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Post by Shaquille O'Neal on Mar 10, 2015 19:29:44 GMT
this guy will be the defensive player of the year this year and helped the Warriors win so many games, He is now becoming part of a new big 3 with Curry and Thompson in the back court.
Current rating: 79
Suggested rating: 82 before you tell its a bit high i will list down some 82 rated players.
Tyson Chandler Gordon Hayward Kawhi Leonard
i really think he is better than all of them right now, also i don't have any hidden agenda in case someone (spurs GM) might react on this.
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Post by Larry Bird on Mar 10, 2015 19:36:30 GMT
I agree with Miami.
I am not sure where I would rate him, but it would be above an 80.
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Post by James Kay on Mar 10, 2015 20:10:03 GMT
just my personal opinion, but I feel that this league and its members at large don’t give enough credit to defense and intrinsic ability, weighing to heavily on box score numbers. Big dick dray is one of those all-around super solid players and a great defensive presence. I’d definitely agree with 82, although I would disagree that he is better than kawhi, for what its worth.
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Post by Charles Barkley on Mar 10, 2015 22:03:32 GMT
I think there needs to be a limit as to how many times a player can be increased in a season, and I think that limit should be 2. If you figure the guy gets bumped just as the season starts (as in we do the change in the off-season, which is technically the new league year) and then again around the All-Star break in our league.
That being said, I agree that Draymond needs another increase. Since acquiring him, I have been paying more attention to him in the GSW games that I watch. And I think an 82 is where I would put him.
To Troy and James, I don't like comparing ratings to other players because no one player is EXACTLY the same. I think Tyson Chandler, Kawhi, and Hayward are bad comps in this case, but I understand that it is more about the rating comparison than the play style. I'd say Green is better than both Tyson and Hayward, but I am skeptical as to how good he really is considering the team he plays for.
I know I say that a lot, the whole "system" thing, but some guys are better in some systems than others, that doesn't mean I won't give credit where it is due though. And in this case, Big Dick Dray, as James put it, deserves another boost.
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Mar 10, 2015 23:45:06 GMT
I agree with Charles that the limit should be 2.
I really think this thread is one month early..
But I also agree that he deserves an increase too.
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Mar 11, 2015 0:15:01 GMT
82 seems fair
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Post by Walt Frazier on Mar 11, 2015 1:18:43 GMT
I voted 81 a month or two ago, and stated I thought he was performing better than that but was being cautious.
I'm going 84 this time around, but I'm a guy who believes in Defense and these all-around players pretty heavily, so I know I'll probably be one of the top ratings if not the top.
11.6p / 8.3r / 3.6a / 1.6s / 1.4b
His 43.8% FG is up from 40.7% last year and up from 32.7% his rookie season.
His 34.5% 3PT is up from 33.3% last year and 20.9% Rookie season (also taking over twice the attempts this season, and still increased his %)
FT% is weak at 66.2%...he was at 66.7% last year so that may just be what he is...at least it's not a killer like a Dwight or DeAndre, it's just below average.
Also only 1.6 TO's so that's a solid Ast/TO for a PF.
Anyway, the studly Defense along with an incredible all-around game and improving, solid %'s is just awesome.
84
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Post by Shane Battier on Mar 11, 2015 10:58:34 GMT
Cool story, Troy. 82 as well for me
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2015 13:15:02 GMT
81
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Mar 11, 2015 13:31:07 GMT
80
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Mar 11, 2015 16:21:07 GMT
Player 1: 12 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 1.5 apg, 0.2 bpg, 1.3 spg, 47.2% fg, 39.7% threes - 15th pace team in the league
Green: 11.6 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 3.6 apg, 1.4 bpg, 1.6 spg, 43.8% fg, 34.5% threes - highest pace team in the league
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Mar 11, 2015 16:22:34 GMT
^ also I vote to keep Green at 79. Let's see how he does next year on a different team
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Mar 11, 2015 16:31:57 GMT
Player 1: 12 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 1.5 apg, 0.2 bpg, 1.3 spg, 47.2% fg, 39.7% threes - 15th pace team in the league Green: 11.6 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 3.6 apg, 1.4 bpg, 1.6 spg, 43.8% fg, 34.5% threes - highest pace team in the league What about defense?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2015 16:33:13 GMT
^ also I vote to keep Green at 79. Let's see how he does next year on a different team I agree.
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Mar 11, 2015 16:48:37 GMT
Player 1: 12 ppg, 5.1 rpg, 1.5 apg, 0.2 bpg, 1.3 spg, 47.2% fg, 39.7% threes - 15th pace team in the league Green: 11.6 ppg, 8.3 rpg, 3.6 apg, 1.4 bpg, 1.6 spg, 43.8% fg, 34.5% threes - highest pace team in the league What about defense? Both players known as excellent defenders
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Mar 11, 2015 17:36:25 GMT
Both players known as excellent defenders But dray might be dpoy
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2015 17:44:29 GMT
Both players known as excellent defenders But dray might be dpoy "Might!" Or AD or TD
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Apr 20, 2015 0:24:41 GMT
82
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Apr 20, 2015 5:26:09 GMT
The dude is the 4th option on a team with the MVP he plays alright defense but if you put him on the Jazz the team would suck just as bad. 80.
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