Glenn Robinson
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Post by Glenn Robinson on Jan 5, 2015 0:30:58 GMT
Current Rating: 81
Suggested Rating: 84
Parsons continues to climb the ranks of top NBA small forwards. His scoring is up as well as his role with the Dallas Mavericks.
16ppg, 2.3apg, 5.1rpg
I think he is due a small increase based on his consistent trend upwards. If and when Dirk retires, his usage is only going to go up more.
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Post by James Kay on Jan 5, 2015 0:40:13 GMT
Current Rating: 81 Suggested Rating: 84 Parsons continues to climb the ranks of top NBA small forwards. His scoring is up as well as his role with the Dallas Mavericks. 16ppg, 2.3apg, 5.1rpg I think he is due a small increase based on his consistent trend upwards. If and when Dirk retires, his usage is only going to go up more. Definitely disagree. In fact, Parsons' scoring is down! He is scoring less and doing it on a worse FG%, although he has bumped up his 3P% by .8%. His FT% is also worse. Moreover, Parsons is is creating less - his assists are down to 2.3 from 4.0 and his AST% actually dropped from 17.3 to 10.2. Now I'm in no way arguing for a decrease, but I just can't see how an increase can be justified. |
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jan 5, 2015 0:41:50 GMT
"If and when Dirk retires"...didn't he just sign a 3 year extension this past offseason? No need to base any part of a rating for a veteran on something that could happen in 3 years? lol
Anyway, moving on from that little point
FG% is down about 1.5 from last year
3pt has stayed the same (OK, .8% up), and he's making more than last year in about 5 less minutes so that's good.
FT% is down a couple %
Assists are down a little
Everything else is about in line with last year considering he's playing about 5 less mpg comparatively. maybe he's even "improved" his blocks.
I like him, I would probably put him at an 82 now b/c while he's continued to do what we saw the last couple of years more or less, he's also let his FG% and FT% drop, and his passing has gone down. Enough so that they would affect his rating somewhat significantly.
If he was doing exactly what he did last year I'd probably give you the 84.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jan 5, 2015 0:42:47 GMT
Current Rating: 81 Suggested Rating: 84 Parsons continues to climb the ranks of top NBA small forwards. His scoring is up as well as his role with the Dallas Mavericks. 16ppg, 2.3apg, 5.1rpg I think he is due a small increase based on his consistent trend upwards. If and when Dirk retires, his usage is only going to go up more. Definitely disagree. In fact, Parsons' scoring is down! He is scoring less and doing it on a worse FG%, although he has bumped up his 3P% by .8%. His FT% is also worse. Moreover, Parsons is is creating less - his assists are down to 2.3 from 4.0 and his AST% actually dropped from 17.3 to 10.2. Now I'm in no way arguing for a decrease, but I just can't see how an increase can be justified. I only went in for a 1 point increase, have to keep in mind he's also playing 5 less mpg when analyzing the "scoring less" part of your statement, especially when it's only 0.6 per game less. |
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Jan 5, 2015 0:46:57 GMT
81 seems fine
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Glenn Robinson
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Post by Glenn Robinson on Jan 5, 2015 0:50:57 GMT
Current Rating: 81 Suggested Rating: 84 Parsons continues to climb the ranks of top NBA small forwards. His scoring is up as well as his role with the Dallas Mavericks. 16ppg, 2.3apg, 5.1rpg I think he is due a small increase based on his consistent trend upwards. If and when Dirk retires, his usage is only going to go up more. Definitely disagree. In fact, Parsons' scoring is down! He is scoring less and doing it on a worse FG%, although he has bumped up his 3P% by .8%. His FT% is also worse. Moreover, Parsons is is creating less - his assists are down to 2.3 from 4.0 and his AST% actually dropped from 17.3 to 10.2. Now I'm in no way arguing for a decrease, but I just can't see how an increase can be justified. In just about every category he's taking significantly more attempts, so of course his percentages are going to dip. He plays in a system that allows him to be a scoring option where he was asked to be more selfless in Houston. His scoring is down by .6 from last season. Not much of a dip. Assist percentage is down but again, he's being asked to create more for himself. You have to take into account the system he is playing in. |
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Post by James Kay on Jan 5, 2015 0:52:19 GMT
Definitely disagree. In fact, Parsons' scoring is down! He is scoring less and doing it on a worse FG%, although he has bumped up his 3P% by .8%. His FT% is also worse. Moreover, Parsons is is creating less - his assists are down to 2.3 from 4.0 and his AST% actually dropped from 17.3 to 10.2. Now I'm in no way arguing for a decrease, but I just can't see how an increase can be justified. I only went in for a 1 point increase, have to keep in mind he's also playing 5 less mpg when analyzing the "scoring less" part of your statement, especially when it's only 0.6 per game less. Understood, but comparing per36 minute stats, he only increased from 16 (15.9) to 17.5 - while getting less assists and shooting worse from the floor and the line. If you think that justifies a one point increase then fine.. either way this is pointless and shouldn't really be a discussion. |
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Post by James Kay on Jan 5, 2015 1:00:33 GMT
Definitely disagree. In fact, Parsons' scoring is down! He is scoring less and doing it on a worse FG%, although he has bumped up his 3P% by .8%. His FT% is also worse. Moreover, Parsons is is creating less - his assists are down to 2.3 from 4.0 and his AST% actually dropped from 17.3 to 10.2. Now I'm in no way arguing for a decrease, but I just can't see how an increase can be justified. In just about every category he's taking significantly more attempts, so of course his percentages are going to dip. He plays in a system that allows him to be a scoring option where he was asked to be more selfless in Houston. His scoring is down by .6 from last season. Not much of a dip. Assist percentage is down but again, he's being asked to create more for himself. You have to take into account the system he is playing in. I've definitely taken that into account. If I wasn't, it would seem that Parsons has regressed. Which is not what I'm saying. He just hasn't earned an increase. And I'm not really sure he's "creating for himself" at all. The Mavs have a great system and coach. Sportsvu shows that Parsons only creates 2.2 ppg off of pull-up shots and 4.1 off of drives. If I'm not mistaken (I very well may be) those are the only two ways to "create for yourself." He is doing it very efficiently though, I'll give him that. His pull-up shot eFG% is on par with Durant's. |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2015 3:02:53 GMT
88, I love Chandler Parsons!
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Post by James Kay on Jan 5, 2015 3:04:36 GMT
88, I love Chandler Parsons! ... |
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Post by Deleted on Jan 5, 2015 3:06:46 GMT
88, I love Chandler Parsons! ... Everyone is entitled to be a homer every now and then!  |
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Post by Charles Barkley on Jan 5, 2015 5:19:49 GMT
I don't think he needs an increase at the moment. But I could see the reasoning behind 1 point, but right now my vote is 81
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Jan 5, 2015 13:45:50 GMT
79-80
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Kevin Hollis
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jan 5, 2015 13:58:44 GMT
80
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jan 5, 2015 21:26:15 GMT
You fucked up. Where's the like? |
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jan 5, 2015 21:55:21 GMT
As for my basis, I will go with 83.
Bulk of this should be on FG and IS.
Dont increase the Reb. skills please.
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Post by Charles Barkley on Jan 6, 2015 22:50:48 GMT
As for my basis, I will go with 83. Bulk of this should be on FG and IS. Dont increase the Reb. skills please. What is IS? |
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jan 6, 2015 23:53:39 GMT
As for my basis, I will go with 83. Bulk of this should be on FG and IS. Dont increase the Reb. skills please. What is IS? I'm assuming Inside Scoring. But that's just an assumption. |
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Post by Walt Frazier on Feb 2, 2015 4:06:01 GMT
Notice of closing this thread. Make changes to your vote or get your vote in now!
Current stats are around 16pts / 5reb / 2ast / 0.3blk / 0.9stl on 46.1% FG, 72.9% FT and 37.4% from 3 taking 5.5 a game. He plays about 33mpg and is due to be an 82.
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Post by Kareem Abdul-Jabbar on Feb 2, 2015 7:36:08 GMT
81 ^^
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Post by Allen Iverson on Feb 2, 2015 12:44:05 GMT
Still at 81.
Numbers and %s are down, but if you look at it, Dallas is really a balanced team. No need to increase/decrease him at this point.
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Post by Spike Lee on Feb 2, 2015 17:36:22 GMT
my vote is to keep him where he is
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Post by Jeremiah Hill on Feb 2, 2015 23:30:44 GMT
I only went in for a 1 point increase, have to keep in mind he's also playing 5 less mpg when analyzing the "scoring less" part of your statement, especially when it's only 0.6 per game less. Understood, but comparing per36 minute stats, he only increased from 16 (15.9) to 17.5 - while getting less assists and shooting worse from the floor and the line. If you think that justifies a one point increase then fine.. either way this is pointless and shouldn't really be a discussion. PREACH |
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