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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2015 13:07:55 GMT
I approached Commissioner Noble with an attempt to compromise: He responded: Now I am not upset with anything he said here, I disagree with #2 but I understand where he's coming from. With that said, however, he insulted me big time after that (see attached.) Hopefully, Commissioner Noble will apologize for his insensitive actions but lucky I do not hold grudges.
Now here is my response to Commissioner Noble: "Let's get past name calling and work toward hope and change that all GMs at D5 can believe in! Also, Mr. Noble, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL of oppression between GMs and the TC!" Attachments:
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jul 10, 2015 13:23:12 GMT
Let me say this first to you Vlade, You need some sleep man. I know you are frustrated and all but please do not act like you are the most important player in this game and ask for the expulsion of other players. Your attack of Glenn is understandable but your accusations and attack of Alex is getting over the line because you are not grounding it in any facts or evidences just pure speculations and HATRED!
To everyone. The Life of this League is being carried by each one of us. So now all of us should stop this personal attacks and blah blah blah blahs, those things are acts of IMMATURE PEOPLE. Instead, WE SHOULD ANALYZE THE SITUATION AND DISCUSS A SOLUTION.
But I think for a discussion to begun, I will agree with Vlade that if their is wall, it should be tear down first.
Thank you. I love you all.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jul 10, 2015 13:26:30 GMT
At this point I say boot vlade before people all get butt hurt and quit and we have to deal with BS reddit recruits next fall.
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Kevin Hollis
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jul 10, 2015 13:33:36 GMT
Vlade, I will agree with Ian on one thing. You were acting like you lost Gasol even before the free agency started. My whole problem is that the signing of Gasol shouldn't have happened immediately. It was easy to see that you rescinded your offer out of emotions and Gasol immediately signed with the Bucks. I think Alex should have taken a step back and analyzed the situation. I think everyone should have been made aware of the situation and gone from there.
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jul 10, 2015 13:43:02 GMT
By the way Vlade, kindly finish this offseason first before you leave. For the sake of the league and for the GM that will takeover.
or much better, just do not leave.
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Post by James Kay on Jul 10, 2015 13:45:27 GMT
This is so stupid. This is not worth all this, Vlade. You made this trade where you declared yourself tanking and many people voiced the opinion that it would not be a good look for Gasol. dynasty5ive.proboards.com/thread/5491/celtics-kings?page=3&scrollTo=42178You just finished a tanking season, Westbrook, Lillard, and the corpse of Nene are the only people on your roster. Maybe Gasol should have returned, but it is at the very least, REASONABLE, that Gasol would want to leave that shell of a team. You have THREE players signed to your team Vlade. That’s not a team. Maybe there is an “ol boys club” in d5, but this is the worst excuse to try and make a huge stink about it, and I think anyone who is rallying around Vlade is pretty much slapping Ian in the face. Because I don’t know how anyone could accuse Ian of cheating. He runs the shit out of this league with a lot of time and effort and he is a rebuilding team just like a lot of you. He lost out on Bledsoe just like you guys did. And he has had terrible luck in the draft lottery. I cant see how Ian would be cheating. Maybe the PA and TC system aren’t perfect but this is such a stupid reason to blow this up to this level. I just don’t want GMs to leave the league.
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Post by Glenn Robinson on Jul 10, 2015 13:57:59 GMT
First of all,
"but lucky I do not hold grudges."
Really, Vlade?
Second. PEOPLE I MADE A MISTAKE! Guess what? We all fuck up! 3 years ago I used my leverage as a player agent when negotiating with Vlade. He went along with it and then told Ian. Ian therefore took me off the committee and as a player agent and I took the punishment. JR wants to tie this in with the Tim Duncan thing or say everything I've done is a lie. Since I made the mistake and took the demotion and I've upheld the rules of this league and haven't done anything since then to upset anyone or do anything perceived as "shady". Because Vlade lost out on Gasol, he then decided to go public with my mistake to further embarrass and "get back" at me. Shit happens. I wish everyday I could go back and take back what I did. But that doesn't make me a cheater till the end of my life. I've learned and moved on and nothing has happened for those 3 years until recently.
Third. If this Gasol signing is going to really get people that up in arms, then I have no problem withdrawing my offer to Gasol and letting him go back into free agency where people can bid on him again. I want this league to be healthy and move forward in a positive way. I've had a gang of members attack me and call me out because of this infraction 3 years ago. I've put it past me a long time ago only to face this shit again. So if it makes everyone happy, I'll gladly let Gasol go back into free agency.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 10, 2015 14:04:15 GMT
Third. If this Gasol signing is going to really get people that up in arms, then I have no problem withdrawing my offer to Gasol and letting him go back into free agency where people can bid on him again. I want this league to be healthy and move forward in a positive way. I've had a gang of members attack me and call me out because of this infraction 3 years ago. I've put it past me a long time ago only to face this shit again. So if it makes everyone happy, I'll gladly let Gasol go back into free agency.
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Post by Vlade on Jul 10, 2015 21:48:30 GMT
I really wish I could still defend myself because I've been slandered and taken out of context. I am going to address a few but I don't want Ian deleting my contact post, so I am going to be very nice.
#1: My mental health is great and thank you for asking. I would do what I did again in a heart beat and have no regrets. Honestly, I don't even know why Ian banned me.
#2: I don't know if Alex cheated or not but it looks highly suspicious to me. Everyone is free to make their own judgment but I felt like he would sign elsewhere the entire time...sort of like there was a boogy man in the closest.
#3 (and it ties in to #2): I didn't mean to start a revolution. Rather, I really wanted to attack the BR rule. The power teams will stay the same unless you build from the draft because the PA will prevent a team like mine from acquiring the BRs on good players. Therefore, it's not really about Marc Gasol but his BRs.
#4: I actually thought of a pretty good compromise at work today and maybe its something you guys should think about in the future.
- Add 2 members to the TC (taking it from 5 to 7.) Then use those two members to do the following:
- 5 of the player agents act as the primary agent and let the other two "float" around and see if they can find any flaws with the primary player agent's logic (Ian would probably be one of the floaters.)
- Also, I think utilizing someone like Sam Bowie, a person that is as impartial as possible, would help the process as well.
#5: Ian, please delete my account if you are going to ban me. You "disabled it" and I either want access to it or want it gone. If you don't comply I will take action.
#6: I am going to miss you guys but I would rather not be a GM than uphold that fucking stupid rule. I actually thought about asking to be an assistant GM before my banning but meh whatever.
#7: I am not going to be like Billy and will take my punishment like a man. If anyone wants to contact me, cool. If not, then good bye forever.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2015 3:41:34 GMT
I really wish I could still defend myself because I've been slandered and taken out of context. I am going to address a few but I don't want Ian deleting my contact post, so I am going to be very nice. #7: I am not going to be like Billy and will take my punishment like a man. If anyone wants to contact me, cool. If not, then good bye forever. Interesting Ian told me BK left of his own accord...
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