Alex Len

[Hanamichi Sakuragi]

Current: 69

Current Numbers 
TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS
6.1 0.4 0.5 1.6 0.9 3.1 6.2

As Starting C
7.5 pts 7.8 rebs 2.4 blks

My suggestion: 74

Increase his Blocking, FG, Physicals, DA

He is becoming a really good defensive center.

[Kevin Hollis]

72. Not a big enough sample size. Will adjust if he keeps it up.

[Deleted]

74

I don't see how anyone can think someone like Plumlee is better than him.

[Alex English]

73, he's better than 69 but he has a long way to go.

[Alex English]

Jan 24, 2015 21:21:20 GMT @riogho said:

74

I don't see how anyone can think someone like Plumlee is better than him.

I'm going to assume you're talking about Miles Plumlee.

[Deleted]

Less turnovers... more blocks... 25% better FT%?

I'll take that over 4 ppg any day.

And no, I mean Mason.

[Deleted]

22.6 4.1/6.9 .589 2.3/4.6 .495 0.0 6.7 0.9 0.8 1.0 10.4 1.6
20.4 2.6/4.6 .558 1.1/1.5 .731 0.0 6.1 0.4 0.5 1.6 6.2 1.0

The stats are almost exactly the same, and Len is like the 8th option on the Suns, and Plumlee is apparently "sixth man of the year".

[Alex English]

Jan 24, 2015 21:34:40 GMT @riogho said:

22.6 4.1/6.9 .589 2.3/4.6 .495 0.0 6.7 0.9 0.8 1.0 10.4 1.6
20.4 2.6/4.6 .558 1.1/1.5 .731 0.0 6.1 0.4 0.5 1.6 6.2 1.0

The stats are almost exactly the same, and Len is like the 8th option on the Suns, and Plumlee is apparently "sixth man of the year".

That doesn't tell the whole story. Plumlee had a poor start to the season and his percentages are down a lot from last year (65.9 FG% and 62.6 FT%).

Also look at their numbers as starters.

Plumlee (26 starts):
28.8 mpg, 14.1 ppg, 8.1 rpg, 1.1 apg, 1.2 bpg, 1.0 spg, 66.1 FG%, 54.1 FT%

Len (20 starts):
23.2 mpg, 7.5 ppg, 7.8 rpg, 0.5 apg, 2.4 bpg, 0.6 spg, 58.3 FG%, 68.6 FT%

Plumlee doing that for the whole season is worthy of an 80+ rating. I do think Len has more potential though. Plumlee has no mid range game and is a much worse shot blocker, but he has a much bigger sample size of his performance since Len looked like a bust last season. 

[Brian Scalabrine]

75

[Deleted]

Again, I literally see the about the same player (I rated them both a 74), with Plumlee shooting better and Len having monstrous blocking...

I don't think every starting C in the league that isn't god awful should be an 80. If you're starting for the first time,and you're showing promise, 70-75 is where you should be. At the end of the season, if Plumlee's and Len's stats still look like that and they are still starting 78ish. The same should go with Whiteside, or Speights. Dieng is producing about the same (actually better in %'s and rebounds), but looks so much more special, I can see giving him an extra point or two.

[Alex English]

Jan 24, 2015 22:06:40 GMT @riogho said:

Dieng is producing about the same (actually better in %'s and rebounds), but looks so much more special, I can see giving him an extra point or two.

Please expand.

[Deleted]

Jan 24, 2015 22:11:42 GMT Alex English said:

Jan 24, 2015 22:06:40 GMT @riogho said:

Dieng is producing about the same (actually better in %'s and rebounds), but looks so much more special, I can see giving him an extra point or two.

Please expand.

I like the cut of his jib.

[Alex English]

Jan 24, 2015 22:25:19 GMT @riogho said:

Jan 24, 2015 22:11:42 GMT Alex English said:

Please expand.

I like the cut of his jib.

Ah. I'll be sure to use that next time I make an argument for changing someone's rating.

[Deleted]

I mean the stats put people in a range, but then you can eye test +- 1-2 points... I just think dieng looks better. not a good argument for a huge discrepency, but for a point or two within the rotational player range, its good enough. its also why we vote and have multiple opinions.

[Kareem Abdul-Jabbar]

73 ^^

[Charles Barkley]

72

[Walt Frazier]

74

[Charles Barkley]

Really think he is overrated. I put him 1 point less than Nurkic, who I think is accurately rated and plays the same role and minutes. I'd rather have Nurkic than Len, thats way its 73 for Nurkic and 72 for Len.