 games: 14.8 PPG, 9.0 RPG, 1.1 BPG, 51.7 FG% Porzingis: First 10 games: 11.5 PPG, 8.8 RPG, 1.1 BPG, 39.8 FG% Second 10 games: 16.7 PPG, 9.9 RPG, 2.9 BPG, 47.2 FG% Third 10 games: 11.8 PPG, 6.0 RPG, 2.1 BPG, 39.8 FG% Last 9 games: 15.6 PPG, 7.0 RPG, 1.8 BPG, 43.8 FG% |
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Post by Alex English on Jan 14, 2016 4:08:19 GMT
I'd give Towns an 80.
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Post by Sam Bowie on Jan 14, 2016 4:40:02 GMT
Well, yeah. I used the wrong phrase. I said "You are wrong" when I should have said "I think you are wrong". I think I give credit to Porzingis for things other don't care about. I wont bother to explain myself though.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jan 14, 2016 5:36:03 GMT
Towns has one of the best passers in the game feeding him the ball which helps his FT numbers a lot. I think that Kris is probably a little more athletic maybe less strong than Towns.
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Post by Kareem Abdul-Jabbar on Jan 14, 2016 13:38:31 GMT
80 ^^
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jan 15, 2016 2:35:32 GMT
I do believe he is not a 77 but considering every thing, giving him more than 80 is too much.
80 is the best value for any rookie who is playing on a non-playoff team, IMHO. Although, he is also very versatile.
81.
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Jan 15, 2016 2:50:06 GMT
My vote was stupid change to 80
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Post by Allen Iverson on Jan 15, 2016 2:57:37 GMT
I do believe he is not a 77 but considering every thing, giving him more than 80 is too much. 80 is the best value for any rookie who is playing on a non-playoff team, IMHO. Although, he is also very versatile. 81. "Giving him more than 80 is too much." *Gives an 81*  |
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Post by Sam Bowie on Jan 15, 2016 3:59:43 GMT
"Giving him more than 80 is too much." *Gives an 81* Classic Sakuragi  |
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jan 15, 2016 4:21:59 GMT
I do believe he is not a 77 but considering every thing, giving him more than 80 is "KINDA" too much. 80 is the best value for any rookie who is playing on a non-playoff team, IMHO. Although, he is also very versatile. 81. "Giving him more than 80 is too much." *Gives an 81* Much better now?  |
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Post by Sam Bowie on Jan 15, 2016 4:27:49 GMT
SAME "KINDA" DUMB THING.
just messing around
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Post by Clyde Drexler on Jan 15, 2016 9:38:27 GMT
I think we should wait until next season to bump his rating.
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Post by Brandon Roy on Jan 16, 2016 19:34:34 GMT
79 for him..
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Post by Charles Barkley on Mar 3, 2016 23:23:51 GMT
Tallied and Closed.
Final Verdict: 80
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