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Post by Julius Erving on Jul 19, 2015 2:14:44 GMT
 Boston Celtics receive: 93 Russell Westbrook $17,775,975  Sacramento Kings receive:SAC '16 1st SAC '18 1st 75 Adreian Payne $1,535,000 $1,601,100 $2,456,087 $3,450,803 74 Shabazz Napier $1,170,500 $1,220,900 $2,008,381 $2,908,135 69 Anthony Bennett $3,503,500 $3,635,708 $3,749,680 DR Monterzl Harrell I accept. I will be able to get back our 1st round picks and some prospects for Russell. This trade will help our organization to tank this upcoming season. |
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Post by Spike Lee on Jul 19, 2015 3:46:42 GMT
lol this is a joke, right?
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Post by JR Wiles on Jul 19, 2015 3:47:17 GMT
Seriously...
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Post by Magic Johnson on Jul 19, 2015 3:49:44 GMT
Guys April Fools day was 3 months and 16-17 days ago.
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Post by JR Wiles on Jul 19, 2015 3:49:53 GMT
That's what I was thinking. I figured that they just wanted to get everyone flipping out. Definitely not going to pass. And if they alter it to pass I'm still disappointed in the trade..pass or fail.
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jul 19, 2015 4:05:27 GMT
No way this is approved. This is not good for either team.
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Post by Julius Erving on Jul 19, 2015 4:19:33 GMT
I'm in a difficult situation right now. I plan to get my picks back and tank. Even I have the bird rights of Russell Westbrook, I don't think that He will re-sign wih us since I haven't sign a notable Free agent this season. If I traded Westbrook to Ian Noble, I think that he can stand a chance to re-sign Russ since his team got more of young talents like Parker, Exum, McLemore, etc... |
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Post by Jay Z on Jul 19, 2015 6:25:35 GMT
Seems like a good haul on a player who's bird rights you can't give in the deal and also who he'd have a hard time bringing back now that Gasol is gone. Not to mention, with how the rose/bledsoe situation played out, you might have the same situation play out with Westbrook/lilard.
Ian has a nice group of players to build with in Parker Westbrook and Kanter that should get him to the second round of the playoffs. Westbrook could re -sign and Ian can bring in another Max contact player to compliment what he has here.
Win win for both teams in my opinion.
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Jul 19, 2015 7:01:13 GMT
Lol this can't be serious I would've traded so so much more
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Post by Clyde Drexler on Jul 19, 2015 9:48:31 GMT
Bring vlade back
Sorry Erving
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jul 19, 2015 10:17:41 GMT
I'm in a difficult situation right now. I plan to get my picks back and tank. Even I have the bird rights of Russell Westbrook, I don't think that He will re-sign wih us since I haven't sign a notable Free agent this season. If I traded Westbrook to Ian Noble, I think that he can stand a chance to re-sign Russ since his team got more of young talents like Parker, Exum, McLemore, etc... Not all players will resign because of your contendership status. A lot will re-sign because of your loyalty to them. |
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Post by Shane Battier on Jul 19, 2015 11:07:06 GMT
I'm in a difficult situation right now. I plan to get my picks back and tank. Even I have the bird rights of Russell Westbrook, I don't think that He will re-sign wih us since I haven't sign a notable Free agent this season. If I traded Westbrook to Ian Noble, I think that he can stand a chance to re-sign Russ since his team got more of young talents like Parker, Exum, McLemore, etc... Not all players will resign because of your contendership status. A lot will re-sign because of your loyalty to them. The Detroit Pistons was loyal to Greg Monroe. Ghazny did not trade him even though he doesn't have the assurance that Monroe will re-sign with his team. He showed great loyalty to Monroe. But did Monroe re-sign with the Pistons? Nah. What makes you think that Westbrook, who is a superstar, will re-sign with the Kings given their chaotic status. Monroe who is not a superstar (yet) wants to be a part of a team which can somehow contend. What more for a guy like Westbrook who wants to win now? You can argue that he has a lot of cap space and that he can convince other free agents to play with Westbrook but we know how difficult that is. Ghazny can attest to how problematic and stressful it can be. In fact, even Vlade himself had burnt out in just trying to re-sign Gasol, his own player. He also showed great loyalty to Gasol and gave a nice presentation to his player agent but we all know how it turned out. |
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Post by Shane Battier on Jul 19, 2015 11:15:19 GMT
Bring vlade back Sorry Erving Hmmmm, so are you proposing that we should bring Vlade back and let him take over the Kings again? How about Erving? Should we relieve him then? I think that this is disrespectful dude. |
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Post by Clyde Drexler on Jul 19, 2015 11:40:56 GMT
Bring vlade back Sorry Erving Hmmmm, so are you proposing that we should bring Vlade back and let him take over the Kings again? How about Erving? Should we relieve him then? I think that this is disrespectful dude. Haha I love Erving, definitely not disrespecting him. This is just something Vlade would hate, and I think he can get a lot more value for Westbrook. |
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Post by Ian Noble on Jul 19, 2015 11:44:54 GMT
I'm not even going to accept yet. Sorry Julius. I want to help the Kings rebuild but this could crucify my team and lose me some really good prospects.
For me this trade is all about the fact that I might be giving six really good prospects just to get the inside track on signing Westbrook, when all but three or four teams will have cap space next year to poach him from me. How good does my team have to perform next year to re-sign him? How good can this team perform? First round exit? How many playoff teams have had a 69 rated player in their lineup?
78 - Enes Kanter
81 - Jabari Parker
69 - Jerami Grant
74 - Ben McLemore
93 - Russell Westbrook
The main reason I've even contemplated this deal is because it's not fair on the Kings to be left in such a rubbish situation, if they can rebuild at least they control their destiny, but this is my team that I've given blood, sweat and tears to build and, even for a modern day Oscar Robertson, I'm not sure still. I don't expect any special treatment from the player agents, I certainly didn't get it this year.
I'll wait and see. Worst thing is that I'm away from home this weekend and don't have my computer so I can really assess how this affects my team in the long term. I absolutely love Westbrook, I think he's the best point guard in the league, top 5 player, but this is tough for me. I will check in later.
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jul 19, 2015 11:45:18 GMT
Not all players will resign because of your contendership status. A lot will re-sign because of your loyalty to them. The Detroit Pistons was loyal to Greg Monroe. Ghazny did not trade him even though he doesn't have the assurance that Monroe will re-sign with his team. He showed great loyalty to Monroe. But did Monroe re-sign with the Pistons? Nah. What makes you think that Westbrook, who is a superstar, will re-sign with the Kings given their chaotic status. Monroe who is not a superstar (yet) wants to be a part of a team which can somehow contend. What more for a guy like Westbrook who wants to win now? You can argue that he has a lot of cap space and that he can convince other free agents to play with Westbrook but we know how difficult that is. Ghazny can attest to how problematic and stressful it can be. In fact, even Vlade himself had burnt out in just trying to re-sign Gasol, his own player. He also showed great loyalty to Gasol and gave a nice presentation to his player agent but we all know how it turned out. Haha. Sorry, my statement was not complete. There should be a "... in real life." |
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Post by Alex English on Jul 19, 2015 13:21:57 GMT
I get why the Kings want this. A very possible future for them is to play out this season, then lose Westbrook for nothing in free agency. At that point they'd be forced to tank, but couldn't since the Celtics own two of their next three picks.
The trouble is, outside of getting their own picks back, this is bad for both teams. Westbrook should be able to get a lot more than this, but all that Boston is giving up will likely be a waste since it's almost guaranteed Westbrook would leave in free agency. Ian is just a few years behind a point where adding a player like him makes sense.
But then considering Westbrook's contract, maybe he isn't worth more than this. Draymond Green was in the same place last year, he ultimately went for Damien Inglis and a couple future 2nd rounders. That's hardly his real value, but even at such a discount, Houston still ended up giving that away for nothing since Green left in free agency.
I think a deal for the Kings to get their picks back makes more sense with Lillard. Ian would have two years to make the jump before having to re-sign him, which is definitely doable. With Lillard, Parker and Kanter they'd definitely have the makings of a future contender. But of course, Sacramento might want to keep Lillard as the core of their rebuild. I dunno, the Kings are in a tough place any way you look at it.
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Post by Shane Battier on Jul 19, 2015 13:42:06 GMT
I get why the Kings want this. A very possible future for them is to play out this season, then lose Westbrook for nothing in free agency. At that point they'd be forced to tank, but couldn't since the Celtics own two of their next three picks. The trouble is, outside of getting their own picks back, this is bad for both teams. Westbrook should be able to get a lot more than this, but all that Boston is giving up will likely be a waste since it's almost guaranteed Westbrook would leave in free agency. Ian is just a few years behind a point where adding a player like him makes sense. But then considering Westbrook's contract, maybe he isn't worth more than this. Draymond Green was in the same place last year, he ultimately went for Damien Inglis and a couple future 2nd rounders. That's hardly his real value, but even at such a discount, Houston still ended up giving that away for nothing since Green left in free agency. I think a deal for the Kings to get their picks back makes more sense with Lillard. Ian would have two years to make the jump before having to re-sign him, which is definitely doable. With Lillard, Parker and Kanter they'd definitely have the makings of a future contender. But of course, Sacramento might want to keep Lillard as the core of their rebuild. I dunno, the Kings are in a tough place any way you look at it. I agree with you, Alex. It's just a tough position to be in. I think that Erving wants to keep Lillard because he can definitely re-sign him given the fact that Portland was able to re-sign him even though they lost 4 members of their starting lineup. They won't definitely contend for the following years but Lillard wasn't bothered by it |
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jul 19, 2015 14:02:18 GMT
No way this is approved. This is not good for either team. I am conflicted but I think this might be the ticket when it all boils down. |
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Post by Ghazny Dimalen on Jul 19, 2015 14:51:43 GMT
This off season transactions and free agency is going crazy.
But i feel you brother julius, dont wait the time that your player will betray you just like greg monroe did to us..
I think we should be more practical than emotional in this game,no strings attach.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jul 19, 2015 15:15:56 GMT
NONONONONONONONONONO WAY THIS GETS APPROVED. I leave for two days and you guys start pulling this retarded shit. At least give him a real freaking prospect like Exum or Embiid. No way this should be approved.
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jul 19, 2015 15:23:54 GMT
I just think for this trade to happen Ian has to give up a legit prospect. None of the guys he is giving up are really top notch prospects, just okay ones.
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Post by Magic Johnson on Jul 19, 2015 15:25:49 GMT
NONONONONONONONONONO WAY THIS GETS APPROVED. I leave for two days and you guys start pulling this retarded shit. At least give him a real freaking prospect like Exum or Embiid. No way this should be approved. parker or exum, embiid is made of glass so that would be worse. |
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Post by Ghazny Dimalen on Jul 19, 2015 15:36:41 GMT
NONONONONONONONONONO WAY THIS GETS APPROVED. I leave for two days and you guys start pulling this retarded shit. At least give him a real freaking prospect like Exum or Embiid. No way this should be approved. i agree ian should give a real prospect for this trade.westbrook is one the elite point guard and he deserve a good quality prospects included picks and etc. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 19, 2015 15:59:40 GMT
I agree I think Ian should have to give up a top notch prospect to, but it should be a three team trade and the prospect should go to me for cash consideration.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jul 19, 2015 17:36:53 GMT
Also, how stupid does Brian look when he could have gotten a guy like Westbrook for what he traded way instead of Drummond.
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Post by Charles Barkley on Jul 19, 2015 18:19:26 GMT
I think this trade is hilarious.
Of all the people on the Kings, why trade away Westbrook and not Lillard?
If you plan to run the tank route, Lillard will get you more in a trade because of his contract.
You have BRs on Westbrook, he is on a one year contract, no amount of prospects you get in return will be worth Westbrook.
How can we let a new GM come into the league and just trade away his star player? I don't think that we should allow this just based on that fact alone. Imagine if Kevin came in and traded away Durant, or someone came in for Glenn and traded away Anthony Davis.
Westbrook is one of the top 8 players in this league. I don't see how in the world we allow this to happen. It isn't just bad for the teams involved, it is bad for the league.
Not to mention, the value the Kings get is just laughable. The prospects are basically shit, but the picks are important. The Kings should get better prospects in return to go along with their pick. It is Russell Westbrook for Christ's sake.
I don't see how this trade passes.
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jul 20, 2015 0:10:38 GMT
Im on the other side of the fence. Boston is the loser in this trade but to be honest, if you see all angles, it is fair.
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