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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2015 12:34:38 GMT
I'll stick my oar in and say that I thought Dexter and Breaking Bad were both shit! And I managed to watch 3 seasons of Breaking Bad since everyone ranted about its awesomeness, but I didn't particularly enjoy any of it. The Wire, now there's a TV show for the ages. Drama tv is all contrived bullshit that's predictable as shit. Sports on the other hand at least has some volatility.
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Post by Blake Bowman on Mar 20, 2015 19:39:25 GMT
Workaholics > Dexter... Fact
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Post by Charles Barkley on Mar 20, 2015 21:21:24 GMT
Saw 4 seasons of Dexter, and I never really felt like continuing after that, and I've seen tons of terrible TV shows, but it is something I always felt like finishing.
Breaking Bad sucks for the first couple seasons, its really dry with dialogue and it is predictable in action. But when you make it through those episodes (the infamous "Fly" episode in particular) it is well worth the wait. I don't know why the writing changes but I can only describe Break Bad as like rolling a snowball down hill: slowly but surely it picks up snow, and more snow, and more snow and it becomes so big it gets out of control and crashes into the little town at the bottom of the hill.
Breaking Bad is a great TV show, but it isn't a great TV show till the last couple seasons. Where as the Wire is a great TV show from the first season to the last and leaves you wanting more, yelling at the TV screen with tears when one of your beloved corner boys dies.
I've stopped comparing the Wire to television shows because nothing will come close in what it did from season 1 to season 5 and the way in which it did it. Game of Thrones is a great TV show, but you don't get to fall in love with characters and True Detective Season 1 is probably one of the best standalone tv series since The Wire.
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Post by James Kay on Mar 20, 2015 21:29:58 GMT
Saw 4 seasons of Dexter, and I never really felt like continuing after that, and I've seen tons of terrible TV shows, but it is something I always felt like finishing. Breaking Bad sucks for the first couple seasons, its really dry with dialogue and it is predictable in action. But when you make it through those episodes (the infamous "Fly" episode in particular) it is well worth the wait. I don't know why the writing changes but I can only describe Break Bad as like rolling a snowball down hill: slowly but surely it picks up snow, and more snow, and more snow and it becomes so big it gets out of control and crashes into the little town at the bottom of the hill. Breaking Bad is a great TV show, but it isn't a great TV show till the last couple seasons. Where as the Wire is a great TV show from the first season to the last and leaves you wanting more, yelling at the TV screen with tears when one of your beloved corner boys dies. I've stopped comparing the Wire to television shows because nothing will come close in what it did from season 1 to season 5 and the way in which it did it. Game of Thrones is a great TV show, but you don't get to fall in love with characters and True Detective Season 1 is probably one of the best standalone tv series since The Wire. Cant believe you all don’t appreciate Breaking Bad… not to sound like an elitist, but maybe you didn’t get it? It’s not about being “unpredictable” like you guys keep talking about. Yeah its slow, but that’s what’s so great about it – you get to see Walt’s transformation. I thought it was very similar to a greek tragedy, his fate is sealed once he goes down that path, but the journey is what’s interesting. And Charles, “The Fly” episode was one of my favorites! Just showed how manic and neurotic Walt is and was symbolic of Walt’s perfectionism – he was trying to rid his lab of that fly to make it perfectly clean – just like he was trying to keep his home and family life clean but it kept getting dirty from his drug business dealings. The Wire is obviously fantastic as well. Just different types of shows. BB was more of an exploration in how literary tv can get and the surreal development of one character whereas the wire looked at much broader issues.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2015 21:31:33 GMT
Saw 4 seasons of Dexter, and I never really felt like continuing after that, and I've seen tons of terrible TV shows, but it is something I always felt like finishing. Breaking Bad sucks for the first couple seasons, its really dry with dialogue and it is predictable in action. But when you make it through those episodes (the infamous "Fly" episode in particular) it is well worth the wait. I don't know why the writing changes but I can only describe Break Bad as like rolling a snowball down hill: slowly but surely it picks up snow, and more snow, and more snow and it becomes so big it gets out of control and crashes into the little town at the bottom of the hill. Breaking Bad is a great TV show, but it isn't a great TV show till the last couple seasons. Where as the Wire is a great TV show from the first season to the last and leaves you wanting more, yelling at the TV screen with tears when one of your beloved corner boys dies. I've stopped comparing the Wire to television shows because nothing will come close in what it did from season 1 to season 5 and the way in which it did it. Game of Thrones is a great TV show, but you don't get to fall in love with characters and True Detective Season 1 is probably one of the best standalone tv series since The Wire. Yeah, I'm going to give Breaking bad a 78, and The Wire a 82. True Detective has a chance to be an all time great, but I'd like to see it prove it a little more first, 77 we can revisit it at the end of the season.
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Post by Charles Barkley on Mar 20, 2015 21:31:37 GMT
Ian Noble , Alex English , I felt Season 3 of House of Cards was awful in comparison to the previous 2. But I think it is because of where Frank is, at the top of the food chain compared to where he was. To me, the real cool shit that Frank did in seasons 1 and 2 was conniving and planning to take the throne. And I wanted him to do that to get AmWorks to pass, or to allow him to be on the ticket, but none of that really happens. And I also felt like in Season 3, it got A LOT more political than what it was, but maybe I just didn't notice it before. And I felt that the writers were trying to push their political ideologies onto the watchers in Season 3. It also does seem like he cares more about people and that leads to my point on him being less conniving and less ruthless. I was just expecting him to be this awesome ruler and he's getting bent over backwards by the Russians, the leadership, and his wife. And I fucking hate Robin Wright as Claire, I don't know why but when I see her on screen I just want to punch her. And it seemed like all she did season 3 was bitch to Frank.
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Post by Charles Barkley on Mar 20, 2015 21:41:19 GMT
Breaking Bad sucks for the first couple seasons, its really dry with dialogue and it is predictable in action. But when you make it through those episodes (the infamous "Fly" episode in particular) it is well worth the wait. I don't know why the writing changes but I can only describe Break Bad as like rolling a snowball down hill: slowly but surely it picks up snow, and more snow, and more snow and it becomes so big it gets out of control and crashes into the little town at the bottom of the hill. Cant believe you all don’t appreciate Breaking Bad… not to sound like an elitist, but maybe you didn’t get it? It’s not about being “unpredictable” like you guys keep talking about. Yeah its slow, but that’s what’s so great about it – you get to see Walt’s transformation. I thought it was very similar to a greek tragedy, his fate is sealed once he goes down that path, but the journey is what’s interesting. And Charles, “The Fly” episode was one of my favorites! Just showed how manic and neurotic Walt is and was symbolic of Walt’s perfectionism – he was trying to rid his lab of that fly to make it perfectly clean – just like he was trying to keep his home and family life clean but it kept getting dirty from his drug business dealings. The Wire is obviously fantastic as well. Just different types of shows. BB was more of an exploration in how literary tv can get and the surreal development of one character whereas the wire looked at much broader issues. I understand BB, and think the Greek tragedy thing is an awesome comparison to it. But when you talk to someone who hasn't seen all of BB, and ask them where they stopped, they all stopped at the beginning, before season 4 starts. So, after hearing most of my friends say that, I kept that in mind when I watched it thru for a second time on Netflix, and I understood why they stopped. Those first few seasons are dry compared to the last ones. I understood the some of the analogies in the Fly episode but a lot of that stuff, and not just in BB, but in a lot of TV shows, those things go over a lot of peoples heads because they aren't thinking about it in depth enough. Having an episode like the Fly episode, where everything happens in one place, like for example the main characters get trapped in an auditorium and can't get out, those episodes are in a lot of TV shows to cut costs on set production. I also don't understand how people don't like BB, but when I asked them, they all said they stopped the first few seasons in, so I went back and watched and realized that it is slow to develop and dry. And I never really put thought in to the Greek tragedy thing until you mentioned it but it does make a lot of sense and it would explain why those first couple of seasons are like that. IMO BB is a top 5 TV show
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Post by Ian Noble on Mar 20, 2015 23:50:23 GMT
...it got A LOT more political than what it was, but maybe I just didn't notice it before. And I felt that the writers were trying to push their political ideologies onto the watchers in Season 3. I felt that too. You probably already know I'm extremely cynical when it comes to politics. Based on my experience it's my opinion that modern mass media is mostly propaganda, and I feel like that stretches into TV shows also, even TV Shows as good as House of Cards. From my perspective there is a LOT of propaganda in Season 3 of House of Cards, and as soon as a TV show goes down that path I tend to lose interest... and that's what is happening right now. I'm at episode 10.
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Post by Juan Dixon on Mar 21, 2015 1:24:40 GMT
Hell, Ian, even sports are propaganda at this point.
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Post by Alex English on Mar 21, 2015 4:36:29 GMT
I think House of Cards needs that second perspective again like what they Barnes.
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Post by Charles Barkley on Mar 21, 2015 19:27:15 GMT
I think House of Cards needs that second perspective again like what they Barnes. I think their "B Plot" this season was the whole Doug thing, but it wasn't too great. I think they definitely missed on that point and would agree with you.
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Post by Ian Noble on Mar 21, 2015 20:03:07 GMT
Hell, Ian, even sports are propaganda at this point. edit: the irony that I spend most of my free time running a fantasy basketball league is not lost on me, haha.
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