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Post by Ian Noble on Jul 17, 2015 11:46:09 GMT
 New Orleans Pelicans - Marcus ThorntonMarcus Thornton signs with the Pelicans. Year 1: $3,000,000 Year 2: $3,000,000 TO Total: $6,000,000 |
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Jul 17, 2015 12:11:08 GMT
Welcome Marcus!
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Jul 17, 2015 12:11:29 GMT
We use part of our mle for this FYI
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jul 17, 2015 13:05:06 GMT
We use part of our mle for this FYI I know Brian wasn't over the cap to start the offseason. Does he really get MLE Ian Noble? Plus Brian, you are still offering a 7 million dollar contract on one of my clients. How do you offer that if you're already using your "MLE" here? I'm confused on multiple fronts |
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Jul 17, 2015 14:04:50 GMT
I was under impression we had mle no matter our cap situation but maybe I'm confused
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Post by Clyde Drexler on Jul 17, 2015 14:08:07 GMT
We use part of our mle for this FYI I know Brian wasn't over the cap to start the offseason. Does he really get MLE Ian Noble? Plus Brian, you are still offering a 7 million dollar contract on one of my clients. How do you offer that if you're already using your "MLE" here? I'm confused on multiple fronts Would like to know this as well. Would love to be able to throw some MLE money around. |
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jul 17, 2015 14:16:09 GMT
I mean, if everyone gets the MLE, Ian Noble, then you may as well raise the cap to 75 million instead of 70 million. Because if everyone gets the MLE, no one gets the MLE. |
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jul 17, 2015 14:21:32 GMT
Just looked at Brian's salaries and he's not using MLE for this b/c he's only at 61 million even after this signing but I would like to get the MLE situation cleared up and figured out.
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Post by JR Wiles on Jul 17, 2015 14:28:44 GMT
I mean, if everyone gets the MLE, Ian Noble, then you may as well raise the cap to 75 million instead of 70 million. Because if everyone gets the MLE, no one gets the MLE. There needs to be a date to go buy. Whatever the cap for the team at that point, is what we go by. It can't be or shouldn't be the end of the season. That give non playoff teams time to make moves. I would say a date before the season starts. Yes it makes it so gms must wait to sign guys using their MLE, but it also gives teams a fair amt of time to get under the cap. And keep it to where only teams over the cap by so much, or teams under the cap within a certain amt...can use it. Not all gms can make their cap be within the range to get the MLE. Or at least have an exception for two groups, but those way way over the cap... Should not...I repeat should not be given the cap. Those teams way under... Won't need it. And once it's noted who has what exception... A team gets the exception.. Even if their cap changes for whatever reasons. My opinion.. |
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jul 17, 2015 14:37:37 GMT
I mean, if everyone gets the MLE, Ian Noble, then you may as well raise the cap to 75 million instead of 70 million. Because if everyone gets the MLE, no one gets the MLE. There needs to be a date to go buy. Whatever the cap for the team at that point, is what we go by. It can't be or shouldn't be the end of the season. That give non playoff teams time to make moves. I would say a date before the season starts. Yes it makes it so gms must wait to sign guys using their MLE, but it also gives teams a fair amt of time to get under the cap. And keep it to where only teams over the cap by so much, or teams under the cap within a certain amt...can use it. Not all gms can make their cap be within the range to get the MLE. Or at least have an exception for two groups, but those way way over the cap... Should not...I repeat should not be given the cap. Those teams way under... Won't need it. And once it's noted who has what exception... A team gets the exception.. Even if their cap changes for whatever reasons. My opinion.. I agree this needs to be figured out and a date needs to be given. It NEEDS to be before the Off-Season Free Agency begins though. Should really just be the same day that OSFA opens, that's when the MLE becomes available to teams over the cap at that time. You get the 5 million MLE. I could agree, if you are, say, "150%" over the cap, you do not get the MLE. And, if you are w/in $4,999,999 or less under the cap, you also get the full MLE. I really don't see why anyone else would get the MLE. Maybe half the MLE (basically what the Room exception amounts to, though for a different reason?) |
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jul 17, 2015 14:39:14 GMT
Ian - I hate to keep tagging you everywhere, truly, I'm sorry. But there is more MLE talk going on over here I think you should be aware of.
Thanks!
EDIT: just untagged Ian b/c I didn't realize I had already tagged him in this thread!
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jul 17, 2015 14:45:11 GMT
I really don't see why anyone else would get the MLE. Maybe half the MLE (basically what the Room exception amounts to, though for a different reason?) Maybe if you are w/in $7,500,000 or $10,000,000 under the cap you could get the mini-MLE? I don't see why someone who might start the season with 40 million in cap (which we had multiple teams do this offseason) would get an exception to go over the cap, but maybe the NBA is doing something like this and I'm reading their rules incorrectly. |
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Post by Ian Noble on Jul 17, 2015 14:48:08 GMT
Brian doesn't even need to use the MLE so he definitely doesn't get it for this signing.
Just like the Nets when they signed Ben Gordon, the Pelicans are not allowed to use the MLE this off season.
So in the end this deal still goes through, just not as MLE money.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 14:49:46 GMT
Just looked at Brian's salaries and he's not using MLE for this b/c he's only at 61 million even after this signing but I would like to get the MLE situation cleared up and figured out. No, it's different because a team 6M under the cap can't sign a player for 11M a year. The MLE lets you sign a mid level player at max of 9,999,999. |
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Post by JR Wiles on Jul 17, 2015 14:55:49 GMT
Just looked at Brian's salaries and he's not using MLE for this b/c he's only at 61 million even after this signing but I would like to get the MLE situation cleared up and figured out. No, it's different because a team 6M under the cap can't sign a player for 11M a year. The MLE lets you sign a mid level player at max of 9,999,999. Also we need to clear up if the MLE can be used by itself or if it may be added to current cap to sign a player. Your avail cap+MLE. I know you can use your MLE money on multiple players if you like...that's understood. Lets just clarify it all if we can. Thanks |
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jul 17, 2015 15:01:06 GMT
Just looked at Brian's salaries and he's not using MLE for this b/c he's only at 61 million even after this signing but I would like to get the MLE situation cleared up and figured out. No, it's different because a team 6M under the cap can't sign a player for 11M a year. The MLE lets you sign a mid level player at max of 9,999,999. Yea but a team over the cap can't sign a player for 11M a year either. They only get 5M. Your hypothetical team with 6M in cap space already has more money than teams over the cap have to use. If you want to have room to sign someone for 11M a year, make sure you have 11M in cap space. Thus why I did things like clearing out Batum for Carroll this offseason to make sure I had cap to sign Bledsoe. |
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