Jeff Teague

[Andrei Kirilenko]

Current Rating: 81
Suggested Rating: 87

Seeing the Kyle Lowry thread got me thinking- Jeff Teague is very similar to Lowry. I know everyone on this forum are Raptors fanboys which is why Lowry is rated so highly, but the Hawks are the best team in the East, and Teague is the best player on the Hawks. He is dominant on both ends of the floor.

Teague Stats: 17.3 ppg, 7.0 apg, 2.7 rpg, 0.4 bpg, 1.7 spg, 48.2% fg
Lowry Stats: 20.7 ppg, 7.7 apg, 4.8 rpg, 0.2 bpg, 1.5 spg, 45.2% fg

However, if we extrapolate the stats to per 36 stats (Hawks run a Spurs offense/rotation system if no one watches, meaning Teague gets less shots and minutes than Lowry), we see that Teague is extremely close to Lowry:

Teague Stats: 19.9 ppg, 8.0 apg, 3.1 rpg, 0.4 bpg, 1.9 spg, 48.2% fg
Lowry Stats: 21.6 ppg, 8.0 apg, 5.0 rpg, 0.2 bpg, 1.6 spg, 45.2% fg


Lowry scores slightly more points and gets more rebounds, but Teague gets better defensive stats & is a much more efficient player. Personally, just from watching the two, I would rather have Teague on my team, but I know a lot of the Raptors fans are going to disagree. Either way, he clearly isn't an 81, and IMO should be rated very similarly to Lowry.

[Deleted]

88 because Skip Barber said so!

[Alex English]

My first instinct looking at this was that this is crazy. But after looking at it some more, maybe not. Jeff Teague has continuously improved since coming into the league and the Hawks are playing great basketball.

There are so many good point guards in the league it's crazy. There might be more than 10 guys who deserve 85+ ratings. Here are the top point guards in the league this season, can you pick out who is who and explain why some of their ratings are so different from each other?


Player 1: 23.1 ppg, 7.3 apg, 5.0 rpg, 2.1 spg, 0.2 bpg, 3.3 tpg, 49.2 FG%, 39.1 3P%, 92.0 FT%, Rating: 89 Stephen Curry

Player 2: 18.0 ppg, 6.1 apg, 3.2 rpg, 1.2 spg, 0.1 bpg, 2.2 tpg, 46.0 FG%, 43.7 3P%, 84.7 FT%, Rating: 84 Mike Conley

Player 3: 20.9 ppg, 5.3 apg, 3.1 rpg, 1.5 spg, 0.3 bpg, 2.1 tpg, 45.8 FG%, 35.2 3P%, 84.3 FT%, Rating: 85 Kyrie Irving

Player 4: 16.7 ppg, 4.0 apg, 3.6 rpg, 1.0 spg, 0.1 bpg, 2.1 tpg, 49.4 FG%, 35.9 3P%, 81.8 FT%, Rating: 84 Goran Dragic

Player 5: 21.7 ppg, 6.4 apg, 4.9 rpg, 1.4 spg, 0.2 bpg, 2.7 tpg, 45.6 FG%, 38.9 3P%, 87.3 FT%, Rating: 84 Damien Lilard

Player 6: 16.2 ppg, 5.2 apg, 1.7 rpg, 0.7 spg, 0.0 bpg, 2.6 tpg, 51.5 FG%, 62.1 3P%, 80.0 FT%, Rating: 86 Tony Parker

Player 7: 20.7 ppg, 7.7 apg, 4.8 rpg, 1.5 spg, 0.2 bpg, 2.3 tpg, 45.2 FG%, 34.9 3P%, 81.0 FT%, Rating: 82 Kyle Lowry

Player 8: 17.2 ppg, 4.8 apg, 3.0 rpg, 0.6 spg, 0.3 bpg, 3.3 tpg, 40.6 FG%, 26.4 3P%, 80.6 FT%, Rating: 93 Derrick Rose

Player 9: 17.9 ppg, 9.5 apg, 4.6 rpg, 2.0 spg, 0.3 bpg, 2.1 tpg, 47.7 FG%, 40.4 3P%, 88.2 FT%, Rating: 94 Chris Paul

Player 10: 17.2 ppg, 10.3 apg, 4.5 rpg, 2.0 spg, 0.6 bpg, 3.7 tpg, 45.8 FG%, 30.9 3P%, 76.0 FT%, Rating: 84 John Wall

Player 11: 17.3 ppg, 7.0 apg, 2.7 rpg, 1.7 spg, 0.4 bpg, 2.8 tpg, 48.2 FG%, 34.1 3P%, 87.1 FT%, Rating: 81 Jeff Teague

Player 12: 27.3 ppg, 7.1 apg, 5.5 rpg, 2.3 spg, 0.1 bpg, 3.8 tpg, 44.8 FG%, 27.9 3P%, 82.4 FT%, Rating: 90 Russell Westbrook

If you aren't sure who is who then highlight all the stats. There really isn't a 13 point discrepancy between those players like the ratings suggest.

Depending on who you ask, Jeff Teague might not even be a top 10 point guard in the league. But the position is so good and so deep right now that he probably still deserves an 85+ rating.

So I'll go for like an 85-86 for Teague.

[Walt Frazier]

Really is an amazing time for Point Guards right now. Wow. Some of those ratings probably need fixed up but your point stands Alex.

I'm going to go for an 85.5 right now. Maybe I need to see this level longer to go a little higher.

[Brian Scalabrine]

86

[Kevin Hollis]

I will say an 84.I feel Teague is a great player that fits his system well. Teague definitely has the system around him that has put him in a great place. Top notch PF and C along with the prototypical sharpshooter in Korver.

[Charles Barkley]

I think if he played more his FG% would drop down below Lowry's. Tony Parker is faulted for the system he is in, as is Duncan and Ginobli, so why shouldn't Teague.

84


Edit: I also think the big difference is that Lowry has had no one these past few weeks and has kept his team afloat. And is the best player on his team while the Hawks also have Millsap and Horford, and I may HATE Millsap, the dude can play and Horford has been alright. Teague has a lot more help than Lowry does.

[Hanamichi Sakuragi]

Jan 4, 2015 16:00:06 GMT Alex English said:

My first instinct looking at this was that this is crazy. But after looking at it some more, maybe not. Jeff Teague has continuously improved since coming into the league and the Hawks are playing great basketball.

There are so many good point guards in the league it's crazy. There might be more than 10 guys who deserve 85+ ratings. Here are the top point guards in the league this season, can you pick out who is who and explain why some of their ratings are so different from each other?


Player 1: 23.1 ppg, 7.3 apg, 5.0 rpg, 2.1 spg, 0.2 bpg, 3.3 tpg, 49.2 FG%, 39.1 3P%, 92.0 FT%, Rating: 89 Stephen Curry

Player 2: 18.0 ppg, 6.1 apg, 3.2 rpg, 1.2 spg, 0.1 bpg, 2.2 tpg, 46.0 FG%, 43.7 3P%, 84.7 FT%, Rating: 84 Mike Conley

Player 3: 20.9 ppg, 5.3 apg, 3.1 rpg, 1.5 spg, 0.3 bpg, 2.1 tpg, 45.8 FG%, 35.2 3P%, 84.3 FT%, Rating: 85 Kyrie Irving

Player 4: 16.7 ppg, 4.0 apg, 3.6 rpg, 1.0 spg, 0.1 bpg, 2.1 tpg, 49.4 FG%, 35.9 3P%, 81.8 FT%, Rating: 84 Goran Dragic

Player 5: 21.7 ppg, 6.4 apg, 4.9 rpg, 1.4 spg, 0.2 bpg, 2.7 tpg, 45.6 FG%, 38.9 3P%, 87.3 FT%, Rating: 84 Damien Lilard

Player 6: 16.2 ppg, 5.2 apg, 1.7 rpg, 0.7 spg, 0.0 bpg, 2.6 tpg, 51.5 FG%, 62.1 3P%, 80.0 FT%, Rating: 86 Tony Parker

Player 7: 20.7 ppg, 7.7 apg, 4.8 rpg, 1.5 spg, 0.2 bpg, 2.3 tpg, 45.2 FG%, 34.9 3P%, 81.0 FT%, Rating: 82 Kyle Lowry

Player 8: 17.2 ppg, 4.8 apg, 3.0 rpg, 0.6 spg, 0.3 bpg, 3.3 tpg, 40.6 FG%, 26.4 3P%, 80.6 FT%, Rating: 93 Derrick Rose

Player 9: 17.9 ppg, 9.5 apg, 4.6 rpg, 2.0 spg, 0.3 bpg, 2.1 tpg, 47.7 FG%, 40.4 3P%, 88.2 FT%, Rating: 94 Chris Paul

Player 10: 17.2 ppg, 10.3 apg, 4.5 rpg, 2.0 spg, 0.6 bpg, 3.7 tpg, 45.8 FG%, 30.9 3P%, 76.0 FT%, Rating: 84 John Wall

Player 11: 17.3 ppg, 7.0 apg, 2.7 rpg, 1.7 spg, 0.4 bpg, 2.8 tpg, 48.2 FG%, 34.1 3P%, 87.1 FT%, Rating: 81 Jeff Teague

Player 12: 27.3 ppg, 7.1 apg, 5.5 rpg, 2.3 spg, 0.1 bpg, 3.8 tpg, 44.8 FG%, 27.9 3P%, 82.4 FT%, Rating: 90 Russell Westbrook

If you aren't sure who is who then highlight all the stats. There really isn't a 13 point discrepancy between those players like the ratings suggest.

Depending on who you ask, Jeff Teague might not even be a top 10 point guard in the league. But the position is so good and so deep right now that he probably still deserves an 85+ rating.

So I'll go for like an 85-86 for Teague.

Now, we need to give those PGs the raise that they deserve hehe

[Andrei Kirilenko]

87, 88, 85.5, 85.5, 86, 84, 84

Avg = 85.6

[Hanamichi Sakuragi]

By looking on those numbers and knowing that they are playing a great system, I will go with 84.

[Deleted]

Jan 7, 2015 22:02:33 GMT Hanamichi Sakuragi said:

By looking on those numbers and knowing that they are playing a great system, I will go with 84.

He's playing the "Tony Parker role" and I feel like I never gave Parker the recognition he deserves. I will not, however, make the same mistake with Teague.

[Andrei Kirilenko]

Teague is THE TRUTH. Dude has been straight balling this year

[Charles Barkley]

By my count 8 votes, can we please get 2 more

[Kareem Abdul-Jabbar]

87 ^^

[Deleted]

84

[Deleted]

88 Teague is the best PG in the east not named John Wall

[John Stockton]

87

[Walt Frazier]

Notice of closing this thread. Make changes to your vote or get your vote in now!

Current stats are around 17pts / 3reb / 7.5ast / 1.7stl / 0.4blk on 47% FG, 86.6% FT and 33.1% from 3 taking 3 a game there. Plays about 31 mpg, due to be an 86.

[Spike Lee]

definitely like the lowry/teague comparison. the player on the best team in the league. 88 for me