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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2012 19:02:33 GMT
Thunder Get: C DeMarcus Cousins 82 $3,627,720 $3,880,800 $4,916,974(TO) $6,519,907 SG Terrence Williams 74 $261,829/1
Total: $3,889,549
Kings Get: PF Serge Ibaka 80 $1,246,680/$2,180,443/$3,187,808 PG Sundiata Gaines 68 $884,293/1 PG Royal Ivey 65 $1,200,000/1 2012 1st (Raptors) 2013 1st (Hornets)
Total: $3,330,973
EDITED to fix the font: 7/24/14 @ 9:46 CST.
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JJ Savage
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Post by JJ Savage on Jun 3, 2012 19:08:59 GMT
As much as it pains me to deal Ibaka, especially after last nights show he put on. I accept this deal. Why? I get the young big man the Thunder desperately need. Not to mention, i still have Perkins. So, Cousins will be moving to PF, and Perkins will remain the center for the OKC Thunder. I also get a very underrated Terrence Williams in this deal. I think both teams win this deal, I get my big man to make my team elite, and he gets a young PF and picks to go with it so he can rebuild.
I accept.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2012 19:11:45 GMT
I know some people are going to call me crazy again on this deal, but I really like it. Not only do I get two draft picks I think will be good moving forward, particularly New Orlean's next year, but I also get get the "Big Fundamental", as I was telling Spurs fans last night , in Serge Ibaka. Ibaka showed last night he has untapped potential at 22 years old, but even if he doesn't improve he is a better Ben Wallace with a jump shot. I've never seen a guy that can block shots like him, and that will keep the fans energized during the rebuilding process. He also allows Brooks, Thornton, and Williams to shoot the ball more, as he usually just plays defense and rebounds. Both those picks could be very good, even Toronto's; as I am not 100% sold Toronto is a contender. This trade also influenced my decision to make the other trade with Brooklyn, as I am now a rebuilding team and possess 10 picks (6 in the 1st and 4 in the 2nd) over the next three years. I know some people really like Cousins, but I think this was a very good deal that will help the Kings improve moving forward. Those picks give me value, and I really really like Ibaka. Nice trading with OKC and hopefully Cousins will give you the post presence you need. Best of luck to you on your playoff run!
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Post by Rubén Magnano on Jun 3, 2012 19:15:48 GMT
I know some people are going to call me crazy again on this deal, but I really like it. This is not a bad deal at all I think. I can only wonder if Thunder got better or worse after the 3 big moves he made.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jun 3, 2012 19:37:53 GMT
Cousins probably has a bigger potential than Ibaka, and Terrence is a pretty nice player, thus the picks aren't too crazy for this deal.
I really think this makes sense to the Thunder, Ibaka/Perkins, currently, are kinda both more Centers...Cousins has a face-up game and likes to play away from the basket.
It will be interesting to see how this one works out.
I accept.
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Post by JJ Savage on Jun 3, 2012 20:15:32 GMT
My teams better now. Elite big men never come around, cousins is a scoring big man with tons of potential.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 3, 2012 20:49:36 GMT
I know some people are going to call me crazy again on this deal, but I really like it. This is not a bad deal at all I think. I can only wonder if Thunder got better or worse after the 3 big moves he made. I wasn't directing that at you, but way to be defense! I think OKC needs to trade Perkins and probably DeRozan for a PF, his pick and role defense is going to be crap, but each to their own I guess.
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Post by Isiah Thomas on Jun 4, 2012 5:41:28 GMT
I Accept
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Jun 4, 2012 23:39:26 GMT
Accept, although trading that Hornets 1st is going to come back to bite OKC
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Post by JJ Savage on Jun 5, 2012 0:37:09 GMT
Well see. My teams young, I don't expect mediocre play
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jun 5, 2012 1:23:57 GMT
It's not your pick, it is NOH's...doesn't matter how your team does.
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Post by Aubrey Graham on Jun 5, 2012 1:57:29 GMT
I accept
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Post by JJ Savage on Jun 5, 2012 15:24:35 GMT
I understand who's pick it is. I'm not stupid. My teams young, were gonna win now. Not to mention, we're young as it is. All you haters will just wait and see how good the thunder will become
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jun 5, 2012 16:32:36 GMT
Sorry man, sure looked like you were responding to Indy saying that trading NOH's 1st would bite you in the ass when you said "we'll see, my team's young, I don't expect mediocre play."
Sorry for the misunderstanding, no one called you stupid.
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Post by JJ Savage on Jun 5, 2012 19:46:23 GMT
I know, it's all good man. I'm just sayin. When I'm In a win now situation, you take the skill over the future picks. Cousins is only 22 and has a lot of growing to do. I think the deal will help my team greatly.
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Post by JJ Savage on Jun 7, 2012 14:33:12 GMT
So is this trade accepted?
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Post by Ian Noble on Jun 7, 2012 19:09:37 GMT
Wow, okay. I accept this deal also. I kinda like it because I can see a deal like this happening in real life... somehow.
Trade passed.
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Post by Ian Noble on Jun 7, 2012 19:12:30 GMT
Sacramento need to release a player for this deal to go through.
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Post by JJ Savage on Jun 7, 2012 19:38:44 GMT
Ian, I apologize if I sounded like a jerk asking if this was accepted, didn't mean to come off that way if I did. I was just curious. My apologies
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2012 1:51:14 GMT
Done
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Post by Rubén Magnano on Jun 9, 2012 3:20:50 GMT
All you haters will just wait and see how good the thunder will become. I see no hater in this thread, lol. Maybe, all these moves work out for your team but it is not like you are fixing a broken house. In real life, Thunder's potential is limitless. I think it is healthy to wonder if Williams, DeRozan and Cousins it is better than Westbrook, Harden and Ibaka. Sure, Cousins is better stats-wise than Ibaka but Cousins play for a losing team and Ibaka is a glue player perfect for a winning team (awesome defensive role player with good shooting %s).
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Post by Ian Noble on Jun 9, 2012 11:42:05 GMT
Ian, I apologize if I sounded like a jerk asking if this was accepted, didn't mean to come off that way if I did. I was just curious. My apologies Hehe no probs mate, I only "wow'd" because I think the trade is quite high profile with Ibaka and Cousins etc.
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Post by Ian Noble on Jun 9, 2012 11:43:47 GMT
Trade passed.
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Post by James Kay on Jan 30, 2024 17:24:51 GMT
Accept, although trading that Hornets 1st is going to come back to bite OKC #3 in 2013 that TOR pick, #2 in 2012
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