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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2015 22:53:46 GMT
I for one personally feel the player agents, CMs, ratings committee should be rotated within the league to preserve fairness and honesty. We should have like a one year contract and then changes. Of course not all gms may be interested but it's unfair to those that deserve the opportunity. Doing this makes it so GMs Can feel the league is that much more secure and safe. Changes are always made IRL. No reason one GM should be on every committee the entire life of the league.
Keep it honest!
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Mar 2, 2015 23:13:57 GMT
terrible idea
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2015 23:16:49 GMT
I dont know about all committees being rotated but I dont see why player agents shouldnt be rotated.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2015 23:19:36 GMT
Why is it such a bad idea?
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Post by Walt Frazier on Mar 2, 2015 23:53:48 GMT
I for one personally feel the player agents, CMs, ratings committee should be rotated within the league to preserve fairness and honesty. We should have like a one year contract and then changes. Of course not all gms may be interested but it's unfair to those that deserve the opportunity. Doing this makes it so GMs Can feel the league is that much more secure and safe. Changes are always made IRL. No reason one GM should be on every committee the entire life of the league. Keep it honest! Who don't you trust JR? Who hurt you?
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Mar 3, 2015 0:22:46 GMT
I agree on a bit of it, but not all. First, guys like Walt and Alex should keep there jobs forever unless they become so ill or they become crazy. hehe But maybe the others can be change.. Other than the reason of JR, another good reason for doing so is that by having responsibilities, the other GM will be more attached to the game, will be more active I guess and they will understand the game better. And, lastly, I think some of the current board members will want to have a rest too
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Mar 3, 2015 0:25:39 GMT
I agree, let's kick Walt off
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Post by Chris Mullin on Mar 3, 2015 1:02:41 GMT
I don't see any reason to make any changes. I think we're very fortunate to have a couple guys that are willing to sacrifice their own time to help keep the league running as smoothly as possible and I see no reason why that should change unless one of them no longer wants to do a particular job. All of the player agents and trade committee members do a good job.
Don't get bored with success, if it aint broke, don't fix it.
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Post by Sam Bowie on Mar 3, 2015 1:16:11 GMT
Don't get bored with success, if it aint broke, don't fix it. That is a good advice. I could think of an example but there is no point in mentioning it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 5:06:33 GMT
I don't see any reason to make any changes. I think we're very fortunate to have a couple guys that are willing to sacrifice their own time to help keep the league running as smoothly as possible and I see no reason why that should change unless one of them no longer wants to do a particular job. All of the player agents and trade committee members do a good job. Don't get bored with success, if it aint broke, don't fix it. Our player agent system isn't very good.
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Post by Chris Mullin on Mar 3, 2015 5:10:18 GMT
I don't see any reason to make any changes. I think we're very fortunate to have a couple guys that are willing to sacrifice their own time to help keep the league running as smoothly as possible and I see no reason why that should change unless one of them no longer wants to do a particular job. All of the player agents and trade committee members do a good job. Don't get bored with success, if it aint broke, don't fix it. Our player agent system isn't very good. Why do you think it isn't very good? And what do you propose as a solution?
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 12:30:43 GMT
Our player agent system isn't very good. Why do you think it isn't very good? And what do you propose as a solution? well it isnt very good because people with stakes in the fight control the fight. however, finding a better solution seems to be elusive.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 12:55:13 GMT
Our player agent system isn't very good. Why do you think it isn't very good? And what do you propose as a solution? Because the player agents are not accountable to anyone, and I don't have a better solution but we could at least keep the PAs from talking about their decision until it actually happens.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Mar 3, 2015 14:54:26 GMT
Why do you think it isn't very good? And what do you propose as a solution? well it isnt very good because people with stakes in the fight control the fight. however, finding a better solution seems to be elusive. Anyone who wants to sign a player does not take PA duties for that player, period. If you mean they might not sign a player to a team b/c it helps a rival or they sign a larger contract to a team to handicap them, then you just don't trust people. I just have different hats, personally. When I put on the PA hat, I'm no longer Walt the TWolves GM. I'm just Walt the PA for those players. Why would I or anyone else cheat? It's not like we're going to win $1,000,000 if we take a championship in this league. It's for fun!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 15:05:32 GMT
well it isnt very good because people with stakes in the fight control the fight. however, finding a better solution seems to be elusive. Anyone who wants to sign a player does not take PA duties for that player, period. If you mean they might not sign a player to a team b/c it helps a rival or they sign a larger contract to a team to handicap them, then you just don't trust people. I just have different hats, personally. When I put on the PA hat, I'm no longer Walt the TWolves GM. I'm just Walt the PA for those players. Why would I or anyone else cheat? It's not like we're going to win $1,000,000 if we take a championship in this league. It's for fun! I usually give people the benefit of the doubt and trust them, but have already been told that I do not have the same benefits here. No one trusts me, and I wouldn't be allowed on any committee because "I'd use it to my advantage". Anyone that actually knows me knows that I'm the most fair person you'll ever meet, but you guys don't think that. Why should I think that about you? Not you personally, Walt. I didn't even start this thread, and I don't really care about PA's, they probably do a good job (I don't know). Chris just asked what the issue with the system was, and I stated it. In any system where there WAS money or anything other than fun at stake, the system would have to look very different. So, there is in essence a problem with the system, but the stake is just low, so it isn't that big of a problem. As far as rotating player agents, I think it would be good, just because it would be FUN. I love stats and opitimization and making decisions and figuring out where things fit best. I'd have a good time on the RC, or TC or as a PA. Thats why I supported JR's original idea. It's not because I don't trust the PA's (though some people seem to have trust issues), it's just that I'd find it cool to be one!
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Post by Alex English on Mar 3, 2015 16:16:47 GMT
Rotating player agents/committee members wouldn't prevent corruption.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 16:20:35 GMT
Rotating player agents/committee members wouldn't prevent corruption. I agree. If anything, it would encourage a "now it's my turn" mindset, if the rotation was in place to reduce corruption. However, I think if the intent of rotating members was different, such as, people going on leave, or people wanting to help out, there is really no reason to not rotate members. Never the whole group at the same time, so that the new member could see how things work, and then it rotates. It could be fun!
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Post by Chris Mullin on Mar 3, 2015 17:25:21 GMT
I understand the concerns some people have because other GMs in the league act as Player Agents, but for a league like this I really don't know if there is a better solution out there. I can't see a scenario in which the PA's weren't current GM's though. IMO our system is the best system I've ever seen in a sim league like this.
Been in some leagues where they handle their OSFA like we handle In-season FA by just having GMs post their bids publicly. That system was awful.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 17:59:27 GMT
well it isnt very good because people with stakes in the fight control the fight. however, finding a better solution seems to be elusive. Anyone who wants to sign a player does not take PA duties for that player, period. If you mean they might not sign a player to a team b/c it helps a rival or they sign a larger contract to a team to handicap them, then you just don't trust people. I just have different hats, personally. When I put on the PA hat, I'm no longer Walt the TWolves GM. I'm just Walt the PA for those players. Why would I or anyone else cheat? It's not like we're going to win $1,000,000 if we take a championship in this league. It's for fun! It happened to JR and it's probably going to happen to me with Marc Gasol.
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Mar 3, 2015 18:46:51 GMT
Why would you lose Marc Gasol? You have one of the best cores to offer him and no front court competition.
The only reason I could see would be if he's offended you tried to tank but I doubt it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2015 21:04:51 GMT
Why would you lose Marc Gasol? You have one of the best cores to offer him and no front court competition. The only reason I could see would be if he's offended you tried to tank but I doubt it. I am not trying to tank! That's propaganda created by evil GMs to create friction between Marc Gasol and the Kings.
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Post by Ian Noble on Mar 3, 2015 21:16:44 GMT
Everything that Chris Mullin has said so far basically expresses my view on the subject.
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Post by Charles Barkley on Mar 3, 2015 21:24:30 GMT
Y'all just got some trust issues. Gotta work that shit out on you own time.
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