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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2015 16:09:30 GMT
Current Rating: 92
Suggest Rating: 95+
Anthony Davis would be the MVP if the Pelicans were making the playoffs. And it isn't even possible to say he is the reason they are missing the playoffs.
Here is his stats per game FOR THE SEASON:
24.3 Points
10.4 Rebounds
3 Blocks
1.6 Assists
1.5 Steals
56% FG
82% FT
And he hasn't missed significant time like other 95+ rated players (KD, etc).
And the trump card:
His PER is currently 31.67 FOR THE SEASON. If it stays at this level, it will be tied for the 4th highest PER OF ALL TIME.
Behind only Wilt Chamberlain (twice), Michael Jordan (Once), and tied with Lebron James (Once) for 4th.
Anthony Davis is 21 years old.
I believe he should be the highest rated player, but am willing to baby step it there over the next year or two. But he should be a 95 right now. Easy.
So, my vote: 95.
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Post by Alex English on Jan 22, 2015 16:35:15 GMT
We just raised him to a 92. He's fine where he is for this season in my opinion. He's young and hasn't accomplished anything yet. You've even mentioned the biggest problem with raising his rating: Anthony Davis would be the MVP if the Pelicans were making the playoffs. The fact is though that the Pelicans aren't a playoff team, not yet at least. To give him a 95+ rating would imply he can pretty much singlehandedly make his team successful. But Davis hasn't shown that ability. We have to be cautious with increasing ratings. A player getting hot for a week or having a great highlight on ESPN doesn't warrant a rating increase. Player's need to show a sustained level of performance. In this case Davis needs to prove he truly is a franchise player. I'm sure most people agree he will get there eventually, but he isn't there yet. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2015 16:37:01 GMT
Having the 4th highest PER of all time by the half season mark is not "getting hot for a week" or "having a great highlight on ESPN".
Durant wouldn't take his team to the playoffs by himself in the West. Not without Westbrook and Ibaka. The Pelicans don't have anyone anywhere close to their level.
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Jan 22, 2015 16:43:15 GMT
I vote to keep him at 92 no need to be hasty
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Post by Alex English on Jan 22, 2015 16:46:21 GMT
Having the 4th highest PER of all time by the half season mark is not "getting hot for a week" or "having a great highlight on ESPN". Durant wouldn't take his team to the playoffs by himself in the West. Not without Westbrook and Ibaka. The Pelicans don't have anyone anywhere close to their level. I was speaking more in a general sense, not saying specifically that Davis has just gotten hot. But the Pelicans have a very good team. Omer Asik, Ryan Anderson, Tyreke Evans, Eric Gordon, and Jrue Holiday are all very good players, or at least they're supposed to be. If Davis is worthy of a 95+ rating then he shouldn't have a problem taking such a strong supporting cast to the playoffs. So why hasn't he? |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 22, 2015 17:26:44 GMT
Having the 4th highest PER of all time by the half season mark is not "getting hot for a week" or "having a great highlight on ESPN". Durant wouldn't take his team to the playoffs by himself in the West. Not without Westbrook and Ibaka. The Pelicans don't have anyone anywhere close to their level. I was speaking more in a general sense, not saying specifically that Davis has just gotten hot. But the Pelicans have a very good team. Omer Asik, Ryan Anderson, Tyreke Evans, Eric Gordon, and Jrue Holiday are all very good players, or at least they're supposed to be. If Davis is worthy of a 95+ rating then he shouldn't have a problem taking such a strong supporting cast to the playoffs. So why hasn't he? Honestly? Monty Williams. |
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Post by Charles Barkley on Jan 22, 2015 18:57:13 GMT
92
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jan 22, 2015 19:19:23 GMT
92, he was literally just raised last week.
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jan 22, 2015 19:21:32 GMT
Current Rating: 92 Suggest Rating: 95+ Anthony Davis would be the MVP if the Pelicans were making the playoffs. And it isn't even possible to say he is the reason they are missing the playoffs. Here is his stats per game FOR THE SEASON: 24.3 Points 10.4 Rebounds 3 Blocks 1.6 Assists 1.5 Steals 56% FG 82% FT And he hasn't missed significant time like other 95+ rated players (KD, etc). And the trump card: His PER is currently 31.67 FOR THE SEASON. If it stays at this level, it will be tied for the 4th highest PER OF ALL TIME. Behind only Wilt Chamberlain (twice), Michael Jordan (Once), and tied with Lebron James (Once) for 4th. Anthony Davis is 21 years old. I believe he should be the highest rated player, but am willing to baby step it there over the next year or two. But he should be a 95 right now. Easy. So, my vote: 95. You know who has stats like that? Big Boogie. 24.0 Points 12.7 Rebounds 1.7 Blocks 3.2 Assists 1.3 Steals 48% FG 80% FT |
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Post by Glenn Robinson on Jan 23, 2015 0:38:22 GMT
No need to raise him yet. He just got his bump. Let him play out the rest of the season and go from there.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2015 0:39:32 GMT
But if he has a historic PER by the end of the season... and the Pelicans miss the playoffs, he would still be worthy of 95+ right?
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Jan 23, 2015 1:00:31 GMT
Per isn't a catch all stat. Pelicans aren't very good defensively with him on the floor still we should take that into account
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Post by Deleted on Jan 30, 2015 21:30:10 GMT
Per isn't a catch all stat. Pelicans aren't very good defensively with him on the floor still we should take that into account  Back off my Anthony Davis. He's great defensively. The only bad thing about him is he still doesn't have a really great low post game offensively. Everything else he is great-exceptional at. |
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Post by Kareem Abdul-Jabbar on Feb 1, 2015 11:26:08 GMT
92 ^^
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Feb 1, 2015 17:08:08 GMT
I was speaking more in a general sense, not saying specifically that Davis has just gotten hot. But the Pelicans have a very good team. Omer Asik, Ryan Anderson, Tyreke Evans, Eric Gordon, and Jrue Holiday are all very good players, or at least they're supposed to be. If Davis is worthy of a 95+ rating then he shouldn't have a problem taking such a strong supporting cast to the playoffs. So why hasn't he? Honestly? Monty Williams. You make it seem like Davis has been in the league for years and years and hasn't gotten his team to the playoffs. IE Kevin Love or Boogie Cousins. |
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Post by Glenn Robinson on Jun 17, 2015 13:41:18 GMT
BUMP
End of season. Just want to get peoples opinions on if Davis should be raised a bit more going into the new season.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2015 15:47:56 GMT
We just raised him to a 92. He's fine where he is for this season in my opinion. He's young and hasn't accomplished anything yet. You've even mentioned the biggest problem with raising his rating: Anthony Davis would be the MVP if the Pelicans were making the playoffs. The fact is though that the Pelicans aren't a playoff team, not yet at least. To give him a 95+ rating would imply he can pretty much singlehandedly make his team successful. But Davis hasn't shown that ability. We have to be cautious with increasing ratings. A player getting hot for a week or having a great highlight on ESPN doesn't warrant a rating increase. Player's need to show a sustained level of performance. In this case Davis needs to prove he truly is a franchise player. I'm sure most people agree he will get there eventually, but he isn't there yet.  This is the shot that gave the Pelicans the tie breaker over OKC to make the playoffs. Also, his stats. |
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Post by Sam Bowie on Jun 17, 2015 16:01:29 GMT
I think he is fine where he is right now.
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Jun 17, 2015 16:39:51 GMT
Change to 94
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Post by Sam Bowie on Jun 17, 2015 16:51:15 GMT
So, you think he should be higher than Harden, Westbrook and Curry? I think he did not prove himself enough yet to go higher than those 3. Without a 3-pointer and a with a 94 overall, Davis would be almost as good as Lebron . |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 17, 2015 17:54:06 GMT
So, you think he should be higher than Harden, Westbrook and Curry? I think he did not prove himself enough yet to go higher than those 3. Without a 3-pointer and a with a 94 overall, Davis would be almost as good as Lebron .No he will be as good or better than lebron at 2PM, BPG, RPG and interior defense. which, btw the way, he is. Lebron: 25.3-7.4-6.0-1.6-.7 .488% .710% AD: 24.4-10.2-2.2-1.5-2.9 .535% .805% VA = Value Added is the estimated number of points a player adds to a team’s season total above what a "replacement player" (for instance, the 12th man on the roster) would produce. Value Added = ([Minutes * (PER - PRL)] / 67). PRL (Position Replacement Level) = 11.5 for power forwards, 11.0 for point guards, 10.6 for centers, 10.5 for shooting guards and small forwards. James Harden: 723.4 Anthony Davis: 710.6 Steph Curry: 665.2 ... ... Lebron James: 577.3 ... Samuel Dalembert: 0 Jordan Farmar: 0 ... Dante Exum: -130.3 |
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jun 18, 2015 12:02:10 GMT
Just can't justify him getting another raise yet.
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Jun 19, 2015 16:21:57 GMT
He's fine where he is.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jun 20, 2015 1:23:06 GMT
Leave him be for now, 92 is an amazing reading, he WILL get a higher rating but now is not the time.
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