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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Feb 18, 2015 0:23:02 GMT
Pelicans trade: GSW 2015 1st
Jazz trade: Utah 2018 1st Utah 2015 2nd LAC 2017 2nd
I accept I already have too many picks this year especially after my trade with lakers and now I have to move back a few years but I also pick up some late 2nds.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2015 0:25:05 GMT
no reason to tank now, accept
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Post by Walt Frazier on Feb 18, 2015 2:40:41 GMT
I don't quite get this. Collins may want to compete but right now, the gsw 1st and Utah 2nd are not that far apart. I'm not sure Adam should be giving so much to only move up this far.
I'll look at it closer later, not at the computer now
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Feb 18, 2015 4:30:45 GMT
Its much fairer if that 2015 Utah 2nd will not be on the deal. IMO
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Post by Walt Frazier on Feb 18, 2015 4:46:04 GMT
Right now GSW 2015 1st is pick 28. UTH 2015 2nd is pick 40.
Now, of course, that's a difference, notable. But, you're not moving from 28 up to 3. The truth of the matter is any picks after 20-25 through around 40-45 have a similar chance of hitting in a normal draft. A 1st and another 2nd to move just 12 picks in this part of the draft seems a bit much to me.
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Feb 18, 2015 5:10:08 GMT
Well first of all that LAC 2nd will not be high at all, most likely in the 50s. Also those 12 spots are the difference in this last draft between a Gary Harris who is so valuable that the Nuggets made him untouchable or a Spencer Dinwiddie who the pistons don't even trust to be their backup PG. That's pretty significant, especially since players in the 40's rarely pan out while there are numerous examples of late 20's and 30's players such as jimmy butler, tony parker, Gilbert Arenas, Rashard Lewis, just off the top of my head.
Plus Utah has been rising up the standings so really their pick will be around 45 in all likelihood, and as you said yourself Walt 2nd rounders are less than a crapshoot in the NBA
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Post by Ian Noble on Feb 18, 2015 10:12:22 GMT
It's a bit of a weird trade but whatever, I accept.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Feb 18, 2015 12:45:33 GMT
I hope that Utah 2018 doesn't turn into anything too special.... But ok
Accept
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Post by Danny Longley on Feb 18, 2015 13:33:20 GMT
Not a big fan of this for Utah either, but don't think it's rejectable because it's so far off.
Accept.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2015 13:44:45 GMT
Another important difference between a high second and low first is the contract.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 18, 2015 16:51:24 GMT
Well first of all that LAC 2nd will not be high at all, most likely in the 50s. Also those 12 spots are the difference in this last draft between a Gary Harris who is so valuable that the Nuggets made him untouchable or a Spencer Dinwiddie who the pistons don't even trust to be their backup PG. That's pretty significant, especially since players in the 40's rarely pan out while there are numerous examples of late 20's and 30's players such as jimmy butler, tony parker, Gilbert Arenas, Rashard Lewis, just off the top of my head. Plus Utah has been rising up the standings so really their pick will be around 45 in all likelihood, and as you said yourself Walt 2nd rounders are less than a crapshoot in the NBA I understand the sentiments people have against this trade, and yes the value isn't exactly even, but current picks hold more value than future picks... and if my 2018 pick is not in the 20s I'll have killed myself by then, I imagine.
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Post by Bryan Colangelo on Feb 18, 2015 22:28:29 GMT
Accept
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Post by Ian Noble on Feb 19, 2015 17:23:21 GMT
Trade passed.
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