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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Dec 31, 2014 4:00:30 GMT
I search for his own thread but I did not find one so may I create this He really lights up in the first few weeks and it seems he is cooling down but he still shows great improvement with his game. TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS PER USG 3.1 2.2 0.9 0.5 1.7 2.9 18.4 14.3 22.6 13-14 season 3.6 3.3 1.3 0.9 2.1 1.6 21.3 19.8 26.6 14-15 season 13-14 D5 Per 36 12.955 pts 3 rebs .432 asts .428 3FG% Again, those numbers tells a lot already. What impress me a lot is that he improves in asts of 1.1. And of course, his scoring improvement. but WS has decrease by half and his defense is being praise by a lot of experts. So I am going with 86. Bulk of the increase should be on FG and Passing then BLK and Physical. I suggest that the 3PT will not be increase because his D5 numbers is very impressive already.
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Post by Charles Barkley on Dec 31, 2014 4:03:07 GMT
I search for his own thread but I did not find one so may I create this He really lights up in the first few weeks and it seems he is cooling down but he still shows great improvement with his game. TRB AST STL BLK TOV PF PTS PER USG 13-14 3.1 2.2 0.9 0.5 1.7 2.9 18.4 14.3 22.6 14-15 3.6 3.3 1.3 0.9 2.1 1.6 21.3 19.8 26.6 13-14 D5 Per 36 12.955 pts 3 rebs .432 asts .428 3FG% Again, those numbers tells a lot already. What impress me a lot is that he improves in asts of 1.1. And of course, his scoring improvement. but WS has decrease by half and his defense is being praise by a lot of experts. So I am going with 85. Bulk of the increase should be on FG and Passing then BLK and Physical. I suggest that the 3PT will not be increase because his D5 numbers is very impressive already. How many minutes per game did he average in D5? Your numbers for RL have to be off, or the header is just wrong. There;s no way he averaged 2.9 PPG last season.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Dec 31, 2014 4:29:16 GMT
He's not making a column for the year, his total rebounds are not 13-14 or 14-15 either :-p
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Dec 31, 2014 4:43:01 GMT
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Post by Brian Scalabrine on Dec 31, 2014 4:59:27 GMT
A terrific player on both ends and a really really good shooter. I think he has a better track record than Jimmy Butler but if Jimmy keeps it up Ill rate them the same. 85
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Post by Walt Frazier on Dec 31, 2014 5:20:20 GMT
Guess I should also put in a rating lol. I kinda like 85 right now for Klay...tempted to go 86 though.
Yea. 86.
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Post by Charles Barkley on Dec 31, 2014 8:32:28 GMT
84
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Post by Chris Mullin on Dec 31, 2014 8:40:43 GMT
Thompson's numbers in D5 are low because he came off the bench majority of the season last year.
I'm obviously biased, but I believe Thompson has really taken a step forward and I think he is a big reason why the Warriors are 25-5 and have the best record in the NBA right now. Klay is shooting career highs in FG%, 3PT%, and is only .3% points off of a career best from the FT line as well. He is also averaging career highs in almost every major stat category despite playing a few less minutes every night this season. He has also taken a really big step forward defensively too, averaging a career high in steals and blocks which again I believe contributes a lot to the Warriors real life success.
I'd say he deserves an 85
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Post by Kevin Hollis on Jan 2, 2015 17:22:26 GMT
I agree with Charles on an 84. He is still very young and is improving every game.
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Post by Andrei Kirilenko on Jan 2, 2015 17:42:29 GMT
83
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Post by Kareem Abdul-Jabbar on Jan 20, 2015 1:11:56 GMT
85 ^^
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Post by Deleted on Jan 20, 2015 2:32:39 GMT
85 as well, he is a great guard. Making all the shots, and plays fantastic defense on the outside. Tony Allen better watch out... this kid can guard the perimeter.
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Post by Hanamichi Sakuragi on Jan 25, 2015 23:44:33 GMT
Increase my vote above. Scoring 37 points in a quarter showed that he is only one of the few players that can enter the Zone haha
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Post by Alex English on Jan 26, 2015 0:05:35 GMT
I'll go like 83-84.
He's a top 3 three point shooter in the league along with Korver and Curry, but he doesn't do much else. His offense also mostly consists of catch and shoot threes and threatening those shots to draw the defense and driving to the rim. It's Curry and the Warriors that set him up with 65% of Klay's makes being assisted. If Golden State gave him the ball and said 'go get us buckets' I don't think Klay would perform well.
His shooting categories should go through the roof, but he doesn't do enough other things to deserve an 85+ rating.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Jan 26, 2015 1:22:10 GMT
I'll go like 83-84. He's a top 3 three point shooter in the league along with Korver and Curry, but he doesn't do much else. His offense also mostly consists of catch and shoot threes and threatening those shots to draw the defense and driving to the rim. It's Curry and the Warriors that set him up with 65% of Klay's makes being assisted. If Golden State gave him the ball and said 'go get us buckets' I don't think Klay would perform well. His shooting categories should go through the roof, but he doesn't do enough other things to deserve an 85+ rating. I dunno...that old 1.3 steals and 1.0 blocks per game sure looks great as hell too. 3 assists is nothing to sneeze at. It's not amazing, but he has some passing skill to account for. Rebounding isn't his thing but they also don't really ask him to do that at all. I just kinda had to call you on "doesn't do much else" when he gets over a block and over a steal per game, not to be ignored.
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Post by Chris Mullin on Jan 26, 2015 15:56:06 GMT
Klay Thompson has become one of the best wing defenders in the NBA. That is not just my opinion, watch the Warriors play a game and listen to analysts talk about him and his defensive ability. Here is just 1 brief example, but his defense on a "94" rated Chris Paul in the clip is pretty impressive IMO. Clip is from last season, but you get the point.
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Post by Chris Mullin on Jan 26, 2015 16:14:06 GMT
Yes Klay does score most of his baskets from coming off of screens and catching & shooting, but he has taken a big step forward this year with his ability to put the ball on the floor and score via pull ups and getting to the rim. I also don't see why he should get penalized because he can get to the rim a little easier because teams have to rush out to guard him on the perimeter because of his shooting ability.
I guess Reggie Miller would never have been rated over an 85 in this league because his % of shots assisted is higher than Thompson's. Thompson does have a career mark of .634% of his baskets being assisted, but this season his numbers have dropped to .490% in that category which speaks to the improvement in his offensive game I mentioned
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Post by Chris Mullin on Jan 26, 2015 16:36:25 GMT
My last comparison to illustrate Thompson's productivity.
DeMar DeRozan Current Rating: 84
Mpg: 32.9 - PPG: 18.1 - RPG: 3.9 - APG: 2.5 - SPG: 1.3 - BPG: 0.1 - FG%: .401 - FT%: .799 - 3FG% - .241 - PER: 15.4
Klay Thompson Current Rating: 80
Mpg: 32.3 - PPG: 22.8 - RPG: 3.5 - APG: 3.0 - SPG: 1.3 - BPG: 1.0 - FG%: .481 - FT%: .864 - 3FG% - .458 - PER: 22.9
IMO Thompson should be rated a couple of points higher than Derozan who the league voted to raise to an 84 based on his performance from last year. Also FYI Thompson's current PER this season of 22.9 is higher than Paul George's PER of 20.1 which got him rated an 88 by the league. Now granted George's PER rating is based on 80 games where as Thompson's is only half the season so far so it could fluctuate some, but I think you get the point.
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Post by James Kay on Jan 26, 2015 16:41:36 GMT
I really don’t even like Klay. Something about his face looking like a wii-character really just pisses me off. But the kid is playing out of his mind. 23 points on 48FG%, 463P%, 61TS%, with a 23 PER. A lot of it is most likely the result of playing next to Steph Curry and the great new Warriors system with Kerr. But even accounting for that, his defensive ability in combination with his incredibly efficient shooting should earn him a very solid rating. The 3 point shot is the future of the NBA, and the Splash Bros are leading the charge. 86.
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Post by Chris Mullin on Jan 30, 2015 17:35:48 GMT
Klay is averaging 28.7 ppg on .532% FG and .505% shooting from 3 over the Warriors past 11 games. He is really playing at a high level right now, much deserving his bump in rating from 80. He is also top 10 in the league in PER
1. Anthony Davis-NOP 31.9 2. James Harden-HOU 27.7 3. Russell Westbrook-OKC 27.6 4. Stephen Curry-GSW 27.0 5. LeBron James-CLE 26.2 6. DeMarcus Cousins-SAC 25.2 7. Chris Paul-LAC 24.8 8. LaMarcus Aldridge-POR 23.0 9. Klay Thompson-GSW 22.7 10. Blake Griffin-LAC 22.7
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Post by Allen Iverson on Jan 31, 2015 21:24:10 GMT
85. Incredible shooting %s plus improved defense earns him a solid boost in rating.
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Post by Charles Barkley on Jan 31, 2015 22:43:28 GMT
Klay is averaging 28.7 ppg on .532% FG and .505% shooting from 3 over the Warriors past 11 games. He is really playing at a high level right now, much deserving his bump in rating from 80. He is also top 10 in the league in PER 1. Anthony Davis-NOP 31.9 2. James Harden-HOU 27.7 3. Russell Westbrook-OKC 27.6 4. Stephen Curry-GSW 27.0 5. LeBron James-CLE 26.2 6. DeMarcus Cousins-SAC 25.2 7. Chris Paul-LAC 24.8 8. LaMarcus Aldridge-POR 23.0 9. Klay Thompson-GSW 22.7 10. Blake Griffin-LAC 22.7 I wish we had something like hot streaks or cold streaks in game, similar to how a player's form effects a player's rating in FIFA. If so, the past 11 games would count for more, for me at least, but I don't like to give more weight to certain games. Similarly to how I don't like to let the play-offs decide the ratings. Those past 11 games could have just been good matchups, as a playoff series can be. Not saying that they were good matchups, just in general, that's why I don't weight any specific performance or performances more so than any others. I also don't like PER.
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Post by Walt Frazier on Feb 2, 2015 4:11:57 GMT
Notice of closing this thread. Make changes to your vote or get your vote in now!
Current stats are around 23pts / 4reb / 3ast / 1.2stl / 0.9blk on 48.3% FG, 86.1% FT, and 44.8% from 3 taking 7 a game there. Plays 32.5mpg. Due to be an 85.
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