Post by Jeremiah Hill on Apr 21, 2015 22:22:32 GMT
Ok guys I've noticed a lot of arguements on the stock watch and I'm just going to go over a few things that I've noticed in regards to player ratings and how people are going about them.
Timing of increases and decreases:
Just because someone throws up stats for a few months doesn't mean they are amazing. I'm going to use Hasan Whiteside for a second because he seems to be the hot topic of these arguements lately. HW was up until this season a 59 overall. And basically a total unknown. He put up some pretty impressive stats in his time since he was given some minutes. When a player does this completely out of nowhere we have to figure out why that happened. When a player has a breakout season they basically just prove that they aren't terrible. It's what Khris Middleton did this year, what Jeremy Lin did a few years ago. Those are just a few recent and well known examples but it happens with many players each year to varying degrees.
If we rated every breakout player based off their few break out months Jeremy Lin would be a 90. Obviously he's NBA caliber instead of random minimum contract dude like people thought. But he's clearly not a superstar.
Its the same reason we don't allow a few months of below par play to overly effect a player rating. For example Kobe floated at an above 90 rating due to his being injured.
When a player gets overrated on the first rating increase it gets difficult to try and get the player a new increase when they actually improve. Now that ratings are being implemented relatively quickly due to the tremendously successful implementation of the trading committee getting a super high rating the first time isn't so important.
What to consider when rating a player?:
Obviously the box scores are the first place to start. However we all know there are players with basically equal stats that are vastly different in terms of actual talent level. Two players I'm going to use as an example are Michael Carter Williams and Andrew Wiggins. Would anyone in this league prefer to have MCW over Wiggins? MCW was a rookie of the year who threw up some boss stats (winning a few fantasy leagues I'm betting) and also led a team to the bottom of the worst conference. Wiggins is also the rookie of the year on a pretty bad team.
What makes Wiggins better than MCW?
Timing of increases and decreases:
Just because someone throws up stats for a few months doesn't mean they are amazing. I'm going to use Hasan Whiteside for a second because he seems to be the hot topic of these arguements lately. HW was up until this season a 59 overall. And basically a total unknown. He put up some pretty impressive stats in his time since he was given some minutes. When a player does this completely out of nowhere we have to figure out why that happened. When a player has a breakout season they basically just prove that they aren't terrible. It's what Khris Middleton did this year, what Jeremy Lin did a few years ago. Those are just a few recent and well known examples but it happens with many players each year to varying degrees.
If we rated every breakout player based off their few break out months Jeremy Lin would be a 90. Obviously he's NBA caliber instead of random minimum contract dude like people thought. But he's clearly not a superstar.
Its the same reason we don't allow a few months of below par play to overly effect a player rating. For example Kobe floated at an above 90 rating due to his being injured.
When a player gets overrated on the first rating increase it gets difficult to try and get the player a new increase when they actually improve. Now that ratings are being implemented relatively quickly due to the tremendously successful implementation of the trading committee getting a super high rating the first time isn't so important.
What to consider when rating a player?:
Obviously the box scores are the first place to start. However we all know there are players with basically equal stats that are vastly different in terms of actual talent level. Two players I'm going to use as an example are Michael Carter Williams and Andrew Wiggins. Would anyone in this league prefer to have MCW over Wiggins? MCW was a rookie of the year who threw up some boss stats (winning a few fantasy leagues I'm betting) and also led a team to the bottom of the worst conference. Wiggins is also the rookie of the year on a pretty bad team.
What makes Wiggins better than MCW?