Larry Bird
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Post by Larry Bird on Mar 11, 2015 17:38:11 GMT
Brooklyn Trades: 81 Andrew Bogut $11,324,021 $11,849,023 $12,453,234 $12,932,403 $13,432,003 $11,324,021
Indiana Trades: 80 David West $10,500,000 $11,655,000 $12,937,050 $14,360,125 Jamaal Tinsley $980,360 Greg Oden $507,336 Ronny Turiaf $980,360 $12,968,056
Toronto Trades: 75 DeMarre Carroll $490,180 $490,180 $490,180 78 Amir Johnson $7,050,000 OKC - 2nd 2016 IND - 2nd 2018 $9,425,225
Brooklyn Receives: 78 Amir Johnson $7,050,000 Jamaal Tinsley $980,360 Greg Oden $507,336 Ronny Turiaf $980,360 OKC - 2nd 2016 IND - 2nd 2018 $9,518,086
Indiana Receives: 81 Andrew Bogut $11,324,021 $11,849,023 $12,453,234 $12,932,403 $13,432,003 75 DeMarre Carroll $490,180 $490,180 $490,180 $11,814,201
Toronto Receives: 80 David West $10,500,000 $11,655,000 $12,937,050 $14,360,125 $10,500,000
I accept. I trade David West, a power forward, and get back a defensive SF, Carroll, and a true center, Bogut. David West has been the heart of the Pacers for a long time. I hate to send him on his way, but I need a center, and get one in Bogut as well as a great hustle and defensive guy in Carroll.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Mar 11, 2015 17:43:21 GMT
Not that they will really change the deal that much but, why are those 2nds in there? Barber gives the long contract on a player most people probably like less overall than Amir (factoring contract and injury history)...but he gets the better/younger/better contract guy AND gets picks.
Similar to Barber questioning the need for a 2nd in that Utah/Orlando trade. I'm not saying it's rejectable but doesn't make sense. Toronto shouldn't have to give more than Carroll/Amir for David West either.
Anyway...not enough there to reject
Accept
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Post by Sam Bowie on Mar 11, 2015 17:45:48 GMT
Absolutely horrible deal for Raptors. In real life Carroll is as good as West but he is younger and his contract is like 20 times better. Trading Johnson and the 2 2nds doesn´t help either.
The way I see it, Amir Johnson alone should have more value than West because of the contracts involved. Those 2 players options for the last 2 years of West´s contract look scary.
Real life contract: $12,000,000 $12,600,000 (PO) Sim Contract: $10,500,000 $11,655,000 $12,937,050 (PO) $14,360,125 (PO)
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Post by Bryan Colangelo on Mar 11, 2015 17:49:27 GMT
eh i didnt mind giving up a bit more than i had to. It's really Carrol and 2 2nds for David West. Amir was a salary throw in sadly, but i needed a PF badly and the market for PF is very slim this off season.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2015 17:54:54 GMT
Not that they will really change the deal that much but, why are those 2nds in there? Barber gives the long contract on a player most people probably like less overall than Amir (factoring contract and injury history)...but he gets the better/younger/better contract guy AND gets picks. Similar to Barber questioning the need for a 2nd in that Utah/Orlando trade. I'm not saying it's rejectable but doesn't make sense. Toronto shouldn't have to give more than Carroll/Amir for David West either. Anyway...not enough there to reject Accept Indy-West is better than Bogut. At least you get a young guy in Carroll. At least you didn't give up picks. And Bogut is a true C. Hopefully he gives you similar numbers because Carroll won't help much now. Your team aer your last few trades moved up quick in the East. I hope it works out for you bro. Barber-- Tried to get Nene for Bogut. Never. And I knew he would find someone to take Bogut. I figured he would try Detroit. But once again he makes a steal with picks for nothing. Even more so for a C that is about finished. Toronto- Not sure why you wanted west but your smart and make good moves. I'm sure you have a plan. Guess you had so many picks you didn't care to give them up. I'll take some. Trades fair except that Indy should have kept West.
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Post by Sam Bowie on Mar 11, 2015 18:01:31 GMT
Toronto- Not sure why you wanted west but your smart and make good moves. I'm sure you have a plan. Guess you had so many picks you didn't care to give them up. I'll take some. Yes, he is planning to pay Hibbert and West combined $29,389,172 (2016/17) and $30,812,247 (2017/18) in 2 seasons from now.
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Post by Bryan Colangelo on Mar 11, 2015 18:48:36 GMT
lol Sam, why dont you worry about your team and not mine.
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Post by Sam Bowie on Mar 11, 2015 18:54:29 GMT
lol Sam, why dont you worry about your team and not mine. Because I don´t have one. Sorry, It was not my intention to tell you what to do. I just think Johnson alone has more value than West.
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Post by Allen Iverson on Mar 11, 2015 19:24:28 GMT
Gonna be a tough road for the Atlantic Division Title I guess..
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Mar 11, 2015 20:19:23 GMT
Sorry guys, I'm going to reject lol. I didn't realize I was involved in a three-way that makes Toronto better
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Post by Bryan Colangelo on Mar 11, 2015 20:30:59 GMT
Sorry guys, I'm going to reject lol. I didn't realize I was involved in a three-way that makes Toronto better -_____-
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Post by Larry Bird on Mar 11, 2015 20:31:59 GMT
Well. I guess our trade will need to be nullified.
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Post by Larry Bird on May 12, 2015 18:55:07 GMT
Thank goodness this was denied. David West is the 2nd best player on my team. Not a great team, but a solid one in the least.
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