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Post by Alex English on Dec 20, 2015 4:12:33 GMT
 Current Rating: 88 Suggested Rating: 93 Stats: 26.1 PPG, 7.9 RPG, 4.0 APG, 1.6 SPG, 0.2 BPG, 43.8 FG%, 42.2 3P%, 84.6 FT%, 24.0 PER Somehow the Pacers are good this season, somehow is because Paul George is a beast. He's killing it for Indiana so far and is clearly totally healthy after breaking his leg with team USA. He's been great on offense, including shooting 42% from three, and unlike my other star wing player, Paul George plays defense. In fact PG is amazing at defense. He's a top 5 perimeter defender in the NBA and is currently 10th in Defensive Win Shares. The only perimeter players ahead of him are Kawhi Leonard, who we can all agree is the best perimeter defender in the league, and Jimmy Butler, who is also amazing on defense. Then it's my boy Paul George. He's a complete two way player. Time to get him into the 90s. |
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Dec 20, 2015 4:24:09 GMT
He's great, 93 seems fair.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2015 4:26:02 GMT
I just want to see him continue to do this through the all-star break... then I have no problem giving him a 93.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Dec 20, 2015 6:17:06 GMT
92 right now, but might go higher later in the season.
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Dec 20, 2015 13:25:48 GMT
90
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Dec 20, 2015 14:08:52 GMT
93 such a boss.
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Post by Bryan Colangelo on Dec 20, 2015 19:33:50 GMT
94
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Post by James Kay on Dec 20, 2015 20:35:09 GMT
90
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Dec 22, 2015 11:45:00 GMT
I love him but I hate his inconsistency in the offensive end. He has 9 games of less than 20 points. That is 1/3 of his total games. When you takeout his two 40+ performance, his numbers will go down to 24 pts, 7.8 rebs and 4.1 asts.
91.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 23, 2015 0:08:52 GMT
90
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Post by Sam Bowie on Dec 23, 2015 0:26:58 GMT
90
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Post by Alex English on Dec 25, 2015 20:45:05 GMT
90, 90, 90, 90, 90, 92, 93, 93, 93, 93, 94 = 91.6 = 92
Paul George currently at a 92.
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Post by Sam Bowie on Dec 25, 2015 20:48:30 GMT
91.6 = 91 (with ratings halfway between a 91 and a 92). At least that is the way it should be, lol.
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Post by Alex English on Dec 25, 2015 20:53:26 GMT
91.6 = 91 (with ratings halfway between a 91 and a 92). At least that is the way it should be, lol. Literally forever we've done it by rounding to the nearest rating. Same rules as grade school. At .5 you round up. I guess we could start doing that though, it's not a bad idea. We know that about 16 rating points is equal to 1 overall rating point. Guys halfway could get 8 extra points. |
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Post by Kareem Abdul-Jabbar on Dec 25, 2015 23:13:32 GMT
91 ^^
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Post by Chris Mullin on Jan 2, 2016 8:31:40 GMT
90
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Post by Brandon Roy on Jan 11, 2016 3:01:42 GMT
93.. He really deserves this.. he might go higher than that if he stays at SF position
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jan 19, 2016 10:59:20 GMT
increase my vote by 1.
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Post by Alex English on Jan 24, 2016 19:55:55 GMT
Bump.
Half the league has voted now.
90, 90, 90, 90, 90, 91, 91, 92, 93, 93, 93, 93, 93, 94 = 91.6 = 92
Paul George at a 92.
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Post by James Kay on Jan 24, 2016 20:23:37 GMT
OOOPH. Not to be that guy, but in Paul George's first 22 games (through December 12th, 2015), he averaged
27 points, 8 boards, 4.2 assists, 1.6 steals, 3.5 turnovers shooting 44 FG% and 43 3P%
Since then, in his next 22 games (12/14/2015 - 01/23/2016), he averaged
20 points, 6.4 boards, 3.5 assists, 2.3 steals, 4 turnovers, shooting 38 FG% and 33 3P%
Not really a good look, IMO, to average more turnovers than assists. His shooting percentages have really really fallen off. PG is really good, but he is undeniably streaky. I can't explain it.
Just saying, a 92 seems high. I definitely fell victim to his early hot streak.
Gonna lower my vote from 93 to 90.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jan 24, 2016 20:30:46 GMT
OOOPH. Not to be that guy, but in Paul George's first 22 games (through December 12th, 2015), he averaged 27 points, 8 boards, 4.2 assists, 1.6 steals, 3.5 turnovers shooting 44 FG% and 43 3P% Since then, in his next 22 games (12/14/2015 - 01/23/2016), he averaged 20 points, 6.4 boards, 3.5 assists, 2.3 steals, 4 turnovers, shooting 38 FG% and 33 3P% Not really a good look, IMO, to average more turnovers than assists. His shooting percentages have really really fallen off. PG is really good, but he is undeniably streaky. I can't explain it. Just saying, a 92 seems high. I definitely fell victim to his early hot streak. Gonna lower my vote from 93 to 90. Ouch! That takes him to a 91.33. I kinda think that's fine, that one OVR point isn't a make or break right now. I think when we build him though, I might keep a tiny bit of his awareness lower than I might usually, to try to account for some streakiness. Nothing major to get worried about, just a little bit. |
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Post by Charles Barkley on Jan 24, 2016 21:56:42 GMT
His FG% is "bad" for such an elite player, but the reasoning is because he is a volume shooter. No one else on the Pacers can really create besides him and Monta Ellis, and Ellis has fallen off.
PG is great in my opinion, love him. But it is really hard to overlook his 41.2% shooting from the field this season. Beyond that, he is averaging just as many turnovers per game as assists. Other things across the board are up, like his 3PT%, steals, rebounds.
He is not an 88. He does so many things well and I don't think he gets enough credit for those things he does at an All-Star level. I am going to go with a
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Post by Charles Barkley on Jan 25, 2016 5:17:22 GMT
I am actually going to change my rating right quick, I will do it in my original post above this.
I am rated PG13 a 96.
I get that it will be thrown out, and that is dumb.
But here is why he needs to be that high:
When we increase a player, say DeAndre Jordan, its obvious where the points need to go, Dunk, Rebounding, Blocks, Athletic shit, you know, the basics, and we make him really good in those areas, because he is really good in those areas comparatively.
Now, when you have a wing, such as PG13, Kawhi, Giannis, LeBron, Butler, etc, the really all around players, players that do 4+ things at an above average level to their contemporaries, they need more points in those areas as well as athletic stats, plus FG, plus whatever else.
Long story shorter, we in the RC, never have enough points to go around for not just elite wing players but above average wings in the NBA. We are always left saying that there just isn't enough points to go around and I think it is a shame that every time we go in and update someone that we are left saying that. But it is true, and it sucks. I hope that you guys read this and see this. Thank you for your time and consideration.
Edit: I get that Giannis shouldn't be in the category with those guys, but he does a lot of things well right now, and he will get better in the future, and he will need more points, just as all of the 2 way wing players need those points. We are short points, and, truthfully, we need to overrate wings.
Fuck off about the, "well Paul George isn't better than James Harden" shit or whatever. There's a reason why when you go and play NBA 2K some positions are just naturally higher than others. and that is how it needs to be in here with wings.
Throw out your top 10 lists and quit cross comparing players based on their overall. Just because PG13 is a 96 and Harden is a 93, it doesn't mean PG is better. They play two different positions and are two vastly different players.
end rant but im sure this will come up more so in the future.
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Post by Clyde Drexler on Jan 25, 2016 13:08:40 GMT
I'll give PG13 a 92. I'm a huge fan of his game, but I do value Kawhi as the better player - whom I ranked 93.
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Post by Charles Barkley on Jan 26, 2016 23:22:18 GMT
Voting will be closing 1/29/2016 Currently: 90, 90, 90, 90, 90, 90, 91, 92, 92, 92, 93, 93, 93, 93, 94, 96 = 91.64 = 92James Kay is smart. James voted, then thought about it, then changed his vote, and changed his vote in his original thread. Be like James. Hanamichi Sakuragi is not smart. Hanamichi Sakuragi voted, then thought about it, and then changed his vote, by just saying he would like to add one to his vote. Dont be like Hanamichi Sakuragi , be like James Kay. Update your vote in your original post. Don't post your vote twice. Just once in your original vote post. |
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jan 26, 2016 23:28:59 GMT
Voting will be closing 1/29/2016 Currently: 90, 90, 90, 90, 90, 90, 91, 92, 92, 92, 93, 93, 93, 93, 94, 96 = 91.64 = 92James Kay is smart. James voted, then thought about it, then changed his vote, and changed his vote in his original thread. Be like James. Hanamichi Sakuragi is not smart. Hanamichi Sakuragi voted, then thought about it, and then changed his vote, by just saying he would like to add one to his vote. Dont be like Hanamichi Sakuragi , be like James Kay . Update your vote in your original post. Don't post your vote twice. Just once in your original vote post. Haha. Basically, my explanation in my first post still stands but I just decided to add 1 due to what I saw in some games. |
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Post by Charles Barkley on Jan 27, 2016 0:06:09 GMT
Voting will be closing 1/29/2016 Currently: 90, 90, 90, 90, 90, 90, 91, 92, 92, 92, 93, 93, 93, 93, 94, 96 = 91.64 = 92James Kay is smart. James voted, then thought about it, then changed his vote, and changed his vote in his original thread. Be like James. Hanamichi Sakuragi is not smart. Hanamichi Sakuragi voted, then thought about it, and then changed his vote, by just saying he would like to add one to his vote. Dont be like Hanamichi Sakuragi , be like James Kay . Update your vote in your original post. Don't post your vote twice. Just once in your original vote post. Haha. Basically, my explanation in my first post still stands but I just decided to add 1 due to what I saw in some games. And all I am saying is that when you decide to change your rating, do so in the original post. Do not post a second time with a new rating in it. And do not post a second time asking us to add to your rating. If you feel the need to change your rating, simply do so in the original post. If you feel the need to explain why you changed your rating, simply explain why in a new post but DO NOT post that new rating in the new post. That way, your votes are not counted twice, as I am trying to do this as quickly as possible and add it up as quickly as possible as this is a painstaking process and it is just long but something that needs to be done and cannot have a mistake in it. |
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jan 27, 2016 0:17:00 GMT
Haha. Basically, my explanation in my first post still stands but I just decided to add 1 due to what I saw in some games. And all I am saying is that when you decide to change your rating, do so in the original post. Do not post a second time with a new rating in it. And do not post a second time asking us to add to your rating. If you feel the need to change your rating, simply do so in the original post. If you feel the need to explain why you changed your rating, simply explain why in a new post but DO NOT post that new rating in the new post. That way, your votes are not counted twice, as I am trying to do this as quickly as possible and add it up as quickly as possible as this is a painstaking process and it is just long but something that needs to be done and cannot have a mistake in it. I actually thought I underline my vote in my original post. |
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Post by Charles Barkley on Jan 27, 2016 0:19:39 GMT
And all I am saying is that when you decide to change your rating, do so in the original post. Do not post a second time with a new rating in it. And do not post a second time asking us to add to your rating. If you feel the need to change your rating, simply do so in the original post. If you feel the need to explain why you changed your rating, simply explain why in a new post but DO NOT post that new rating in the new post. That way, your votes are not counted twice, as I am trying to do this as quickly as possible and add it up as quickly as possible as this is a painstaking process and it is just long but something that needs to be done and cannot have a mistake in it. I actually thought I underline my vote in my original post. Its alright, doesn't really matter. Just in future posts. It is not only you, it is a lot of people. I will call them out on it too, that way I am not confused as fuck trying to do this. |
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Post by Charles Barkley on Feb 3, 2016 21:00:17 GMT
Thread Closed
Verdict: 92
Gavel
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