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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2015 17:25:00 GMT
Tyreke Evans is always a triple double threat and a ball dominant guard/forward who has very good PG characteristics (he's been playing point since Jrue went out). He's averaging 16.8 PPG, 5.4 RPG, 6.1 APG, and a steal a game, which also bringing in half a block. His 3pt% has improved over last year (from 22% to 30%), while his FG% has remained the same. Tyreke is a beast, and the primary scorer (except AD of course) on the Pelicans. He plays hero ball in the 4th quarter, and has a high usage rate (26%) with the most minutes played on his team. Yay, verily, where Tyreke is on a healthy pelicans team where is doing what he is supposed to be doing, coming off the bench, his numbers look like this: 48% FG, 43% 3PT, 8 RPG, 4 APG, 20 PPG Everyone has been rating MKG around a 79-80 (recent rating change)... and he is averaging like 10-7 while having a terrible FG% too... Tyreke Evans is way more than 3-4 points better than MKG. Current rating: 83 Suggested rating: 85 The biggest difference I see from his real life usage and stats to his sim usage and stats is he doesn't take nearly enough shots in the sim. Teague will jack up 25 shots a game while Tyreke has 7-8. He hasn't had a game like that all year in real life, and it'd be good if his ratings could be adjusted in such a way that he saw a better usage rate closer to his real one of 13-14 shots her game.  |
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Feb 18, 2015 17:27:51 GMT
He only shoots 43% from the field with a 30% 3 point as you mentioned plus the advanced stats really hate him. He has great driving ability but everytime I watch him, including the celtics pelicans game i went to this season in which I saw him up close, he seems to stagnate the offense around him and his presense makes everything more crowded for others.
I think 82 is good.
edit: his PER is only 16.8, barely above average. He has a 49.4% true shooting percentage too indicating he is very inefficient.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2015 17:34:03 GMT
He only shoots 43% from the field with a 30% 3 point as you mentioned plus the advanced stats really hate him. He has great driving ability but everytime I watch him, including the celtics pelicans game i went to this season in which I saw him up close, he seems to stagnate the offense around him and his presense makes everything more crowded for others. I think 83 is perfect for him That was the game Jrue got hurt, and Tyreke had to play PG without any practice. They hadn't gameplanned for him efficiently. And yes, his fg% is kind of low, but he has increased his amount of 3 points taken, which effects it, he has elite finishing ability around the rim. His mid range game isn't the best though. When the Pelicans are healthy, Tyreke is an amazing player, and probably the best PG on the team, no offense to Jrue. "Stagnate the offense" is the wrong term to use, the offense runs different with him because he is a scorer first, but his passing ability is top notch, as evidenced by averaging 6 assists per game when only about a dozen of those has come from the point guard position. He didn't play too well this the starters that game, or many other games because his primary scoring area is in the paint, and with AD and Asik in there and dante cunningham the paint gets clogged with defenders, but when Tyreke comes off the bench when the team is fully healthy and plays with Ryan Anderson with proper floor spacing, he has ridiculous stat lines. Edited main post to include more tyreke stuff |
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Post by Allen Iverson on Feb 18, 2015 18:43:34 GMT
83. Not really great numbers as Brian put up. Still inefficient. If Klay is now at 85, then he's fine where he is. Maybe a decrease too, but I think I'll stay at 83.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2015 19:18:31 GMT
83. Not really great numbers as Brian put up. Still inefficient. If Klay is now at 85, then he's fine where he is. Maybe a decrease too, but I think I'll stay at 83. I think the reason that Klay wasn't rated higher than 85 was a lot of people didn't want to rate him at where is performing now which is around 90 because he hasn't done it for that long. Reke is been putting up number number similar to this for a long time but this year he's better so modest increase seems to be in order |
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Feb 18, 2015 19:36:44 GMT
81 - This thread may end up hurting you in the end.
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Post by Mike Krzyzewski on Feb 18, 2015 20:14:41 GMT
82
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Post by Walt Frazier on Feb 18, 2015 21:19:46 GMT
One warning is not to always get caught up with a players stats compared to his own stats from the year before. He may have improved his 3pt% but it's still below average.
Basically, you are basing your argument around a prior rating (this one is about 3 years old BTW) that may not be correct in the first place. You're building on a crumbling foundation.
I'd actually like to go in and adjust his ratings so I'm gonna vote for a small decrease. We can probably make him play more like himself even while decreasing him. We're good like that :-)
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2015 21:26:48 GMT
I'd actually like to go in and adjust his ratings so I'm gonna vote for a small decrease. We can probably make him play more like himself even while decreasing him. We're good like that :-) 82 to be honest this is my primary motivation |
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Post by Allen Iverson on Feb 18, 2015 21:27:20 GMT
To be fair he had a string of games this season where he set career highs in assists and tied it more than once too so I think his passing needs a major bump while lowering some stats you guys decide on. That's why I voted a "no change" at 83.
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Post by Charles Barkley on Feb 20, 2015 19:40:40 GMT
I think he is good where he stands. I love the guy, but think he is in his proper place right now.
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Post by Alex English on Feb 20, 2015 22:02:49 GMT
82, he's never been a very good shooter, but he does other things well.
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Post by Spike Lee on Feb 23, 2015 5:12:38 GMT
no change
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Post by Deleted on Feb 24, 2015 3:47:15 GMT
To be fair he had a string of games this season where he set career highs in assists and tied it more than once too so I think his passing needs a major bump while lowering some stats you guys decide on. That's why I voted a "no change" at 83. Just put up 12 assists again! This time vs the raptors, he was sick the entire game too! |
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Post by Kareem Abdul-Jabbar on Feb 25, 2015 20:06:51 GMT
82 ^^
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Post by Chris Mullin on Feb 26, 2015 16:29:47 GMT
83
Up his passing and lower his perimeter shooting
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Post by Sam Bowie on Feb 26, 2015 16:35:25 GMT
To be fair he had a string of games this season where he set career highs in assists and tied it more than once too so I think his passing needs a major bump while lowering some stats you guys decide on. That's why I voted a "no change" at 83. same |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2015 16:44:32 GMT
last 20 games
16 PPG - 8.3 APG - 5.1 RPG
9 games double digit assist
just miss ONE game in the whole season
season average 34.6 MPG
he is the 2nd Most Valued Player of Pelicans this season, no doubt.
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Feb 26, 2015 16:51:01 GMT
Ever heard of Anthony Davis?
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Post by Sam Bowie on Feb 26, 2015 16:59:42 GMT
Ever heard of Anthony Davis? If you are going to talk about former Raptors star Antonio Davis you should at least spell his name right.  |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2015 17:01:07 GMT
Ever heard of Anthony Davis? fixt |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 1:22:28 GMT
Tyreke has the 2nd most points in the league off drives after james harden  |
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Post by Charles Barkley on Feb 28, 2015 1:23:11 GMT
Tyreke has the 2nd most points in the league off drives after james harden TY Tim Legler |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 1:26:35 GMT
Tyreke has the 2nd most points in the league off drives after james harden TY Tim Legler White side and the pelicans this is like my favorite game of the year :-) Tyree and Quincy going to show him what they got |
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Post by Charles Barkley on Feb 28, 2015 2:33:45 GMT
That's actually Barry announcing my bad
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2015 3:26:33 GMT
quite a game reke 10 assists again when playing PG. thats where i want to play him in the sim |
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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2015 19:22:59 GMT
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Apr 28, 2015 19:35:32 GMT
Whats the point of this photo? Show everyone that hurt broken Westbrook is better than Tyreke?
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Post by Deleted on Apr 30, 2015 4:35:14 GMT
Whats the point of this photo? Show everyone that hurt broken Westbrook is better than Tyreke? yes... the difference in those stats is not a 13 point difference though, much closer to a 8-9 point difference. |
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